Dosser 52 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 rspca ,coppers all a set of do gooding wank#rs not worth your tax money screw them all good for nothing Whats the alternative mate? The alternative is an animal welfare organisation who arent influenced by political agendas and who listen to genuine wildlife issues, given by people who arent sentimental fools. IMHO Think you maybe living in the wrong country mate,the English are renowned for there love of animals over humans! yep, i class meself as one of them (animal lover) but the tree huggers get on me wick, totaly unrealistic. youre right i am in the wrong country, i should be led on a beach with a bond girl stroking me forehead. atb Doss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 rspca ,coppers all a set of do gooding wank#rs not worth your tax money screw them all good for nothing Whats the alternative mate? The alternative is an animal welfare organisation who arent influenced by political agendas and who listen to genuine wildlife issues, given by people who arent sentimental fools. IMHO Think you maybe living in the wrong country mate,the English are renowned for there love of animals over humans! And the Welsh aren't reknown for their love of animals?! Well "love" of a different kind eh? Swampy beastyning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferret15 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 the R.S.P.C.A are them selves undergoing a investigation for the slaughtering of ten German Shepard's.as has already been said its about money The Self Help Group for Farmers, Pet Owners and Others Experiencing Difficulties with the RSPCA (The SHG) Press Release For Immediate Release 30th October 2009 Police Confirm they are Investigating the RSPCA for Animal Cruelty Following many complaints to the Chief Constable, South Wales Police have confirmed that they are investigating the RSPCA and its inspectors in relation to ten acts of alleged cruelty to German Shepherd dogs, and other welfare offences. It has not been confirmed whether any RSPCA employees have been suspended pending the results of the police investigation into their activities. Jayne Shenstone from German Shepherd Rescue added: “German Shepherd Rescue is pleased that its complaint against the RSPCA is being investigated by South Wales Police. These ten poor German Shepherd dogs were treated disgracefully by the RSPCA and its employees.†“The dogs were grabbed one by one with a grasper, shot in the head with a captive bolt and then left to die.†“The RSPCA is a member of The World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA) and the International Companion Animal Management Coalition (ICAM) who specifically condemn any use of a captive bolt by anyone on dogs of any type “The RSPCA has claimed it’s the only time they have heard of such a weapon being used like this, but captive bolts are routinely issued to inspectors.†“We look forward to an early confirmation that South Wales Police will proceed to PACE interviews. We believe that serious offences have been committed, and that they merit charges for both the RSPCA and the officers responsible.†Anne Kasica from the SHG said: “It appears that South Wales Police are treating this in a professional an objective manner. We look forward to the outcome of their investigations and interviews with the RSPCA. “We would comment that the RSPCA have recently been charging even more people – especially the young, sick and the old with new offences under the Animal Welfare Act (AWA). The RSPCA spent huge sums lobbying for the AWA, which criminalises any failure to meet animals’ needs.†“In comparison to the RSPCA’s treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows ‘psychological and ethological needs’ following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse.†“Should the RSPCA be convicted of a criminal offence of cruelty to the animals then it would clearly place their position as a prosecuting authority for this specific type of offence in question.†Ends Word Total: 402 Notes to Editors: - Inspctor Mark Hobrough of South Wales police can be contacted on 01656 655555 Chief Constable of South Wales police Dr. Barbara Wilding cab be contacted by e-mail: acpo.staff.office@south-wales.pnn.police.uk For further comment please contact: Jayne Shenstone spokeswoman for German Shepherd Rescue on 01568 797957 Or from the SHG: Anne Kasica on 01559 371031 Ernest Vine on 01559 370566 Mobile 07534 056639. e-mail: shg@the-shg.org The SHG was officially formed in June 1990 and has been helping people to defend themselves and their animals from the RSPCA ever since. The national help line number is 0844 700 66 90 A copy of this and previous press releases from The SHG are online at http://www.the-shg.org/SHGPressReleases.htm'>http://www.the-shg.org/SHGPressReleases.htm Background information on the Self Help Group for Farmers Pet Owners and Other Experiencing Difficulties with the RSPCA can be found at http://www.the-shg.org Details of further criticisms of the RSPCA can be found at the RSPCA-Animadversion website: http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion References Farmer fined for failing to meet 'psychological needs' of cow Telegraph.co.uk - Oct 14, 2009 Carol English, prosecuting, said: "He said the cattle were fine and he always kept them this way. He wouldn't keep the doors open as it was too cold. ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/agr...ds-of-cow.html or http://tinyurl.com/ykay43y BBC NEWS/UK/Wales/South West Wales/Row as dogs put down by ... 31 Aug 2009 ... eight RSPCA officers, a decision was made that the most humane form of euthanasia would be to use a captive bolt, said the spokesman. ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/8230378.stm RSPCA puts down 10 German Shepherds with bolt gun - Telegraph 31 Aug 2009 ... An organisation which re-homes German Shepherd dogs has condemned the ... The RSPCA said relatives of the owner, who lived at Pontardawe, ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-bolt-gun.html or http://tinyurl.com/yl3au9q RSPCA in bolt gun anger A furious Jayne Shenstone of German Shepherd Rescue told us: 'There is a large .... to 10 German Shepherd dogs at an address in Pontardawe, in South Wales. ... http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/News/2009/S...0909/rspca.htm The Self Help Group for Farmers, Pet Owners and Others ... captive bolt pistols then they should make it quite clear ... A copy of this and previous press releases from The SHG are online ... http://the-shg.org/30%20August%202009.pdf'>http://the-shg.org/30%20August%202009.pdf International Companion Animal Management Coalition http://www.icam-coalition.org/resources.html World Society for the Protection of Animals http://www.wspa.org.uk/ __________________ Fenris RSPCA-Animadversion http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion/ SHG http://the-shg.org RSPCA Injustice Blog http://www.rspcainjustice.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
labsnlurchers 39 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 the R.S.P.C.A are them selves undergoing a investigation for the slaughtering of ten German Shepard's.as has already been said its about money The Self Help Group for Farmers, Pet Owners and Others Experiencing Difficulties with the RSPCA (The SHG) Press Release For Immediate Release 30th October 2009 Police Confirm they are Investigating the RSPCA for Animal Cruelty Following many complaints to the Chief Constable, South Wales Police have confirmed that they are investigating the RSPCA and its inspectors in relation to ten acts of alleged cruelty to German Shepherd dogs, and other welfare offences. It has not been confirmed whether any RSPCA employees have been suspended pending the results of the police investigation into their activities. Jayne Shenstone from German Shepherd Rescue added: “German Shepherd Rescue is pleased that its complaint against the RSPCA is being investigated by South Wales Police. These ten poor German Shepherd dogs were treated disgracefully by the RSPCA and its employees.†“The dogs were grabbed one by one with a grasper, shot in the head with a captive bolt and then left to die.†“The RSPCA is a member of The World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA) and the International Companion Animal Management Coalition (ICAM) who specifically condemn any use of a captive bolt by anyone on dogs of any type “The RSPCA has claimed it’s the only time they have heard of such a weapon being used like this, but captive bolts are routinely issued to inspectors.†“We look forward to an early confirmation that South Wales Police will proceed to PACE interviews. We believe that serious offences have been committed, and that they merit charges for both the RSPCA and the officers responsible.†Anne Kasica from the SHG said: “It appears that South Wales Police are treating this in a professional an objective manner. We look forward to the outcome of their investigations and interviews with the RSPCA. “We would comment that the RSPCA have recently been charging even more people – especially the young, sick and the old with new offences under the Animal Welfare Act (AWA). The RSPCA spent huge sums lobbying for the AWA, which criminalises any failure to meet animals’ needs.†“In comparison to the RSPCA’s treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows ‘psychological and ethological needs’ following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse.†“Should the RSPCA be convicted of a criminal offence of cruelty to the animals then it would clearly place their position as a prosecuting authority for this specific type of offence in question.†Ends Word Total: 402 Notes to Editors: - Inspctor Mark Hobrough of South Wales police can be contacted on 01656 655555 Chief Constable of South Wales police Dr. Barbara Wilding cab be contacted by e-mail: acpo.staff.office@south-wales.pnn.police.uk For further comment please contact: Jayne Shenstone spokeswoman for German Shepherd Rescue on 01568 797957 Or from the SHG: Anne Kasica on 01559 371031 Ernest Vine on 01559 370566 Mobile 07534 056639. e-mail: shg@the-shg.org The SHG was officially formed in June 1990 and has been helping people to defend themselves and their animals from the RSPCA ever since. The national help line number is 0844 700 66 90 A copy of this and previous press releases from The SHG are online at http://www.the-shg.org/SHGPressReleases.htm'>http://www.the-shg.org/SHGPressReleases.htm Background information on the Self Help Group for Farmers Pet Owners and Other Experiencing Difficulties with the RSPCA can be found at http://www.the-shg.org Details of further criticisms of the RSPCA can be found at the RSPCA-Animadversion website: http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion References Farmer fined for failing to meet 'psychological needs' of cow Telegraph.co.uk - Oct 14, 2009 Carol English, prosecuting, said: "He said the cattle were fine and he always kept them this way. He wouldn't keep the doors open as it was too cold. ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/agr...ds-of-cow.html or http://tinyurl.com/ykay43y BBC NEWS/UK/Wales/South West Wales/Row as dogs put down by ... 31 Aug 2009 ... eight RSPCA officers, a decision was made that the most humane form of euthanasia would be to use a captive bolt, said the spokesman. ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/8230378.stm RSPCA puts down 10 German Shepherds with bolt gun - Telegraph 31 Aug 2009 ... An organisation which re-homes German Shepherd dogs has condemned the ... The RSPCA said relatives of the owner, who lived at Pontardawe, ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-bolt-gun.html or http://tinyurl.com/yl3au9q RSPCA in bolt gun anger A furious Jayne Shenstone of German Shepherd Rescue told us: 'There is a large .... to 10 German Shepherd dogs at an address in Pontardawe, in South Wales. ... http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/News/2009/S...0909/rspca.htm The Self Help Group for Farmers, Pet Owners and Others ... captive bolt pistols then they should make it quite clear ... A copy of this and previous press releases from The SHG are online ... http://the-shg.org/30%20August%202009.pdf'>http://the-shg.org/30%20August%202009.pdf International Companion Animal Management Coalition http://www.icam-coalition.org/resources.html World Society for the Protection of Animals http://www.wspa.org.uk/ __________________ Fenris RSPCA-Animadversion http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion/ SHG http://the-shg.org RSPCA Injustice Blog http://www.rspcainjustice.blogspot.com/ This link should be pinned if it isn't already http://www.the-shg.org/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 The RSPCA will need concrete evidence to secure a conviction here. Yes the dogs died whilst in the police mans vehicle, but once this case gets going there will be alot of loop holes that will open and be closed! Lets wait and see eh.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferret15 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 “In comparison to the RSPCA’s treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows ‘psychological and ethological needs’ following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse.†it could well be that the law they thought so hard to bring in might just come back and bite them in the Arse. i for one hope so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 credit for what....doing their fecking jobs,theyre still a bunch o c**ts Spot on our kid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLEESNIPER 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 rspca ,coppers all a set of do gooding wank#rs not worth your tax money screw them all good for nothing Whats the alternative mate? The alternative is an animal welfare organisation who arent influenced by political agendas and who listen to genuine wildlife issues, given by people who arent sentimental fools. IMHO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R. Docks 154 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 “In comparison to the RSPCA’s treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows ‘psychological and ethological needs’ following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse.†it could well be that the law they thought so hard to bring in might just come back and bite them in the Arse. i for one hope so. That story is being quoted out of context. The farmer in question was keeping cattle in the dark 24 hours a day. There was a window, but it was so dirty that light couldn't get in. The local authority and RSPCA tried hard to persuade the farmer to wash the window but he refused. This went on for a long period of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaker 7 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 "In comparison to the RSPCA's treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows 'psychological and ethological needs' following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse." it could well be that the law they thought so hard to bring in might just come back and bite them in the Arse. i for one hope so. That story is being quoted out of context. The farmer in question was keeping cattle in the dark 24 hours a day. There was a window, but it was so dirty that light couldn't get in. The local authority and RSPCA tried hard to persuade the farmer to wash the window but he refused. This went on for a long period of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferret15 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 “In comparison to the RSPCA’s treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows ‘psychological and ethological needs’ following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse.†it could well be that the law they thought so hard to bring in might just come back and bite them in the Arse. i for one hope so. That story is being quoted out of context. The farmer in question was keeping cattle in the dark 24 hours a day. There was a window, but it was so dirty that light couldn't get in. The local authority and RSPCA tried hard to persuade the farmer to wash the window but he refused. This went on for a long period of time. nobody is saying that he didn't keep them in the dark, it has been used as comparison, IE if he can be tried under the AWA for keeping cattle in the dark. then the RSPCA can be tried under the same law for many of its failings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timjim 43 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) credit for what....doing their fecking jobs,theyre still a bunch o c**ts they make the public believe that animal welfare is their number 1 priority when it is not, some of the dogs that were taken a couple of years ago were kept in dreadfull conditions many died, many were not mentally the same when they went back to their owners, and many were murdered, and their crime? being of PITBULL TYPE? Arse PCA should be shown for what they really are and i hope the south wales police expose this and it gets plenty of press Edited November 11, 2009 by timjim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 not a chance it will all be covered up there all as bad as each other , theyll cover this up and the arsepca will cover up the copper that left the dogs to roast in his car, tit for tat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R. Docks 154 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 “In comparison to the RSPCA’s treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows ‘psychological and ethological needs’ following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse.†it could well be that the law they thought so hard to bring in might just come back and bite them in the Arse. i for one hope so. That story is being quoted out of context. The farmer in question was keeping cattle in the dark 24 hours a day. There was a window, but it was so dirty that light couldn't get in. The local authority and RSPCA tried hard to persuade the farmer to wash the window but he refused. This went on for a long period of time. nobody is saying that he didn't keep them in the dark, it has been used as comparison, IE if he can be tried under the AWA for keeping cattle in the dark. then the RSPCA can be tried under the same law for many of its failings. I agree, and hope to see the persons at the RSPCA and the police officer in court to answer for their actions. My point was that the case of the farmer was quite justified. Some reports are suggesting that it was just that he wouldn't have electricity installed, which is not the case. I'm sure I'm not alone in believing that keeping cattle inside in the dark all year round is wrong, and does represent animal cruelty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferret15 0 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 “In comparison to the RSPCA’s treatment of these ten German Shepherd dogs, on 14 October 2009, farmer Ronald Norcliffe was fined £150 for failing to meet his cows ‘psychological and ethological needs’ following a prosecution by Kirklees Council. His failure was not providing his cattle with an electric light in the cow shed even though Mr. Norcliffe had no electricity in his farmhouse.†it could well be that the law they thought so hard to bring in might just come back and bite them in the Arse. i for one hope so. That story is being quoted out of context. The farmer in question was keeping cattle in the dark 24 hours a day. There was a window, but it was so dirty that light couldn't get in. The local authority and RSPCA tried hard to persuade the farmer to wash the window but he refused. This went on for a long period of time. nobody is saying that he didn't keep them in the dark, it has been used as comparison, IE if he can be tried under the AWA for keeping cattle in the dark. then the RSPCA can be tried under the same law for many of its failings. I agree, and hope to see the persons at the RSPCA and the police officer in court to answer for their actions. My point was that the case of the farmer was quite justified. Some reports are suggesting that it was just that he wouldn't have electricity installed, which is not the case. I'm sure I'm not alone in believing that keeping cattle inside in the dark all year round is wrong, and does represent animal cruelty. of course its wrong to keep an animal in the dark 24/7 (unless its nocturnal). all I'm trying to say is that the AWA was set up to allow prosecution of offenses such as this one, the one being brought against the RSPCA and the police man who allowed his dogs to die in the car. its about time they lived by the same laws they are trying to up hold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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