Halfinch 51 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 FFS DON'T PINCH HIS WINDPIPE! That's a sure way to do a dog some serious damage and I know many a dog that would rather pass out than let go of a rabbit. Press his lip against his teeth (firmly but not hard enough to do damage), it makes him think he's biting his lip and should make him let go. You can try a 'pet corrector' spray that makes a loud noise and should distract him enough to make him let go (maybe not ideal if you're trying to be quiet) or electric shock collar which has the same effect but a bit more extreme, it should be used in conjunction with the command to leave so that once he's learned you will only have to use the command and not the punishment (I don't really like them but if it works and you only use it to train him then fair enough). Another option is a breaking stick. LOL, tried that once with my bosses PET weimeramer that had got hold of a muntjack, did he let go? did he feck, he aslo had a shock collar to stop him leaving the boundry, but 4 lambs later the boss decided to put up a bigger fence, never know though, it MAY work on some dogs, just not in my experience. Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 FFS DON'T PINCH HIS WINDPIPE! That's a sure way to do a dog some serious damage and I know many a dog that would rather pass out than let go of a rabbit. Press his lip against his teeth (firmly but not hard enough to do damage), it makes him think he's biting his lip and should make him let go. You can try a 'pet corrector' spray that makes a loud noise and should distract him enough to make him let go (maybe not ideal if you're trying to be quiet) or electric shock collar which has the same effect but a bit more extreme, it should be used in conjunction with the command to leave so that once he's learned you will only have to use the command and not the punishment (I don't really like them but if it works and you only use it to train him then fair enough). Another option is a breaking stick. LOL, tried that once with my bosses PET weimeramer that had got hold of a muntjack, did he let go? did he feck, he aslo had a shock collar to stop him leaving the boundry, but 4 lambs later the boss decided to put up a bigger fence, never know though, it MAY work on some dogs, just not in my experience. I run lure coursing days with every breed you can imagine, of the thousands of times we've done it we've always managed to get the dogs off the lure using one of those methods. Even the strongest, most extreme, headstrong dogs will let go with the proper use of a breaking stick. Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 FFS DON'T PINCH HIS WINDPIPE! That's a sure way to do a dog some serious damage and I know many a dog that would rather pass out than let go of a rabbit. Press his lip against his teeth (firmly but not hard enough to do damage), it makes him think he's biting his lip and should make him let go. You can try a 'pet corrector' spray that makes a loud noise and should distract him enough to make him let go (maybe not ideal if you're trying to be quiet) or electric shock collar which has the same effect but a bit more extreme, it should be used in conjunction with the command to leave so that once he's learned you will only have to use the command and not the punishment (I don't really like them but if it works and you only use it to train him then fair enough). Another option is a breaking stick. LOL, tried that once with my bosses PET weimeramer that had got hold of a muntjack, did he let go? did he feck, he aslo had a shock collar to stop him leaving the boundry, but 4 lambs later the boss decided to put up a bigger fence, never know though, it MAY work on some dogs, just not in my experience. I run lure coursing days with every breed you can imagine, of the thousands of times we've done it we've always managed to get the dogs off the lure using one of those methods. Even the strongest, most extreme, headstrong dogs will let go with the proper use of a breaking stick. i wonder if that is because it is not a LIVE ANIMAL THEY ARE CATCHING that makes them let go more easily ,i expect it is . Quote Link to post
Halfinch 51 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 FFS DON'T PINCH HIS WINDPIPE! That's a sure way to do a dog some serious damage and I know many a dog that would rather pass out than let go of a rabbit. Press his lip against his teeth (firmly but not hard enough to do damage), it makes him think he's biting his lip and should make him let go. You can try a 'pet corrector' spray that makes a loud noise and should distract him enough to make him let go (maybe not ideal if you're trying to be quiet) or electric shock collar which has the same effect but a bit more extreme, it should be used in conjunction with the command to leave so that once he's learned you will only have to use the command and not the punishment (I don't really like them but if it works and you only use it to train him then fair enough). Another option is a breaking stick. LOL, tried that once with my bosses PET weimeramer that had got hold of a muntjack, did he let go? did he feck, he aslo had a shock collar to stop him leaving the boundry, but 4 lambs later the boss decided to put up a bigger fence, never know though, it MAY work on some dogs, just not in my experience. I run lure coursing days with every breed you can imagine, of the thousands of times we've done it we've always managed to get the dogs off the lure using one of those methods. Even the strongest, most extreme, headstrong dogs will let go with the proper use of a breaking stick. Fair play, it works for you then. Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) UNFIT - If you could see how driven some of the dogs are then you'd understand. Why do you think dog fighters use breaking sticks? Because nothing else works on the very highly driven dogs attacking a LIVE ANIMAL! Edited November 4, 2009 by hogdog Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Break stick all the way mate. Eventually the dog will release before the stick enters his mouth. Works everytime for me. owts better than the choke option. atb stabba Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) UNFIT - If you could see how driven some of the dogs are then you'd understand. Why do you think dog fighters use breaking sticks? Because nothing else works on the very highly driven dogs attacking a LIVE ANIMAL!sorry but i have to disagree ,i have yet to not to be able to get a dog of, and i do this with most breeds and on all sorts of game thousands of times , , and i have never used a breaking stick ,i have also owned dogs that have won lurcher racing ,. Edited November 4, 2009 by UNFIT Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 FFS DON'T PINCH HIS WINDPIPE! That's a sure way to do a dog some serious damage and I know many a dog that would rather pass out than let go of a rabbit. Press his lip against his teeth (firmly but not hard enough to do damage), it makes him think he's biting his lip and should make him let go. You can try a 'pet corrector' spray that makes a loud noise and should distract him enough to make him let go (maybe not ideal if you're trying to be quiet) or electric shock collar which has the same effect but a bit more extreme, it should be used in conjunction with the command to leave so that once he's learned you will only have to use the command and not the punishment (I don't really like them but if it works and you only use it to train him then fair enough). Another option is a breaking stick. LOL, tried that once with my bosses PET weimeramer that had got hold of a muntjack, did he let go? did he feck, he aslo had a shock collar to stop him leaving the boundry, but 4 lambs later the boss decided to put up a bigger fence, never know though, it MAY work on some dogs, just not in my experience. I run lure coursing days with every breed you can imagine, of the thousands of times we've done it we've always managed to get the dogs off the lure using one of those methods. Even the strongest, most extreme, headstrong dogs will let go with the proper use of a breaking stick. i wonder if that is because it is not a LIVE ANIMAL THEY ARE CATCHING that makes them let go more easily ,i expect it is . have tae agree there is a big diffrence betweeen a dummy an something warm sqealing wae a heartbeat So you think Pit Bulls aren't really trying when they fight and that's the reason a breaking stick works? Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 UNFIT - If you could see how driven some of the dogs are then you'd understand. Why do you think dog fighters use breaking sticks? Because nothing else works on the very highly driven dogs attacking a LIVE ANIMAL!sorry but i have to disagree ,i have yet to not to be able to get a dog of, and i do this with most breeds and on all sorts of game thousands of times , , and i have never used a breaking stick ,i have also owned dogs that have won lurcher racing ,. I agree, the vast majority don't need a breaking stick and the other methods I mentioned are more suitable but it's the only thing that will work every time. Quote Link to post
newnews 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 FFS DON'T PINCH HIS WINDPIPE! That's a sure way to do a dog some serious damage and I know many a dog that would rather pass out than let go of a rabbit. Press his lip against his teeth (firmly but not hard enough to do damage), it makes him think he's biting his lip and should make him let go. You can try a 'pet corrector' spray that makes a loud noise and should distract him enough to make him let go (maybe not ideal if you're trying to be quiet) or electric shock collar which has the same effect but a bit more extreme, it should be used in conjunction with the command to leave so that once he's learned you will only have to use the command and not the punishment (I don't really like them but if it works and you only use it to train him then fair enough). Another option is a breaking stick. LOL, tried that once with my bosses PET weimeramer that had got hold of a muntjack, did he let go? did he feck, he aslo had a shock collar to stop him leaving the boundry, but 4 lambs later the boss decided to put up a bigger fence, never know though, it MAY work on some dogs, just not in my experience. I run lure coursing days with every breed you can imagine, of the thousands of times we've done it we've always managed to get the dogs off the lure using one of those methods. Even the strongest, most extreme, headstrong dogs will let go with the proper use of a breaking stick. i wonder if that is because it is not a LIVE ANIMAL THEY ARE CATCHING that makes them let go more easily ,i expect it is . you need to get on the live stuff Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 FFS DON'T PINCH HIS WINDPIPE! That's a sure way to do a dog some serious damage and I know many a dog that would rather pass out than let go of a rabbit. Press his lip against his teeth (firmly but not hard enough to do damage), it makes him think he's biting his lip and should make him let go. You can try a 'pet corrector' spray that makes a loud noise and should distract him enough to make him let go (maybe not ideal if you're trying to be quiet) or electric shock collar which has the same effect but a bit more extreme, it should be used in conjunction with the command to leave so that once he's learned you will only have to use the command and not the punishment (I don't really like them but if it works and you only use it to train him then fair enough). Another option is a breaking stick. LOL, tried that once with my bosses PET weimeramer that had got hold of a muntjack, did he let go? did he feck, he aslo had a shock collar to stop him leaving the boundry, but 4 lambs later the boss decided to put up a bigger fence, never know though, it MAY work on some dogs, just not in my experience. I run lure coursing days with every breed you can imagine, of the thousands of times we've done it we've always managed to get the dogs off the lure using one of those methods. Even the strongest, most extreme, headstrong dogs will let go with the proper use of a breaking stick. i wonder if that is because it is not a LIVE ANIMAL THEY ARE CATCHING that makes them let go more easily ,i expect it is . have tae agree there is a big diffrence betweeen a dummy an something warm sqealing wae a heartbeat So you think Pit Bulls aren't really trying when they fight and that's the reason a breaking stick works? i have also seen this done .but like i said ,i have always been able to get a dog of ,with out the use of a breaking stick . Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 UNFIT - If you could see how driven some of the dogs are then you'd understand. Why do you think dog fighters use breaking sticks? Because nothing else works on the very highly driven dogs attacking a LIVE ANIMAL!sorry but i have to disagree ,i have yet to not to be able to get a dog of, and i do this with most breeds and on all sorts of game thousands of times , , and i have never used a breaking stick ,i have also owned dogs that have won lurcher racing ,. I agree, the vast majority don't need a breaking stick and the other methods I mentioned are more suitable but it's the only thing that will work every time. no its not ,other wise i would have to use one . Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 no mate where did i say that i said i find it hard tae belive that any dog will grip a dummy as hard an with as much determination as said dog would grip a live squealing animal You should come and watch some of the dogs that do it, they hang onto that lure like their life depends on it. Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 UNFIT - If you could see how driven some of the dogs are then you'd understand. Why do you think dog fighters use breaking sticks? Because nothing else works on the very highly driven dogs attacking a LIVE ANIMAL!sorry but i have to disagree ,i have yet to not to be able to get a dog of, and i do this with most breeds and on all sorts of game thousands of times , , and i have never used a breaking stick ,i have also owned dogs that have won lurcher racing ,. I agree, the vast majority don't need a breaking stick and the other methods I mentioned are more suitable but it's the only thing that will work every time. no its not ,other wise i would have to use one . Every time...meaning every dog! Presumably you don't take out fifty-sixty different dogs (mostly Bull breeds) every time you go hunting and presumably your dogs are better trained at releasing than some of the dogs we deal with. Quote Link to post
hogdog 61 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 You know what, carry on choking your dogs, good luck. Quote Link to post
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