flint67 2 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) nothing could be clearer from reading this forum that the hunting community does not stand together. I wonder why we think it should ,as diverse and manyfold are the hunting activities ,so too the opinions of the hunters . Is there any group of people this large anywhere that can agree on a topic this complicated. . .of course not. The reason we are all thrown together is the oldest reason for alliance there is . .my enemys enemy is my friend. .ie the antis enemies are my friend. I support foxhunting , terrierwork and lurcherwork i have no opinion one way or the other about wildfowling stalking or rough shooting. I find it hard to make a case for carp fishing or driven pheasant shooting other than it is entertainment for humans ,but i dont oppose it. i detest driven hare shooting and bagman foxes and dont ever ever ever ask me to stand united with the people who drive through my land destroying everything and leaving dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too, the divisions in hunting lie deep and go back a long way Edited November 2, 2009 by flint67 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 nothing could be clearer from reading this forum that the hunting community does not stand together. I wonder why we think it should ,as diverse and manyfold are the hunting activities ,so too the opinions of the hunters . Is there any group of people this large anywhere that can agree on a topic this complicated. . .of course not. The reason we are all thrown together is the oldest reason for alliance there is . .my enemys enemy is my friend. .ie the antis enemies are my friend. I support foxhunting , terrierwork and lurcherwork i have no opinion one way or the other about wildfowling stalking or rough shooting. I find it hard to make a case for carp fishing or driven pheasant shooting other than it is entertainment for humans ,but i dont oppose it. i detest driven hare shooting and bagman foxes and dont ever ever ever ask me to stand united with the people who drive through my land destroying everything and leaving dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too, the divisions in hunting lie deep and go back a long way foooook me light the touch paper and run Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whin 463 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 what was he trying to explain eejit heed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
birdman6 10 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 There crawling out the wood work today! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 nothing could be clearer from reading this forum that the hunting community does not stand together. I wonder why we think it should ,as diverse and manyfold are the hunting activities ,so too the opinions of the hunters . Is there any group of people this large anywhere that can agree on a topic this complicated. . .of course not. The reason we are all thrown together is the oldest reason for alliance there is . .my enemys enemy is my friend. .ie the antis enemies are my friend. I support foxhunting , terrierwork and lurcherwork i have no opinion one way or the other about wildfowling stalking or rough shooting. I find it hard to make a case for carp fishing or driven pheasant shooting other than it is entertainment for humans ,but i dont oppose it. i detest driven hare shooting and bagman foxes and dont ever ever ever ask me to stand united with the people who drive through my land destroying everything and leaving dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too, the divisions in hunting lie deep and go back a long way Obviously the above is "bollocks!! over 400,000 us stood together on the liberty and liveliehood march, wildfowlers, terrier/lurchermen, stalkers and anglers from every part of the UK stood shoulder to shoulder and accepted each others differences Its people like you who cause and advocate division by comments like yours eg: "I find it hard to make a case for carp fishing or driven pheasant shooting other than it is entertainment for humans ,but i dont oppose it. i detest driven hare shooting and bagman foxes and dont ever ever ever ask me to stand united with the people who drive through my land destroying everything and leaving dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too," The urge to fish and shoot is just as strong as it is to hunt and no true lurcher man would "leave dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too," Why single out the Lurcherman with the above statement?? I personally know guns who shoot pigeons all day!! and leave them, these people are not countrymen or true fieldsports enthusiasts!! to pick on the lurcherman is wrong and your bloody stereotyping a section of rural pursuits enthusiasts (because of a minority of morons and chav's/neds) who've put in more to this way of life than they could ever take out Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 nothing could be clearer from reading this forum that the hunting community does not stand together. I wonder why we think it should ,as diverse and manyfold are the hunting activities ,so too the opinions of the hunters . Is there any group of people this large anywhere that can agree on a topic this complicated. . .of course not. The reason we are all thrown together is the oldest reason for alliance there is . .my enemys enemy is my friend. .ie the antis enemies are my friend. I support foxhunting , terrierwork and lurcherwork i have no opinion one way or the other about wildfowling stalking or rough shooting. I find it hard to make a case for carp fishing or driven pheasant shooting other than it is entertainment for humans ,but i dont oppose it. i detest driven hare shooting and bagman foxes and dont ever ever ever ask me to stand united with the people who drive through my land destroying everything and leaving dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too, the divisions in hunting lie deep and go back a long way Obviously the above is "bollocks!! over 400,000 us stood together on the liberty and liveliehood march, wildfowlers, terrier/lurchermen, stalkers and anglers from every part of the UK stood shoulder to shoulder and accepted each others differences Its people like you who cause and advocate division by comments like yours eg: "I find it hard to make a case for carp fishing or driven pheasant shooting other than it is entertainment for humans ,but i dont oppose it. i detest driven hare shooting and bagman foxes and dont ever ever ever ask me to stand united with the people who drive through my land destroying everything and leaving dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too," The urge to fish and shoot is just as strong as it is to hunt and no true lurcher man would "leave dead game to rot in the field. Technically they are lurchermen too," Why single out the Lurcherman with the above statement?? I personally know guns who shoot pigeons all day!! and leave them, these people are not countrymen or true fieldsports enthusiasts!! to pick on the lurcherman is wrong and your bloody stereotyping a section of rural pursuits enthusiasts (because of a minority of morons and chav's/neds) who've put in more to this way of life than they could ever take out Tom ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fieldfare 1 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL But some are more equal than others!! The first and last Hunt Ball i went to, i got looked down at as i did'nt speak with a plumb in my mouth. Sad but true, i was snubbed by most . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flint67 2 Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 hello tom , your point about the march is right and is the same point i was trying to make , my enemys enemy is my friend , we all came together to defend humting against our common enemy. But that doesnt mean we all agree on every aspect of hunting. Yet whenever someone has an opinion on here the forum descends into abuse . .rapidly! The examples i gave are just my own preferences . .lining up and shooting at driven hares is sickening to me. I am a lurcherman and have been for over 20years , the guys out driving the fields are lurchermen too whether you or i like it or not. I will march with them sure , but i dont want people telling me i have to support every field sports enthusiast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL But some are more equal than others!! The first and last Hunt Ball i went to, i got looked down at as i did'nt speak with a plumb in my mouth. Sad but true, i was snubbed by most . which hunt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fieldfare 1 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL But some are more equal than others!! The first and last Hunt Ball i went to, i got looked down at as i did'nt speak with a plumb in my mouth. Sad but true, i was snubbed by most . which hunt In "which" way ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL But some are more equal than others!! The first and last Hunt Ball i went to, i got looked down at as i did'nt speak with a plumb in my mouth. Sad but true, i was snubbed by most . which hunt In "which" way ?? If you want to fit in at the Hunt Ball,.. Learn to speak proper,.you Chav.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) hello tom , your point about the march is right and is the same point i was trying to make , my enemys enemy is my friend , we all came together to defend humting against our common enemy. But that doesnt mean we all agree on every aspect of hunting. Yet whenever someone has an opinion on here the forum descends into abuse . .rapidly! The examples i gave are just my own preferences . .lining up and shooting at driven hares is sickening to me. I am a lurcherman and have been for over 20years , the guys out driving the fields are lurchermen too whether you or i like it or not. I will march with them sure , but i dont want people telling me i have to support every field sports enthusiast I personally don't like driven shooting of any kind, wether pheasant or hare but I would support an individual and defend his right to do so, as with any legal activity!! I enjoyed my terriers for over 20 years, still out now and again with the lurcher lads, I've also shot since I was a kid aged nine, I'm now 52 and I also ferret, I enjoy them all!! but not, one takes precedent over the other. each to their own with my full support,. I might not agree with some-ones politics but if I share a common bond in the support of rural pursuits I'll back them in that! I don't have to like their methods or them personally but the social cohesion between fieldsportsmen and countrysports should be paramount Tom Ps: been to the local hunt ball as well, thought it was shit!!! mostly attended by social climbers who knew bugger all about the countryside and who only wanted to be associated with the hob-nobs, thinking it would improve their own status, I only went to support the hunt and the commitee of the time!! Edited November 2, 2009 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shamus 36 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I remember way back ,when the ban was in the offing,going to a meeting to rally support locally.I looked around and it was full of the very people who would never,ever let me on to there land for a days ferreting,far less to chase a hare. Now that things were looking a bit dicey for there sport,they were quick to tell us that we must all stick together. Even though I do still go to our local hunt lurcher shows,the irony of it all is not lost on me. Anyone who thinks that there is not a class system in these sports is a fool and I speak as one who's parents have both hunted with our local hunts,they would both tell you the same. As someone said,we are all equal,just some are more equal than others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonnygray 139 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England's mountain green? And was the holy Lamb of God On England's pleasant pastures seen? And did the countenance divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here Among those dark satanic mills? Bring me my bow of burning gold! Bring me my arrows of desire! Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold! Bring me my chariot of fire! I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand, Till we have built Jerusalem In England's green and pleasant land. all for one and one for all lads! stand up for what we still got and cross your fingers to see once again what we once had! cant see it myself but hey ho! sure it wont stop me!! jonny! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AL BUNDY 45 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL But some are more equal than others!! The first and last Hunt Ball i went to, i got looked down at as i did'nt speak with a plumb in my mouth. Sad but true, i was snubbed by most . it would have been worse if you had both plums in your mouth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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