lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 The aggression is because he dont see you as the boss, dogs are pack animals and have a pecking order. In his eyes you are equal or lower than him in the pecking order, the only way to stop the aggression from him is to put him in his place. Every time he growls or snarls at you, give him a smack around the head, hard enough for him to feel it and know you mean it. Dont worry about all the do gooders saying you dont need to smack dogs to let them know, the top dog in a pack lets others know he is boss by aggression, not by talking to them. The dog will show you more respect and love by doing that, than he is showing now. Other than that, if he is too much for you to handle, bite the bullet and get shot of him. You really dont have any knowledge of dogs and how to deal with them, which isnt good for you or the dog. :clapper: :clapper: :clapper: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,095 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) well if you want a explainion he will snarl with full teeth and growl then launch at people including me Dont mean to be rude but you sound like one of those deranged women who sit writing letters to jailed serial killers explaining how with the proper treatment you can " change their ways "....... Do the dog,your kids....and ultimately yourself a favour and get rid of the dog......the mere fact you are on here asking what to do about this dog you describe above that lives with 3 children tells me you really need to get a grip of yourself before something happens YOU will have to live with...... Edited November 1, 2009 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scallywag 78 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I think the dogs behaviour needs to be assessed by someone looking at it, not by reading Leanne's descriptions since there's plenty of reason to think she's not capable of reading a dog's body language and understand what's going on anyway. I've lost count of the number of so called 'aggressive' pups that come into rescue and are nothing of the sort, just misinterpreted by owners who don't have a clue. The dog WILL become a problem if he isn't passed to someone who knows what they're doing, and soon. Leanne - like so many people have been saying, rehome the dog, you're not up to the job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wanna be farmer 0 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Right, it's either take the lazey option and buy an Halti collar which will stop his pulling Immediately or you do the traning option. The way how i was told by a dog handler from the army is when the dog starts pulling, turn direction or run backwards and then forwards and when his head gets beside your left knee say heel and then reward him when he's heeling. It will take ALOT of time and energy. If you don't know anything about dog training and can't get a dog trainer or someone local to help you out then i would advise you to get an Halti collar. They're ten pounds but i can assure you that it will work. It goes around the neck and face, as soon as the dog pulls it will pull the dogs head to one side and it will near enough immidiately stop pulling. Another way of training a dog propper leed mannors is to buy a very long lead (15 foot) and then extend it to the maximum length possible and walk one way and if the dog follows you, reward him straight away with a praise or a treat, keep walking different directions and keep rewarding him everytime he's next to you, never walk up to him because he will get the impression that he's walking you. Ignore him unless he walks next to your side, when he walks beside you be very playfull with him and praise him lots, but when he doesn't, turn the other way, don't look or talk to him and change direction, then when he walks beside you praise him again. Train him like this at two seperate 15 minute sessions a day. Don't have many if not no distractions for the dog at the start but increase the amount of distractions as he gets better at it. It may take you alot of time, but that's what dog training is. Don't use a choke chain, i don't agree with them and they don't often work. If used correctly, they can work but i would never use one personally. I strongly suggest that you get a dog trainer, the going rate around here is one on one sessions at £40, and 4 sessions for £30 with others. If the dogs are fine with the children the don't get rid of the dog, but as soon as it starts growling at the children, get rid of it, or get the problem sorted. Never leave the children alone with the dog. Don't let other people off of here put you down for what you do. Just don't feck up the dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wanna be farmer 0 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Enforce to the dog that YOU are it's boss and he WILL do what you ask of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leannelurcher 0 Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 took all the advice and i am going to try my best .i want to keep bailey so mutch and i am willing 24/7 to be a right owner and show bailey i am boss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beddyman 6 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Beddyman i am 6 miles away and have offered help and we have a lot of experienced dog men coming to our meets every sunday and help was offered over a month ago when problems started but she was worried about bringing dog as some people tried to take him off her a few days prior.... well what is her prob if she is being offered help first hand but wont take it ??? but come on here stating what problems her dog has ... ffs woman if you care about your dog and firstmost your kids get a grip and take MR HUNTER up on his offer and show some genuine responsibility Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 When we got our american bulldog everyone would tell us not a breed for first time owners...we done everything by the book and dog turnd out fine but id agree some breeds arent ideal for first timers...have seen many staffords not getting enough excerise running riot at the first chance...only to have a fat single mum in a pink tracksuit shouting for tupac to come back...sounds as if youve got a dominate dog which isnt ideal. Understand your attachd but what comes first you and your needs? The dog thats showing no respect? The kids? Id ethier get help or give the dog to a good home. No dought itll be hard but itll be alot harder if your kids are attacked and you could of preventd it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuttleMcTuttle 21 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Leanne - this is a rather worrying tale... It seems that Bailey has given you quite a lot of grief already, and you have been advised to move him on to someone who has the knowledge to train him and turn him into a good dog. I can't help agreeing with that... I think it would be best for all of you, rather than risk his behaviour deteriorating further. But if you insist on persevering with him - and at the end of the day he's your dog and you are obviously fond of him - then you really have to get on top of these problems now. At 5 months he is starting to feel his feet, and in about another month he'll probably be humping your leg too, so start saving for the castration op now! There's been good advice so far re the pulling, all of which can work, but halti collars are good, and also the trick of swift changes of direction and pace. Your dog should always be looking at you for leadership. Is there a local dog training group you could take him to for basic training? You mentioned that he wouldn't go in his crate. Why is this? Do you put him in the crate as a punishment? That's not really what crates are for. A puppy crate is where the pup sleeps, and where you put him to keep him out of mischief or harm. It should be a place where he can have a quiet kip, a little play with his toys, a refuge from the kids, his own personal space... not an unpleasant place. When he's in the crate he can do what he likes, but when he's out he has to fit in with the rest of the pack, and he has to be at the bottom of the heap. He's a bit old and a bit big for this now, but a good trick with training pups to stay with you is to simply get a lead with a clip either end and clip it to your belt. Attach pup and just chat to it as you go about your daily business. Tell it to heel when you walk off, sit when you stop, etc. If the pup gets trod on a few times it will learn to watch where you are going. Treat him like a dog, not another kid. If he growls at you, growl back - and mean it! If he snaps at you, grab him by the fur either side of his neck and give him a severe wigging. Don't slap or hit him, specially on the face. Make him lie down and stand over him, when he'll let you do this easily and maybe roll on to his back, you'll be in charge again. Be sensible with him - make sure there is no food he can steal, clean the areas you don't want him messing on with a biological action cleaner, never ever leave him alone with the kids, and be totally consistent with him. Don't tell him off today then let him get away with it tomorrow. I wouldn't recommend shock collars, but the remote control spray collars can work well to cure a variety of undesirable beaviour patterns in young impressionable dogs. Good luck - you're going to need it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hob&Jill 258 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 took all the advice and i am going to try my best .i want to keep bailey so mutch and i am willing 24/7 to be a right owner and show bailey i am boss You havent taken any of the advice. Really dont want to spund horrid but your not capable of being the right owner. Simple as that. Its a weak little 5 month old pup and your strugling, it will only get worse. When that dog bites one of your kids you will wish you took the advice. Just GIVE UP now before its too late. Do right by the dog and your KIDS. I doubt you will listen as you dont seem to want to/ or you not capable of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 585 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Is anyone familiar with the expression 'may as well pish in the wind'?, well unfortunately I think this is as much use as everyone's advice is going to be to this girl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,095 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 took all the advice and i am going to try my best .i want to keep bailey so mutch and i am willing 24/7 to be a right owner and show bailey i am boss Well that was a pointless exercise then wasnt it........... Its a funny old place the internet.........only on the internet could somebody come out with stuff like this and not end up with police/nspcc on their doorstep ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 shock collar and even spray would be a big no imo its all about timeing and she does have the experiance. Understand being a woman and scared because in the past someone tried to take your dog but im sure they would bring such a git back lol just kidding. Go to the training or give to experianced home. The dog will only suffer what with living a life of stress and your kids may suffer even more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Is anyone familiar with the expression 'may as well pish in the wind'?, well unfortunately I think this is as much use as everyone's advice is going to be to this girl. One good thing though.... If I ever get a dog, I'll read through these threads and act on the good advice contained in them. Because this horse can drink.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wanna be farmer 0 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Is anyone familiar with the expression 'may as well pish in the wind'?, well unfortunately I think this is as much use as everyone's advice is going to be to this girl. One good thing though.... If I ever get a dog, I'll read through these threads and act on the good advice contained in them. Because this horse can drink.... So you would be following all of my advice Droid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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