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[francolin 449]

if truth be told without box there can be a lot of tunneling ,trenching deep sets in sand a fxxxxing nightmare, give it a go ear to ground mark spots if you hear action when its a steady mark try a dig keep probing bar in for tube,as said sometimes a mute dog can be located but sound does travel different in diff terain, GOOD LUCK PUT COLLAR ON INCASE

[lancer 13]

in some places you would not hear a thing,maybe a little bit at a hole which gives you no indication of where the dog is,it is always wise to have the locator on.

[J Darcy 5,871]

Without a collar we would probably all need better terriers.....

[liamdelaney 2,586]

Dug since i was a child with the old timers first box i seen was about twenty years ago.Mute dogs were not tolerated at all.First thing you would ask about a dog whats his bark like.As it was mostly badger digging we done noisey dogs were valued greatly.Golden rules were complete silence at the dig(well almost)or you got a kick in the arse.Keep tied up dogs well away from the dig if they were noisey or some old timer would silence him.It was an art that you learned from been at it all the time and learning from the old heads.Sometimes it could take two to three hours just to locate a sound in big places(shows the quality of whats dogs had to be)On windy days experienced men lying on the ground with heavy coats over their heads to keep out the noise of the wind.Very colourfull language if somebody was coughing or breaking the silence in any way this was a serious game to those men and bored children were not tolerated.Another trick the experienced men had was straight timber sticks put to the ground and held lightly they could feel the vibrations through the stick(I could never master it)Boreholes and t bars and sticks and ears and knowledge of their dogs and every set in the country was what these men had and passed it on to those who would listen and loved this old digging game as much as they did.With all the high tech locators now I still love the sound of the old grey box they have their faults but I still find them great for pin point accuracy and can still remember the pride and the joy on receiving my first one in the post from England.And I still hate mute dogs and dont think they should be bred from a working terrier is supposed to bark.And as a foot note.There is nothing as nice and peacefull as a dig by yourself listening to every little sound of under ground work and the sound of the countryside around you.That to me is still heaven.

[dannys lad 0]

my old man always say the locators spoiled working terriers (lots will not agree with this statement.)

he says dog are not tested like they was back in the old days now its dog in, dig down, dog out

he says the modern terrier has lost its staying power unlike the old type that would stay as long as was needed be it 5,6,7 hours

 

am sure people will dissagree

[liamdelaney 2,586]

my old man always say the locators spoiled working terriers (lots will not agree with this statement.)

he says dog are not tested like they was back in the old days now its dog in, dig down, dog out

he says the modern terrier has lost its staying power unlike the old type that would stay as long as was needed be it 5,6,7 hours

 

am sure people will dissagree

Your father is right digging is now very simple.Dig him out quickly in case he comes out himself.

[Waz 4,252]

Old thread on this here,,,,,,,, http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...=109501&hl=

[Cleanspade 3,322]

I still hate mute dogs and dont think they should be bred from a working terrier is supposed to bark.And as a foot note.There is nothing as nice and peacefull as a dig by yourself listening to every little sound of under ground work and the sound of the countryside around

 

 

good post.

 

its worth remembering that in area's with tree's the vibrations can be carried along roots and give a false possition. i used to lay flat on the ground with my arms and legs spread. you can feel the thumping through your body. then you can put your ear to the ground. a good booming voice was prized. cant beat a good baying terrier.

[jonesy 111]

Was at a dig one day when the lad that uncoupled the dog had his magnet on his belt loop and it turned the collar off,so ear to the ground all over and not surprisingly it was the oldest bloke there who found the dog,being used to finding the old fashion way.

[Waz 4,252]

Was at a dig one day when the lad that uncoupled the dog had his magnet on his belt loop and it turned the collar off,so ear to the ground all over and not surprisingly it was the oldest bloke there who found the dog,being used to finding the old fashion way.

 

Happened to me on a boar drive, had to wait half hour or so for all the guns to get into position, picked up a terrier bitch of mine, had my keys with magnet in my chest pocket, anyway when it all kicked off boars running this way and that, lost my bitch in the mayhem, no problem I thought switched on the pieps,,,,,,,,,,nothing. Plenty of coypu about so walked up and down the river a few times, heard a few grunts and as I found her she was drawing a coypu.

[Ben Dover 1]

my old man always say the locators spoiled working terriers (lots will not agree with this statement.)

he says dog are not tested like they was back in the old days now its dog in, dig down, dog out

he says the modern terrier has lost its staying power unlike the old type that would stay as long as was needed be it 5,6,7 hours

 

am sure people will dissagree

Your father is right digging is now very simple.Dig him out quickly in case he comes out himself.

 

Amen to that !!!

[liamdelaney 2,586]

I still hate mute dogs and dont think they should be bred from a working terrier is supposed to bark.And as a foot note.There is nothing as nice and peacefull as a dig by yourself listening to every little sound of under ground work and the sound of the countryside around

 

 

good post.

 

its worth remembering that in area's with tree's the vibrations can be carried along roots and give a false possition. i used to lay flat on the ground with my arms and legs spread. you can feel the thumping through your body. then you can put your ear to the ground. a good booming voice was prized. cant beat a good baying terrier.

Never saw that trick done before Cleanspade.But it makes good sense.Just goes to show when you listen its never to late to learn new tricks of the trade.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Ive ALWAYS tried to find a terrier without the box before its brought in to verify .Listen at holes first ,this will give you roughly the general area .Hands flat on the ground will give you another clue up to a depth of about 6 foot ,covering the ground in 3 foot moves ,anything deeper and its back to the holes ,scramble in and turn your head about to get the direction to trench in.Open your mouth slightly as this will give you direction in one ear better than the other . Clear away the leaves, grass,twigs anything that will get you nearer the ground and listen with one ear shut .Loud baying from a particular hole is very deceiving and rarely nearby ive found .When trenching stay below the hole as you will lose it .Dont be put off by trying away from the main bury as when theres a faint noise or no sound it dosnt necessarily mean its deep ,just a long way off .I think every terriermen should practice this from time to time as you never know when you'll need it .

Modern technology makes for a modern terriermen ,modern terrier and loses part of where the sport came from ,how it started and the dogs and men that started it .

Id never put a dog in without one but it is by no means the be all and end all if it fails on me .

Good SAFE digging to all .

Foxdropper .

[TOPPER 1,809]

thank god i was taught well in the old ways been doing to much of it latley as my B&F is playing up, and i must agree with liam locaters have spoilt the terrier man and there dogs

[the_stig 6,614]

Old thread on this here,,,,,,,, http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...=109501&hl=

never saw it first time round -- posted coz i just got fed up with the latest round of plummer threads Edited November 2, 2009 by the_stig