Ban On Game Shooting

[Brummy 9]

The powers that be want our guns make no mistake and this will be a step closer to totally disarming everyone in the land, apart from the criminals !

[2434me 13]

ban the lot and bring back coursing and hunting with dogs and hawks, serously if they banned shooting ther would be more land for unorganised days , thye stopped shooting alot down my way not so much organised shoots , its not hurt the community , they opend it up to the public to walk they get revinues in a diffrent way ,never been a keen follower of rearing twenty thousand birds to blast would rether se well managed shoots with less birds and more pest control

 

Who needs ANTI 'S when we have cancer like this in our own ranks !!!!!

 

Never been a keen follower of a stab in the back !!!!!

[Malt 379]

theres not in my opinion the same amount of people into fox hunting as there is into shooting,

Have you ever been to a boxing day hunt? 2000 odd at our last one, and how many registered hunts are there dotted about the country?

 

Then you've got the private packs, terrier men and lurcher men..

 

I'd say all in it's a pretty even split.

[Malt 379]

ban the lot and bring back coursing and hunting with dogs and hawks, serously if they banned shooting ther would be more land for unorganised days , thye stopped shooting alot down my way not so much organised shoots , its not hurt the community , they opend it up to the public to walk they get revinues in a diffrent way ,never been a keen follower of rearing twenty thousand birds to blast would rether se well managed shoots with less birds and more pest control

 

Who needs ANTI 'S when we have cancer like this in our own ranks !!!!!

 

Never been a keen follower of a stab in the back !!!!!

Say's a fella that likened dog men to 'drunken oiks roaming the countryside' in a thread about deerstalking being made cheaper....

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited September 3, 2019 by grant_c

[Malt 379]

theres not in my opinion the same amount of people into fox hunting as there is into shooting,

Have you ever been to a boxing day hunt? 2000 odd at our last one, and how many registered hunts are there dotted about the country?

 

Then you've got the private packs, terrier men and lurcher men..

 

I'd say all in it's a pretty even split.

 

 

listen mate theres 4 terriers and 2 lurchers in my possesion and im out with hunts regular, dont take me the wrong way, im out with my terriers and lurchers far more than im out with any of my guns shooting, but shooting is more popular like i said in my opinion than fox hunting, if i had to give up 1 of them guns or my dogs my guns would be away in an instant without any serious thought needed at all, so dont think im on the other side of the fence i just think if you stood all the dog men or hunters in britain and all the shooters in 2 big groups the shooting group would be bigger, i may be wrong but i cant see it.

You don't have to convince me mate, as far as I'm concerned there isn't even a fence to sit on! As I've said before, elsewhere on this site I never realised that such a split existed between shooters & dogmen before I joined this site. In my experience here locally, dogman and shooters always get on, they walk the same fields, (often together at the same time) drink in the same pubs and you never heard one lot slag the others off. Maybe we're just lucky here!

[Swampy 147]

The powers that be want our guns make no mistake and this will be a step closer to totally disarming everyone in the land, apart from the criminals !

 

Interesting point and one not without legitmacy!

 

rgds

 

Swampy

 

 

a well armed ning

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited September 3, 2019 by grant_c

[SportingShooter 0]

Whether you like Driven Game shooting or not, I wouldn't be so naive to think that once that is banned, then other forms of shooting will soon follow.

 

To be complacent and think that Shooting is never going to be banned is foolish, it can be banned like anything else. Since when did the Government give a toss for tradition or rural communities?

 

I might remind everyone, that an Early Day Motion was how the Hunting Ban found its foundations, which led to a Private Members Bill which was the first nail in the coffin for hunting as it brought it to MPs attention.

 

Can we ban MPs?

 

 

 

theres not in my opinion the same amount of people into fox hunting as there is into shooting, ok fox hunting generated some money but nowhere near what is generated by shooting, i dont think im foolish if you do then thats your opinion read what i wrote youll see i wrote in my opinion, mine obviously differs from you i wouldnt call you foolish for what you think i dont expect it back, red grouse without a doubt would become extinct if gamekeepers were not there and if it did happen unless wealthy landowners kept on gamekeepers because they wanted to keep red grouse i think they would vanish, in a time when so many million are jobless would it be a smart thing to do to put gamekeepers, game farms, out of buisness, theres far more toffs into shooting than hunting, unfortunately thats the way this f****d up world works the upper classes word means more than the working class for every shooting estate thats a buisness a buisness has employees, write down on a piece of paper what a gemekeeper needs throughout his year right down to staples nails and snares then think where they come from if it went down the pan britain would loss billions every year so like i said in my opinion it wont happen same when they "suggested" banning fishing they were told theres 5 million people fish in britain did we ever hear any more about that?

It wasn't aimed at you Grant, if it were then I would have said so. Its aimed at everyone in the Shooting community who might have the complacency to think that their particular hobby cannot and will not ever be banned. I think that is a very dangerous thing to think which could easily lead to making things far too easy for the politicians so eager to get rid of us.

 

Shooting generates £6bn a year to the rural economy and as you say, does provide huge amounts of jobs, income and support to rural businesses and landowners.

 

There are currently 550,000 Shotgun Certificates on issue along with 130,000 Firearm Certificates, that gives you a rough idea of the amount of people in the shooting community who actually shoot, which I think is roughly along the same lines as the Hunting community and its followers.

 

As for Gamekeepers and the supplies they use, I know full well what they require as I am one

[Yokel Matt 918]

thousands of tons of leadshot and plastic casings discharged annually by live quarry shooters

 

I would just LOVE to know how he came up with that one....

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited September 3, 2019 by grant_c

[birdman6 10]

This is the problem with people in this country, we all talk about it but don't do anything about it. we sit back and wait for someone else to go first! We all need to stand up to them, and show the b*stard that are dictating to us what we can and can't do that we are not taking it anymore! fishermen/women, dogmen/women and shooters should be standing together not bitching at each other.

Edited October 31, 2009 by birdman6

[2434me 13]

ban the lot and bring back coursing and hunting with dogs and hawks, serously if they banned shooting ther would be more land for unorganised days , thye stopped shooting alot down my way not so much organised shoots , its not hurt the community , they opend it up to the public to walk they get revinues in a diffrent way ,never been a keen follower of rearing twenty thousand birds to blast would rether se well managed shoots with less birds and more pest control

 

Who needs ANTI 'S when we have cancer like this in our own ranks !!!!!

 

Never been a keen follower of a stab in the back !!!!!

Say's a fella that likened dog men to 'drunken oiks roaming the countryside' in a thread about deerstalking being made cheaper....

 

If you read the thread ,most intelligent people would have understood the way it was going !Then again , This is a web page ? (lots of hidden OIKS about ! )

[hily 380]

MONEY TALKS especialy with MP,s we should wind up the manufacturers importers and retailers of shooting related gear and services ets together they probably will be able to hire a good parlamentry lobbyist .Iwill start a list of with vets agricultural merchants clothing manufacturers gun makers just to name a few anyone reading this could add many more .No disrespect to all the field sports organisations but they only represent ordinary folk and lets face it your average MP could'nt care less about them .they like to please the people with money and power in the hope that some of it will come thier way.

[SportingShooter 0]

Whether you like Driven Game shooting or not, I wouldn't be so naive to think that once that is banned, then other forms of shooting will soon follow.

 

To be complacent and think that Shooting is never going to be banned is foolish, it can be banned like anything else. Since when did the Government give a toss for tradition or rural communities?

 

I might remind everyone, that an Early Day Motion was how the Hunting Ban found its foundations, which led to a Private Members Bill which was the first nail in the coffin for hunting as it brought it to MPs attention.

 

Can we ban MPs?

 

 

 

theres not in my opinion the same amount of people into fox hunting as there is into shooting, ok fox hunting generated some money but nowhere near what is generated by shooting, i dont think im foolish if you do then thats your opinion read what i wrote youll see i wrote in my opinion, mine obviously differs from you i wouldnt call you foolish for what you think i dont expect it back, red grouse without a doubt would become extinct if gamekeepers were not there and if it did happen unless wealthy landowners kept on gamekeepers because they wanted to keep red grouse i think they would vanish, in a time when so many million are jobless would it be a smart thing to do to put gamekeepers, game farms, out of buisness, theres far more toffs into shooting than hunting, unfortunately thats the way this f****d up world works the upper classes word means more than the working class for every shooting estate thats a buisness a buisness has employees, write down on a piece of paper what a gemekeeper needs throughout his year right down to staples nails and snares then think where they come from if it went down the pan britain would loss billions every year so like i said in my opinion it wont happen same when they "suggested" banning fishing they were told theres 5 million people fish in britain did we ever hear any more about that?

It wasn't aimed at you Grant, if it were then I would have said so. Its aimed at everyone in the Shooting community who might have the complacency to think that their particular hobby cannot and will not ever be banned. I think that is a very dangerous thing to think which could easily lead to making things far too easy for the politicians so eager to get rid of us.

 

Shooting generates £6bn a year to the rural economy and as you say, does provide huge amounts of jobs, income and support to rural businesses and landowners.

 

There are currently 550,000 Shotgun Certificates on issue along with 130,000 Firearm Certificates, that gives you a rough idea of the amount of people in the shooting community who actually shoot, which I think is roughly along the same lines as the Hunting community and its followers.

 

As for Gamekeepers and the supplies they use, I know full well what they require as I am one

 

 

to be honest i would of thought there would have been more certificates both firearms and shotgun issued, is that figure for the whole of britain?

Apologies, I should have said, Thats for England and Wales, I couldn't find any recent figures for Scotland, but the ones I did find were around 100,000 Shotgun Certificates on issue, north of the border