Roe Does

[jon15 14]

With the 1st quickly approaching, I have got together my doe cull numbers for the season ahead and am ready to start. I have had two fellow stalkers say that I start my cull too soon, and should only shoot single does up until Christmas and then start on the does with kids after that.

I would be interested in your views.

Thanks.

[mudman 14]

What I have been told is that roe kids although by now not dependent on mum for food are still very much dependent on her for guidance in the big bad world, where to feed, where and what to avoid, where to shelter etc etc. If deprived of mum too early they can suffer during the winter and can fail to make it through to spring. As a guideline I have been told to leave does with kids until after Christmas, shoot just single does before hand or if you can be 100% sure of getting them all, doe then kids.

Edited October 29, 2009 by mudman

[wireviz 8]

I have already started my doe cull and have removed 5 off a bit that has to many my rule is make sure you see the kids and shoot them first its the best way to make sure there is no deer welfare issue.

[john robbo 30]

What I have been told is that roe kids although by now not dependent on mum for food are still very much dependent on her for guidance in the big bad world, where to feed, where and what to avoid, where to shelter etc etc. If deprived of mum too early they can suffer during the winter and can fail to make it through to spring. As a guideline I have been told to leave does with kids until after Christmas, shoot just single does before hand or if you can be 100% sure of getting them all, doe then kids.

I agree with this statement.

[tommydeer 2]

What I have been told is that roe kids although by now not dependent on mum for food are still very much dependent on her for guidance in the big bad world, where to feed, where and what to avoid, where to shelter etc etc. If deprived of mum too early they can suffer during the winter and can fail to make it through to spring. As a guideline I have been told to leave does with kids until after Christmas, shoot just single does before hand or if you can be 100% sure of getting them all, doe then kids.

I agree with this statement.

 

 

Very sensible, we always give the fallow and sika longer with their mums fo similar reasons

[wireviz 8]

[John Robbo i thought you was an AW and used the guide set by DMQ or best practice or have you decided to make your own rules up .So i will say again KIDS FIRST then mother if she is still around the other way is never guaranteed.

Edited October 29, 2009 by wireviz

[john robbo 30]

[John Robbo i thought you was an AW and used the guide set by DMQ or best practice or have you decided to make your own rules up .So i will say again KIDS FIRST then mother if she is still around the other way is never guaranteed.

That is all it is a guide not a rule!!!??

What i said is i agree with the statement, maybe i dont follow it??

[mubz2cool 4]

[John Robbo i thought you was an AW and used the guide set by DMQ or best practice or have you decided to make your own rules up .So i will say again KIDS FIRST then mother if she is still around the other way is never guaranteed.

you always have to start somthing off

[wireviz 8]

Mub this is a forum and that is why we must try and stick to Best Practice at all time .There is never a 100% in this game that is why the kids must b removed first.John is an AW this means people are watching his posts and will follow him he also takes people out they might do a stalk with him then come out with me. He lets them hit an adult first and every thing gose ok i get the same chap who comes up hits an adult the kids bugger off i would kick his ass big time for it. There are reason for following guides and in this case it is for Deer welfare

[mj robson 8]

We've had 4 so far with a lot more to come!

 

I always take out the yearling Does first to stock the freezer up, their the best eating!

 

 

Mark.

[huntingkid 0]

is it true that roe bucks are out of season tomorrow or is this wrong??

[jon15 14]

Thank you for the advice, will start with the yearling does and then leave the kids and does until later in the season.

[john robbo 30]

Mub this is a forum and that is why we must try and stick to Best Practice at all time .There is never a 100% in this game that is why the kids must b removed first.John is an AW this means people are watching his posts and will follow him he also takes people out they might do a stalk with him then come out with me. He lets them hit an adult first and every thing gose ok i get the same chap who comes up hits an adult the kids bugger off i would kick his ass big time for it. There are reason for following guides and in this case it is for Deer welfare

If I have a client out they will usually shoot yearlings first if on my own and culling numbers will shoot the old girl first then the kids more often then not will shoot all this way...Sometimes it becomes a numbers game but not with clients..

If numbers are ok will take just a doe kid they ARE good eating.

Anyway W.V. my clients only shoot what I tell them weather or not they've been with you or anybody as if I were with you I would shoot whatever YOU told me to In whatever order YOU wanted guidelines or not thats the way it should be.

Edited October 30, 2009 by john robbo

[wireviz 8]

John if you don't follow best practice guide that is up to you but as an AW you should not put that on a forum were novices are learning from your so called experience .

[john robbo 30]

John if you don't follow best practice guide that is up to you but as an AW you should not put that on a forum were novices are learning from your so called experience .

As we have said it is a guide,

and a guide only.

it can not be a hard and fast rule on every bodies ground or cicumstances.

The rule any body ought to follow,, is do as your guide tells you in what ever order he says. his experience on that ground is what you pay for!! period.

the fields and woods are the best class room.

 

Another point is as an A.W. I can only witness stalks not interfere or influence what a stalker dose for right or wrong. JUST witness and do the paperwork and ask the questions its not up to me to say if they do it to a code only to provide the evidence for the assesors to make THEIR desicion.

Edited October 31, 2009 by john robbo