iamduvern 62 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Im looking to get a second whippet x from a guy I know, have seen the dog work great little ferreting dog but when lamping after the second or third run the dog starts to hunt up and recall goes out of the window and he can be off for 10/15 mins before he comes back Can this be cured as I really like the dog he is a great little character Quote Link to post
wild rover 548 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Im looking to get a second whippet x from a guy I know, have seen the dog work great little ferreting dog but when lamping after the second or third run the dog starts to hunt up and recall goes out of the window and he can be off for 10/15 mins before he comes back Can this be cured as I really like the dog he is a great little character Why is he parting with it ? how old is it, you would have to go back to basic training, hard work but possible Quote Link to post
MAIN MAN 277 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Im looking to get a second whippet x from a guy I know, have seen the dog work great little ferreting dog but when lamping after the second or third run the dog starts to hunt up and recall goes out of the window and he can be off for 10/15 mins before he comes back Can this be cured as I really like the dog he is a great little character Why is he parting with it ? how old is it, you would have to go back to basic training, hard work but possible dont waist your time mate! your put loads of time in to it only to be disapointed. Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 It can be cured mate if he runs off just switch the lamp off and wait. Eventually the penny should drop that the fun is at the end of your beam. Try and stick to short courses till he's catching regular Quote Link to post
merle24 61 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 The dog hasnt clicked properly to the lamp yet, it can be cured, get him clued up on the lamp get him easy kills, he will click. Quote Link to post
Thomsons dogs 37 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 The dog hasnt clicked properly to the lamp yet, it can be cured, get him clued up on the lamp get him easy kills, he will click. does he let the dog hunt up through the day mabe this the problem pal Quote Link to post
mikeyboy 7 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 just keep turning lamp off he will soon work it out. run him with a dog that comes straight back that works aswell atb mike Quote Link to post
blackpack 70 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 it can be cured. As said if it doesnt come straight back turn lamp off. When the dog eventually comes back dont make fuss or even talk to the dog, just put lead straight on the dog. As you said he will come back at first so make a huge fuss of him even if you look daft and scare all the game away it doesnt matter. Also start him again with the dummy in the garden or even better a alley way so its back to basics but if the dog is good and you like him its worth trying. All the best Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) Im looking to get a second whippet x from a guy I know, have seen the dog work great little ferreting dog but when lamping after the second or third run the dog starts to hunt up and recall goes out of the window and he can be off for 10/15 mins before he comes back Can this be cured as I really like the dog he is a great little character A friend of mine has this problem with 2 litter mates ,they are a year old ,he neglected to get them 100% on the recall in daytime and took them lamping,they catch ok and retreive ,eventually ,but if they miss they can be gone for 10 minutes.He has an electric collar fitted on them now and gives them a mild zap ,they are steadily improving.Really a dog should be 100% on the recall before being taken out hunting ,imo,most dogs will deaf you out when they are on something but hunting up is a no no at night. Pre ban, a Vet in our coursing club had a tidy little dog ,but it was a sod to get back ,he invested in one of these collars and it cured the problem. Edited October 28, 2009 by inan Quote Link to post
fresh earth 47 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 all my whippets hunt up a good bit in front through the day but when on the lamp they come right back as soon as the beem is of pup is 8 month she gets one slip most nights other nights if its easy slips three but i never give her the chance to start pissin about through the day she gets 3 or four retrieves most days sometimes she wont get a retrieve for a week i through a ball sometimes sometimes a dummy other times a wood pigeon or a rabbit depending on what i have at hand the bitch didnt show any interest in bringing anything back to me up untill about a month ago then the penny droped and she realised what she was expected to do she run with the pack until last month now she is out every day on her own i never take a pup out with an older dog until i am sure that it will retrieve or come right back in when supposed to another dog can be more of a hinderance than a help when training a pup as most pups raised in a kennel are reluctant to bring there prize back to you when the other dog mite take it from them a few of my mates have wasted good dogs that retrieved as the useless muts they had them out with kept trying to steel there catch. Quote Link to post
bird 9,969 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 it can be cured. As said if it doesnt come straight back turn lamp off. When the dog eventually comes back dont make fuss or even talk to the dog, just put lead straight on the dog. As you said he will come back at first so make a huge fuss of him even if you look daft and scare all the game away it doesnt matter. Also start him again with the dummy in the garden or even better a alley way so its back to basics but if the dog is good and you like him its worth trying. All the best Yep ,but you have got get in to is [head], when he miss'es the rabbit the [shout] the fecker+whistle.It [dont] matter about the rabbits, because he as prob put them back to ground anway . You have [got to] get the recall spot on, it dont matter where he is or whats in his mouth he has got come back straight away. Alot of lurchers [when young] can go feckin deaf with the 1st few runs, just stop and do the recall to the beam 1/2 dozen times, then try a rabbit some where else. Forget rabbits get the dog right 1st, rabbits 2nd. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Mine stopped hunting up after a night out with his sire. His sire comes back as soon as the lamp's off, and mine followed suit after a few slips along side him. Quote Link to post
Sully 3 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I asked this, can you have a dog hunting up during the day and be switched on to recalling back as soon as the lamp goes off, looking forward to the training part Quote Link to post
scotty2306 37 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 my bitch was no bother on the lamp until i started daytime with her then she started hunting up she is ok now but was annoying at the time. from then i keep them off daytime until they have done a full season on the lamp so they dont get confused as a young dog.if they are chasing things in the daytime and they are getting away of course they will ratch around the same at night for them. if you want a dog to be good at lamping show it nothing else or same if you want daytime just the same then there is no confusion Quote Link to post
fresh earth 47 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 if you ask me yes i have a whippet bitch a mate has two and another has one we all work our dogs as a pack with terriers and spaniels hunting cover whin bushes woodland etc the same dogs all work the lamp go straight out the beem and whenever the lamp is of they coma back to heal without any recall you point the lamp they go as they know something is at the end of the beem although we all run our dogs single handed no point in having two dogs knocking each other of a rabbit they can both catch on there own. Quote Link to post
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