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about a month ago i got given my 1st ever gun dog/ beating dog, , she is a lab x cocker ( accidental mating ) but looks a very tidy little bitch, she is now 7 1/2 month old and doing well with basic training, walking to heal, retrieving dummy which has a pair of partridge wings tied to it, recall whistle, stop whistle, even when hunting up, and is just picking up on hand signals, she will also sit and stay while i walk out and throw the dummy out and not move until told, ( very pleased so far ) took her on her 1st day beating on saturday, as am in charge of the beating line i got to choose where i could go, , so picked hedges that normally holded a few birds but that was out the way, of any other dogs plus cover, , , she hunted up perfect putting birds up and recalled everytime i asked her to do even when there was birds right in front of here, i let her watch birds go over the guns and other dogs pick them, , but choose not to let her have ago just yet,

 

question, what age roughly do you let your dog start to retrieve game ?

 

plus the "get back" command, how do you teach a dog to "get back" ??

 

i have lurchers and terriers that i work alot but finding alot of pleasure watching this bitch work,

 

thanks in advance,

[Marty_J 1]

Wow, if she's doing all that at 7 months she's doing fantastic.

 

Most dogs wouldn't be at that standard till they'd had 3 or 4 months training ( some never get there at all )

 

The only advice I'd give is not to rush things, she's still only a pup.

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

Wow, if she's doing all that at 7 months she's doing fantastic.

 

Most dogs wouldn't be at that standard till they'd had 3 or 4 months training ( some never get there at all )

 

The only advice I'd give is not to rush things, she's still only a pup.

 

 

just been told by a good trainer to leave her at that for a while, , she is doing great ( touch wood ), just to keep practising what she already knows, she is out twice a day every day somethimes more, each time lasting about a hour, , she did f**k about picking the dummy earlier, think i asked her to early normally got to have 30mins playing and just messing about to blow some steam of, ,

 

atb,

[eddiej35 10]

Wow, if she's doing all that at 7 months she's doing fantastic.

 

Most dogs wouldn't be at that standard till they'd had 3 or 4 months training ( some never get there at all )

 

The only advice I'd give is not to rush things, she's still only a pup.

 

 

just been told by a good trainer to leave her at that for a while, , she is doing great ( touch wood ), just to keep practising what she already knows, she is out twice a day every day somethimes more, each time lasting about a hour, , she did f**k about picking the dummy earlier, think i asked her to early normally got to have 30mins playing and just messing about to blow some steam of, ,

 

atb,

She reminds me if my bitch x..If i was you i would save the retrieve for the end of your walk and when she has done it praise her loads.Stick to the stay and heel walking for now and just let her mooch in the under growth but keep whistling her back every min or so just to get that return blow imprinted solid..she will be a cracker by what she is doing already..good luck.

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

Wow, if she's doing all that at 7 months she's doing fantastic.

 

Most dogs wouldn't be at that standard till they'd had 3 or 4 months training ( some never get there at all )

 

The only advice I'd give is not to rush things, she's still only a pup.

 

 

just been told by a good trainer to leave her at that for a while, , she is doing great ( touch wood ), just to keep practising what she already knows, she is out twice a day every day somethimes more, each time lasting about a hour, , she did f**k about picking the dummy earlier, think i asked her to early normally got to have 30mins playing and just messing about to blow some steam of, ,

 

atb,

She reminds me if my bitch x..If i was you i would save the retrieve for the end of your walk and when she has done it praise her loads.Stick to the stay and heel walking for now and just let her mooch in the under growth but keep whistling her back every min or so just to get that return blow imprinted solid..she will be a cracker by what she is doing already..good luck.

 

 

thanks for the advice, ,

 

well chuffed with her so far, ive been racalling her every now and then just for no reason giving her a praise then let her go again, when i 1st got her she wasnt to keen on coming back because she new what was next, ( lead ), , also i can pipe the whistle anywere anytime and she will sit, which is handy as i found out today, its maybe me who is to keen and want to teach her something new, but i will hang on and wait a few months, , ive watched gun dogs and trainers for years, but never had my own gun dog, so ive got a slight idea how to go about things theres just a few things that am unsure of, once again thanks for the advice , ,

 

atb,

[gonetoearth 5,144]

THE GO BACK command get your dog retrieving in straight lines using a hedge or ditch as guidance , walking with you dog to heel stop drop a dummy so your dog can see, then carry on walking with you dog to heel , walk 20 0r so feet away stop give the command to sit or hup which ever you use , then proceed to walk away turning to re-impose the command sit with a hand signal of the palm of the hand facing the dog , proceed to walk away a further 20 ft stop turn round reimpose the sit command , then calmly raise you hand with the hand signal of a pushing motion and the voice command GO BACK with the memory of the dummy being dropped your dog should turn and go back , if you have problems shorten the distance between you and your dog ,if it fails go back to basic retrieve and try again another day all ways end your training on a positive , don't over do any training all so throw a dummy get your dog to sit and you go and pick it up , teaching your dog that not all retrieves are his, whilst getting him used to the stay command , at this stage 5 in 15 dummy's should be picked up by your dog, dogs get bored keep the sessions short

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THE GO BACK command get your dog retrieving in straight lines using a hedge or ditch as guidance , walking with you dog to heel stop drop a dummy so your dog can see, then carry on walking with you dog to heel , walk 20 0r so feet away stop give the command to sit or hup which ever you use , then proceed to walk away turning to re-impose the command sit with a hand signal of the palm of the hand facing the dog , proceed to walk away a further 20 ft stop turn round reimpose the sit command , then calmly raise you hand with the hand signal of a pushing motion and the voice command GO BACK with the memory of the dummy being dropped your dog should turn and go back , if you have problems shorten the distance between you and your dog ,if it fails go back to basic retrieve and try again another day all ways end your training on a positive , don't over do any training all so throw a dummy get your dog to sit and you go and pick it up , teaching your dog that not all retrieves are his, whilst getting him used to the stay command , at this stage 5 in 15 dummy's should be picked up by your dog, dogs get bored keep the sessions short

 

 

thanks for the advice, thats something that i havent been doing, i have been letting her retreive the dummy everytime, i will start to change this now, , i will get her use to this idea 1st before the get back command i thinks, i always show her the palm of my hand for sitting, which she is just as good at doing than the whistle, thanks again,

 

[Catcher 1 639]

about a month ago i got given my 1st ever gun dog/ beating dog, , she is a lab x cocker ( accidental mating ) but looks a very tidy little bitch, she is now 7 1/2 month old and doing well with basic training, walking to heal, retrieving dummy which has a pair of partridge wings tied to it, recall whistle, stop whistle, even when hunting up, and is just picking up on hand signals, she will also sit and stay while i walk out and throw the dummy out and not move until told, ( very pleased so far ) took her on her 1st day beating on saturday, as am in charge of the beating line i got to choose where i could go, , so picked hedges that normally holded a few birds but that was out the way, of any other dogs plus cover, , , she hunted up perfect putting birds up and recalled everytime i asked her to do even when there was birds right in front of here, i let her watch birds go over the guns and other dogs pick them, , but choose not to let her have ago just yet,

 

question, what age roughly do you let your dog start to retrieve game ?

 

plus the "get back" command, how do you teach a dog to "get back" ??

 

i have lurchers and terriers that i work alot but finding alot of pleasure watching this bitch work,

 

thanks in advance,

 

 

Good for you mate .your dog seems to be coming on a a treat.? you say get back what are you asking the dog to do.atb.catcher

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about a month ago i got given my 1st ever gun dog/ beating dog, , she is a lab x cocker ( accidental mating ) but looks a very tidy little bitch, she is now 7 1/2 month old and doing well with basic training, walking to heal, retrieving dummy which has a pair of partridge wings tied to it, recall whistle, stop whistle, even when hunting up, and is just picking up on hand signals, she will also sit and stay while i walk out and throw the dummy out and not move until told, ( very pleased so far ) took her on her 1st day beating on saturday, as am in charge of the beating line i got to choose where i could go, , so picked hedges that normally holded a few birds but that was out the way, of any other dogs plus cover, , , she hunted up perfect putting birds up and recalled everytime i asked her to do even when there was birds right in front of here, i let her watch birds go over the guns and other dogs pick them, , but choose not to let her have ago just yet,

 

question, what age roughly do you let your dog start to retrieve game ?

 

plus the "get back" command, how do you teach a dog to "get back" ??

 

i have lurchers and terriers that i work alot but finding alot of pleasure watching this bitch work,

 

thanks in advance,

 

 

Good for you mate .your dog seems to be coming on a a treat.? you say get back what are you asking the dog to do.atb.catcher

 

yea coming on great, and GET BACK i mean when i send her for a bird/dummy and she is only working close in, when the object she is after is further away but she doesnt realise this, so the command GET BACK is used to signal her to get back, more or less,

 

someone else will be able to explain better,

 

am sure i was dropped as a young un, , ,

 

atb

[gonetoearth 5,144]

it all depends on the type of work you want your dog to do picking up dogs

would use the go back more than a bushing dog i think in your case , STOP ON

THE WHISTLE AND ON A GUN SHOT WOULD BE MY AIM , ALSO BACK TO HEEL

USING THE WHISTLE SHORT PEEPS , ANY WAY GOOD LUCK YOU ONLY GET OUT

WHAT YOU PUT IN ,

[Catcher 1 639]

about a month ago i got given my 1st ever gun dog/ beating dog, , she is a lab x cocker ( accidental mating ) but looks a very tidy little bitch, she is now 7 1/2 month old and doing well with basic training, walking to heal, retrieving dummy which has a pair of partridge wings tied to it, recall whistle, stop whistle, even when hunting up, and is just picking up on hand signals, she will also sit and stay while i walk out and throw the dummy out and not move until told, ( very pleased so far ) took her on her 1st day beating on saturday, as am in charge of the beating line i got to choose where i could go, , so picked hedges that normally holded a few birds but that was out the way, of any other dogs plus cover, , , she hunted up perfect putting birds up and recalled everytime i asked her to do even when there was birds right in front of here, i let her watch birds go over the guns and other dogs pick them, , but choose not to let her have ago just yet,

 

question, what age roughly do you let your dog start to retrieve game ?

 

plus the "get back" command, how do you teach a dog to "get back" ??

 

i have lurchers and terriers that i work alot but finding alot of pleasure watching this bitch work,

 

thanks in advance,

 

 

Good for you mate .your dog seems to be coming on a a treat.? you say get back what are you asking the dog to do.atb.catcher

 

yea coming on great, and GET BACK i mean when i send her for a bird/dummy and she is only working close in, when the object she is after is further away but she doesnt realise this, so the command GET BACK is used to signal her to get back, more or less,

 

someone else will be able to explain better,

 

am sure i was dropped as a young un, , ,

 

atb

 

 

Hi mate let her see you drop it.Start at about 10 or 20 yards and go from there.The dog will soon learn. Five month old lurcher

 

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it all depends on the type of work you want your dog to do picking up dogs

would use the go back more than a bushing dog i think in your case , STOP ON

THE WHISTLE AND ON A GUN SHOT WOULD BE MY AIM , ALSO BACK TO HEEL

USING THE WHISTLE SHORT PEEPS , ANY WAY GOOD LUCK YOU ONLY GET OUT

WHAT YOU PUT IN ,

 

 

she will hopefully be used mainly for beating, but if she comes good then she will come with me rough shooting/ducking, e,t,c so the get back signal will be a handy command ? ?

 

am not being big headed here but she is very good at basics, i,e, recall, heal work, stop/sit, sit/stay, e,tc, she has picked up alot of little things very quickly such as, throw out my palm of hand in her direction and she will sit, she will also do this with one short blast on the whistle, two short blasts and she on her way back no matter what she doing, once back if am not moving she will sit by my side, if am still walking she will automaticaly come to heal, , once to heal if i stop she sits, just little things like that really, am just going to keep up with the basics as obviously she is still a pup, , i wil post some pictures up when i get chance, dont worry gonetoearth there will be plenty more questions from me,

 

cheers

[gonetoearth 5,144]

it all depends on the type of work you want your dog to do picking up dogs

would use the go back more than a bushing dog i think in your case , STOP ON

THE WHISTLE AND ON A GUN SHOT WOULD BE MY AIM , ALSO BACK TO HEEL

USING THE WHISTLE SHORT PEEPS , ANY WAY GOOD LUCK YOU ONLY GET OUT

WHAT YOU PUT IN ,

 

 

she will hopefully be used mainly for beating, but if she comes good then she will come with me rough shooting/ducking, e,t,c so the get back signal will be a handy command ? ?

 

am not being big headed here but she is very good at basics, i,e, recall, heal work, stop/sit, sit/stay, e,tc, she has picked up alot of little things very quickly such as, throw out my palm of hand in her direction and she will sit, she will also do this with one short blast on the whistle, two short blasts and she on her way back no matter what she doing, once back if am not moving she will sit by my side, if am still walking she will automaticaly come to heal, , once to heal if i stop she sits, just little things like that really, am just going to keep up with the basics as obviously she is still a pup, , i wil post some pictures up when i get chance, dont worry gonetoearth there will be plenty more questions from me,

 

cheers

THE MAIN WORRY FOR ANy KEEPER IS DOGS RUNNING IN AND SCATTERING THE BIRDS.simply tricks if you have access to ckickens or tame rabbits to have around to practise with her , sit and stay, she sounds steady but the real thing on a shoot day is a differant thing is she a cocker cross or springer, how to stop running in if is occures keep a lead over your shoulder with her at heal if she darts forward one sharp crack will bring her attention to her fault , dont get in to the habit of badgering her all the time saying heal heal heal once is enough if the wanders a sharp shake on the ear will again bring her attension to her job , when you stop she sits. in the beating line controll is everthing and once she runs in not many keepers will trust you with her again ,to many people thow dummy after dummy, while sit stay and heal work is important, Edited October 27, 2009 by gonetoearth

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

it all depends on the type of work you want your dog to do picking up dogs

would use the go back more than a bushing dog i think in your case , STOP ON

THE WHISTLE AND ON A GUN SHOT WOULD BE MY AIM , ALSO BACK TO HEEL

USING THE WHISTLE SHORT PEEPS , ANY WAY GOOD LUCK YOU ONLY GET OUT

WHAT YOU PUT IN ,

 

 

she will hopefully be used mainly for beating, but if she comes good then she will come with me rough shooting/ducking, e,t,c so the get back signal will be a handy command ? ?

 

am not being big headed here but she is very good at basics, i,e, recall, heal work, stop/sit, sit/stay, e,tc, she has picked up alot of little things very quickly such as, throw out my palm of hand in her direction and she will sit, she will also do this with one short blast on the whistle, two short blasts and she on her way back no matter what she doing, once back if am not moving she will sit by my side, if am still walking she will automaticaly come to heal, , once to heal if i stop she sits, just little things like that really, am just going to keep up with the basics as obviously she is still a pup, , i wil post some pictures up when i get chance, dont worry gonetoearth there will be plenty more questions from me,

 

cheers

THE MAIN WORRY FOR ANy KEEPER IS DOGS RUNNING IN AND SCATTERING THE BIRDS.simply tricks if you have access to ckickens or tame rabbits to have around to practise with her , sit and stay, she sounds steady but the real thing on a shoot day is a differant thing is she a cocker cross or springer, how to stop running in if is occures keep a lead over your shoulder with her at heal if she darts forward one sharp crack will bring her attention to her fault , dont get in to the habit of badgering her all the time saying heal heal heal once is enough if the wanders a sharp shake on the ear will again bring her attension to her job , when you stop she sits. in the beating line controll is everthing and once she runs in not many keepers will trust you with her again ,to many people thow dummy after dummy, while sit stay and heal work is important,

 

ive seen how mad the keepers get once a dog had f****d a drive by running in, last saturday she was kept on the lead in many places were there was alot of birds, she hunts fairly close when am out training her but like you say its a totally diffrent thing once out on a shoot day, got access to a rabbit pen for training dog and chickens, ive had her close to chickens a few shakes on her ear and she soon settled down, , quite a few times when out training she has put up rabbit/hare, there was only once she attempted to run as my lurcher pup gave chase, she did stop and sit after a strong no ! and a blast on the whistle, other times she just sits and watches them run on, she is a cocker x lad, just looks like a small lab, , our next shoot day is on sat so she will be coming along to watch, fingers crossed,

[Dave C 63]

Sounds like your pup is coming on well for you mate.

She sounds an interesting Cross, do you have any pics of her that you could put up.

 

Dave.