artic 595 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 we dont have a written constitution like the americans whereby their rights are enshrined in law.for example the right to bear arms etc.we also (and i think a lot of people dont realise this)are not citizens but are subjects which is quite another matter No we dont have a written constisution but as men we should have a moral one.atb.Catcher There is a little document called the Magna Carta, we as british people are born free, but obliged to live by the rule of law, under the rule of law we have the right to trial by jury, and Habius corpus. This system has been envied and copied by every democracy in the world, however it is now almost completly surrendered to Brussels and the EU. Is that as far as it goes ? Trial by jury and habeus corpus , I mean ... For example, let's say a cop pulls you over and wants to search your car, you do not give permission ...what then ? Or can he pull you over simply to search your car ? He's supposed to have a valid reason. Before he stops you he's got to radio to get permission to stop you. The Criminal justice act 1994, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Just..._Order_Act_1994 gave the police more rights with regard to stop and search, and make it easier for them to carry it out. No permission needed, however the factors needed are grounds,facts, intel or even the way you are behaving to stop a vehicle, i.e a traffic offence. Police can enter property without a warrant in a number of situations. Reasonable grounds are needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 we dont have a written constitution like the americans whereby their rights are enshrined in law.for example the right to bear arms etc.we also (and i think a lot of people dont realise this)are not citizens but are subjects which is quite another matter No we dont have a written constisution but as men we should have a moral one.atb.Catcher There is a little document called the Magna Carta, we as british people are born free, but obliged to live by the rule of law, under the rule of law we have the right to trial by jury, and Habius corpus. This system has been envied and copied by every democracy in the world, however it is now almost completly surrendered to Brussels and the EU. Is that as far as it goes ? Trial by jury and habeus corpus , I mean ... For example, let's say a cop pulls you over and wants to search your car, you do not give permission ...what then ? Or can he pull you over simply to search your car ? He's supposed to have a valid reason. Before he stops you he's got to radio to get permission to stop you. The Criminal justice act 1994, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Just..._Order_Act_1994 gave the police more rights with regard to stop and search, and make it easier for them to carry it out. No permission needed, however the factors needed are grounds,facts, intel or even the way you are behaving to stop a vehicle, i.e a traffic offence. Police can enter property without a warrant in a number of situations. Reasonable grounds are needed. They do need permission to stop a car, unless there's something obvious like a brake light out or there's a suspicion you are pissed or on drugs. They need to radio HQ to get a stop code. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 we dont have a written constitution like the americans whereby their rights are enshrined in law.for example the right to bear arms etc.we also (and i think a lot of people dont realise this)are not citizens but are subjects which is quite another matter No we dont have a written constisution but as men we should have a moral one.atb.Catcher There is a little document called the Magna Carta, we as british people are born free, but obliged to live by the rule of law, under the rule of law we have the right to trial by jury, and Habius corpus. This system has been envied and copied by every democracy in the world, however it is now almost completly surrendered to Brussels and the EU. Is that as far as it goes ? Trial by jury and habeus corpus , I mean ... For example, let's say a cop pulls you over and wants to search your car, you do not give permission ...what then ? Or can he pull you over simply to search your car ? He's supposed to have a valid reason. Before he stops you he's got to radio to get permission to stop you. The Criminal justice act 1994, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Just..._Order_Act_1994 gave the police more rights with regard to stop and search, and make it easier for them to carry it out. No permission needed, however the factors needed are grounds,facts, intel or even the way you are behaving to stop a vehicle, i.e a traffic offence. Police can enter property without a warrant in a number of situations. Reasonable grounds are needed. They do need permission to stop a car, unless there's something obvious like a brake light out or there's a suspicion you are pissed or on drugs. They need to radio HQ to get a stop code. Maybe in Scotland but not in England and wales. Most of the time you can only make that decision when you actually speak to the drive, and to do this you must stop the vehicle in question. Routine stop check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 we dont have a written constitution like the americans whereby their rights are enshrined in law.for example the right to bear arms etc.we also (and i think a lot of people dont realise this)are not citizens but are subjects which is quite another matter No we dont have a written constisution but as men we should have a moral one.atb.Catcher There is a little document called the Magna Carta, we as british people are born free, but obliged to live by the rule of law, under the rule of law we have the right to trial by jury, and Habius corpus. This system has been envied and copied by every democracy in the world, however it is now almost completly surrendered to Brussels and the EU. Is that as far as it goes ? Trial by jury and habeus corpus , I mean ... For example, let's say a cop pulls you over and wants to search your car, you do not give permission ...what then ? Or can he pull you over simply to search your car ? He's supposed to have a valid reason. Before he stops you he's got to radio to get permission to stop you. The Criminal justice act 1994, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Just..._Order_Act_1994 gave the police more rights with regard to stop and search, and make it easier for them to carry it out. No permission needed, however the factors needed are grounds,facts, intel or even the way you are behaving to stop a vehicle, i.e a traffic offence. Police can enter property without a warrant in a number of situations. Reasonable grounds are needed. They do need permission to stop a car, unless there's something obvious like a brake light out or there's a suspicion you are pissed or on drugs. They need to radio HQ to get a stop code. Maybe in Scotland but not in England and wales. Most of the time you can only make that decision when you actually speak to the drive, and to do this you must stop the vehicle in question. Routine stop check. are you gutted artic , that you can not say , EVENING ALL no more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 we dont have a written constitution like the americans whereby their rights are enshrined in law.for example the right to bear arms etc.we also (and i think a lot of people dont realise this)are not citizens but are subjects which is quite another matter No we dont have a written constisution but as men we should have a moral one.atb.Catcher There is a little document called the Magna Carta, we as british people are born free, but obliged to live by the rule of law, under the rule of law we have the right to trial by jury, and Habius corpus. This system has been envied and copied by every democracy in the world, however it is now almost completly surrendered to Brussels and the EU. Is that as far as it goes ? Trial by jury and habeus corpus , I mean ... For example, let's say a cop pulls you over and wants to search your car, you do not give permission ...what then ? Or can he pull you over simply to search your car ? He's supposed to have a valid reason. Before he stops you he's got to radio to get permission to stop you. The Criminal justice act 1994, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Just..._Order_Act_1994 gave the police more rights with regard to stop and search, and make it easier for them to carry it out. No permission needed, however the factors needed are grounds,facts, intel or even the way you are behaving to stop a vehicle, i.e a traffic offence. Police can enter property without a warrant in a number of situations. Reasonable grounds are needed. They do need permission to stop a car, unless there's something obvious like a brake light out or there's a suspicion you are pissed or on drugs. They need to radio HQ to get a stop code. Maybe in Scotland but not in England and wales. Most of the time you can only make that decision when you actually speak to the drive, and to do this you must stop the vehicle in question. Routine stop check. are you gutted artic , that you can not say , EVENING ALL no more I'm sorry GUTTED you say? Why on earth shall i feel gutted? Evening all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 we dont have a written constitution like the americans whereby their rights are enshrined in law.for example the right to bear arms etc.we also (and i think a lot of people dont realise this)are not citizens but are subjects which is quite another matter No we dont have a written constisution but as men we should have a moral one.atb.Catcher There is a little document called the Magna Carta, we as british people are born free, but obliged to live by the rule of law, under the rule of law we have the right to trial by jury, and Habius corpus. This system has been envied and copied by every democracy in the world, however it is now almost completly surrendered to Brussels and the EU. Is that as far as it goes ? Trial by jury and habeus corpus , I mean ... For example, let's say a cop pulls you over and wants to search your car, you do not give permission ...what then ? Or can he pull you over simply to search your car ? He's supposed to have a valid reason. Before he stops you he's got to radio to get permission to stop you. The Criminal justice act 1994, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Just..._Order_Act_1994 gave the police more rights with regard to stop and search, and make it easier for them to carry it out. No permission needed, however the factors needed are grounds,facts, intel or even the way you are behaving to stop a vehicle, i.e a traffic offence. Police can enter property without a warrant in a number of situations. Reasonable grounds are needed. They do need permission to stop a car, unless there's something obvious like a brake light out or there's a suspicion you are pissed or on drugs. They need to radio HQ to get a stop code. Maybe in Scotland but not in England and wales. Most of the time you can only make that decision when you actually speak to the drive, and to do this you must stop the vehicle in question. Routine stop check. are you gutted artic , that you can not say , EVENING ALL no more I'm sorry GUTTED you say? Why on earth shall i feel gutted? Evening all. its been banned by the met as none pc , as in todays daily mirror Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Dosser 52 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dont have a go at artic, it will take a while to get over the "common purpose" training. sorry for the late reply, but ive been at work, its what we English do, dont you know. The point i was making about trial by jury etc etc, was that when the Lisbon treaty is ratified, we will loose all that and can be judged by a panel of beuracrats appointed by the unelected, unacountable European executive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dont have a go at artic, it will take a while to get over the "common purpose" training. sorry for the late reply, but ive been at work, its what we English do, dont you know. The point i was making about trial by jury etc etc, was that when the Lisbon treaty is ratified, we will loose all that and can be judged by a panel of beuracrats appointed by the unelected, unacountable European executive. Thats right dont............ Yes not long for my retirement, us british do work hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dont have a go at artic, it will take a while to get over the "common purpose" training. sorry for the late reply, but ive been at work, its what we English do, dont you know. The point i was making about trial by jury etc etc, was that when the Lisbon treaty is ratified, we will loose all that and can be judged by a panel of beuracrats appointed by the unelected, unacountable European executive. That's a scary thought... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 we dont have a written constitution like the americans whereby their rights are enshrined in law.for example the right to bear arms etc.we also (and i think a lot of people dont realise this)are not citizens but are subjects which is quite another matter No we dont have a written constisution but as men we should have a moral one.atb.Catcher There is a little document called the Magna Carta, we as british people are born free, but obliged to live by the rule of law, under the rule of law we have the right to trial by jury, and Habius corpus. This system has been envied and copied by every democracy in the world, however it is now almost completly surrendered to Brussels and the EU. Is that as far as it goes ? Trial by jury and habeus corpus , I mean ... For example, let's say a cop pulls you over and wants to search your car, you do not give permission ...what then ? Or can he pull you over simply to search your car ? He's supposed to have a valid reason. Before he stops you he's got to radio to get permission to stop you. The Criminal justice act 1994, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Just..._Order_Act_1994 gave the police more rights with regard to stop and search, and make it easier for them to carry it out. No permission needed, however the factors needed are grounds,facts, intel or even the way you are behaving to stop a vehicle, i.e a traffic offence. Police can enter property without a warrant in a number of situations. Reasonable grounds are needed. They do need permission to stop a car, unless there's something obvious like a brake light out or there's a suspicion you are pissed or on drugs. They need to radio HQ to get a stop code. Maybe in Scotland but not in England and wales. Most of the time you can only make that decision when you actually speak to the drive, and to do this you must stop the vehicle in question. Routine stop check. No such thing as a 'routine stop check', and if you were stopped and searched by a police officer with nothing more to say than that, he's breaking the law. I suggest you take a read here: http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/th...arch/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rod&dog Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 f**k the BNP . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 f**k the BNP . Thats what I was trying to say but I don't have the same way with words Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rod&dog Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) f**k the BNP . Thats what I was trying to say but I don't have the same way with words Tom What i dont like is the man wants britain to be completly white and 100 % english. Everyone whos lived here for years and years and had children have to go beacuse there not pure,, I was born in England but im not 100% bit of an irish cross Got friends who are black,, asian, chinease etc,, who where born in england why should they go? Edited October 26, 2009 by Rod&dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 f**k the BNP . Thats what I was trying to say but I don't have the same way with words Tom Classic reply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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