rspca

[The Ferret Tamer 1]

Basically they have gone from Animal welfare to Animal rights!

 

Just my opinion

 

FT

[6pack 60]

im a little bit confused with all the different opinions of the RSPCA. i read earlier on this site of a ferret that had been mis-treated, one of the members said "tell the rspca" which seems ok to me. then another thread was slagging nick griffin of for supporting them i know they are against things like hunting of any sort and any sort of bull cross ect. but without them dont you think there would be a lot more animal cruelty? we cant always have all our own way! animals are being left to starve, beaten, tortured, and trained to fight each other, where would the average man in the street go to report such things if there was no rspca? we need some sort of department to stop all these things or are we just supposed to let it go on ?i would be interested in peoples thoughts on this

 

The RSPCA are a charity, nothing more.

Any charity that wanted to take it upon themselves could act in the same manner. In fact, some do, but with out police style uniforms or bully tactics.

Many assume the ROYAL part of their acronym gives them special privileges, but it doesn't.

Many think the RSPCA have a right to enter property, to force the hand over of animals, but they don't.

Any prosecutions brought by the RSPCA are private prosecutions paid for by donated funds.

They have taken to barbaric tactics, using bolt guns used to stun livestock, to kill dogs.

Their headquarters, recently lavishly re carpeted, cost a small fortune, while smaller branches struggle for any aid.

They have lost track of themselves, become hypercritical, supporting the ban on bull breeds, attacking smaller rescues for daring to voice an opinion.

The Queen should be ashamed to put her name to them.

 

No one wants to see animal cruelty, but the RSPCA are not the ones for me.

[why jelly 0]

I'd say to phone the ARSPCA or the plod would be two wasted phone calls, one is a charity 100% full on and other feckers may as well be

 

Just my opinion for what it's worth

[Back Stabbath 1]

It seems to me that if you want any justice, you have to do it yourself. Can't trust charities, can't usually trust police or courts to do justice. Just look at how many murderers, rapists etc. get off scot free or with very little time. Hey I'm not supporting these organisations but the IRA and the Mafia in both Italy and America had ways of dealing with troublemakers. That sort of thing is on my mind at the moment because someone I know went to the rescue of his cousin who was being beaten up by 4 foreigners for no reason, when they turned on him and put him in intensive care. Life support machine was turned off yesterday and he's dead today. One of the guys was just 18 and in my year at school, I actually know him to see. No doubt they will get fcuk all time if any, in jail. The man was only 40 and had 3 kids. A bit off topic I know, but I dunno, I think people should demand justice, and stand up for their rights! Cos the police and organisations like SPCA are failing us and turning against us (e.g. people getting done for defending their property from thieves with weapons)

 

I used to support the ISPCA but to be honest I'd prefer to just do my bit in a hands on way such as rehabilitating a dog, or re-training dogs with potential, rather than giving money away to people who can do what they like with it. I don't trust any of those organisations. The SPCA seem to be turning into PETA from what I've read!

 

Oh well, whaddya gonna do...

[CarraghsGem 92]

only animal charitys i support are the dogs trust and wood green,

 

lost all respect for rspca years ago when they pts a litter of staffy pups because pups killed the runt they were only 9/10wks old i think, this was 15yrs ago approx.

any breeder of bull breeds knows you cant take your eye off them , rspca put them down because they thought they would turn into dangerous dogs and savage people, ffs

 

stupid + clueless + a bunch of anti's as well.

 

[mouse 282]

they gave a million pound to the government too help ban hunting then they beg on the tv for money to help save animals lives.that says it all.load of f*****g wankers.

[RicW 67]

Arsepac used to be a pretty decent bunch of people. Then about 10 - 12 years ago they were infiltrated by the LACS and, much worse, by the ALF. They are now run by a group of rabid antis who think they were being clever releasing mink into the wild. They bloody near wiped out otters which are a native species but who cares? Mink are furry little creatures. Right now they are supporting the right of invasive tree rats to destroy our native red squirrels. They are so stupid! They yap on about animal rights without realising that they are involved in destroying our natural economy.

 

Aar-gh-gh. Don't set me off on one!

[Dan Newcombe 58]

So if the RSPCA call and tell you there has been a report of cruelty and say they want to come and have a look then there is nothing they cal actually do if you politely tell them where to stick it?

 

A mate of mine got a call this morning from them, ive told him to tell them to bugger off. The dogs are in a stable with straw beds, 3 of them all in good condition an healthy

 

Dan

[mouse 282]

they cannot touch you mate.they cannot come on your property without the police present.

[oohmydog 82]

Years ago the rspca would help with rescues if the dog was stuck on land were the person had no permission ,if the dog could be heard or found with a collar and box they would pay for machines if they were needed and would sort the landowners out ,such was there credibility all they wanted was a donation and publicity .The fmwtc has no jurisdiction if the owner was trespassing ,i think this would still stand today which is good if your a terrier ,but not so good for the owner.i do think they have people who are out and out lacs but there are understanding officers as well .

[Urban Fox Control London 8]

The RSPCA rank names and rank insignia share similarity with British police ranks, which has led some critics (such as Chris Newman, chairman of the Federation of Companion Animal Societies ^[21] ) to suggest an attempt to 'adopt' police powers in the public imagination.

 

Against this suggestion it must be remembered that the 'bath star' and 'royal crown' are used in various combinations to identify British military rank, and have therefore been adopted by many organisations in British and Commonwealth nations to indicate ranks. The same series of rank markings are used not only by the RSPCA and the British police, but also by such disparate organisations as the British Army (who do have statutory powers) and the St John Ambulance Brigade (who, like the RSPCA, have no statutory powers).

 

It is of note that the history of the RSPCA goes back nearly two hundred years, indeed before there were uniformed police officers.

 

When Richard Girling of the Times newspaper asked about their lack of powers, a spokesman for the RSPCA said "We would prefer you didn't publish that, but of course its up to you". ^[21]

 

Chris Newman, chairman of the Federation of Companion Animal Societies, claimed that the RSCPA "impersonate police officers and commit trespass.

 

People do believe they have powers of entry"; ^[21] however, he did not produce any evidence of such impersonation of police officers^{[citation needed]}, and the Society strongly deny the charge.

 

Sally Case, head of prosecutions, insists that RSPCA inspectors are trained specifically to make clear to pet-owners that they have no such right. They act without an owner's permission, she says, "only if an animal is suffering in a dire emergency.

 

If the court feels evidence has been wrongly obtained, it can refuse to admit it". ^[21] .

 

RSPCA Inspectors do not receive training to impersonate police officers, they are legally obliged and do state to members of the public that they are not police officers.

 

The RSPCA logo is clearly visible on uniform worn by RSPCA officers, all carry RSPCA ID cards and their vans are also clearly liveried with the RSPCA logo.

 

It is also of note that RSPCA personnel may issue individuals with cautions using the exact or very similar wording to that of arresting police officers, i.e. "You do not have to say anything, but anything you do say will be taken down...." etc.

 

No statutory powers are required to issue a caution, indeed any person can do so under UK law and many non police organisations, statutory authorities and other agencies do regularly issue the caution.

 

RSPCA officers are trained to state, following giving the caution, that the person is "not under arrest and can leave at anytime."

Edited March 19, 2010 by Urban Fox Control London

[Cold Ethyl 63]

Theyre useless they pick on the wrong people.Ive had the sspca out here loads of times to check the dogs cos theyre skinny.They soon realise theyre lurchers and bugger off after theyve seen the pets and food etc.Mine are in the house and on good food well excercised duvets to sleep on in their bed etc etc.Theyre happy and clearly we have a great bond.Yet several of my neighbours have also had visits and f all been done despite clear neglect of their animals.I wont mention names but dogs left on their own for days at a time ferrets not fed for over a week and not cleaned for months.Hamsters left to kill each other and the lab who can hardly drag its carcuss along the street.Yet mention camo gear or a lurcher and woosh round here like they got a rocket up their a**e.The inspectors i have dealt with of late have been clueless re lurchers or ferrets or most other pets tbh.Been asked if i let the ferrest play with the rabbits when i had pet rabbits LMFAO eh no.or the ferret found here in a mess i cant keep it so phoned them cos no one else wanted an injured ferret and the lass was terrified i had to put it in the van for her.