lakeman 12 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I watched this with baited breath, only to be dissapointed to see that at no time was N.G. given a fair chance to answer many of the allegations that were tossed about, not only by the audience but the panel as well. The only time he was give a fair crack, was his response to Muslims in England. His response was, to the effect, when in Rome..... I have no objections to any person or persons visiting this country, but why they feel they have to try and change our culture really boils my p#ss. The BNP's views, althought some of them are a bit far right, are as the French... The French are for the French are for the French KEEP BRITAIN BRITISH RIGHT OFF MY SOAP BOX NOW Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Matt the rat not having a dig but any chance of commenting on what i said in regards to the bnp and rspca? With pleasure. You asked: matt you keep mentioning the bnp support the rspca, i dont think any party would say they dont support a charity set up to prevent creulty to animals. Think everyone on here loves animals, we just dislike the way the rspca conduct them self. Has the bnp said they want to give the rspca more power? I think you will find that you are wrong. Charities should stay out of politics, and the BNP have actively supported the RSPC@. If you go back to pages 1-3 of this thread, you will find the details of that. I agree that the RSPC@ was set up by well intentioned people, who had the interests of animals at heart. Let's not forget that it was the RSPC@ that put up a sizable cash prize for the inventor of a more humane rabbit trap back in the 1920's. Unfortunately, the organisation was infultrated by socialists in the 1970's who saw them as a great way of hitting back at what they percieved to be the 'hunting classes'. What followed, can only be described as a disgrace. The 'charity' used money that was given to it by well meaning people to campaign using advertising and other methods, against hunting. They have since 'lost the plot' and now kill many thousands of innocent animals because they can't afford to keep them due to the cost of the huge 'machine' that is now the organisation. They use powers that they've made up to promote animal rights, instead of animal welfare. They campaign against hunting with dogs, shooting, fishing, racing and tail docking, and the BNP support them in doing that. Take a read of some of the threads on here about the RSPC@, and then ask yourself why people would want to support them either directly, or indirectly. What the RSPC@ was set up for is nothing to do with what they now are..... And yes, I'd not vote for any politician that supported the continued persecution of the ethnic minority that is the fieldsports community. Link to post Share on other sites
lakeman 12 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 If you can't see the connection between the BNP and the Nazis, then you need to open your eyes a little more. Who posted the picture of the EDL march recently with all the morons doing the hitler salute? I think the connection between the BNP and the Nazis goes back to the days of the (extrmely far) right NF Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Could one or some of the BNP supporters on here explain to me what exactly constitutes being 'indigenous British'? I'm interested in knowing what one of these British Aboriginals looks like. Are they white? Born here? The child/grandchild of someone who was born here? If you're stuck for ideas, another well known leader once came up with a definition....... If you analyse all the current arguments being given by Griffin & Co at the moment, they sound familiar........ "They are taking over our country", "They do not want to integrate" "our problems are caused by them". To me the aboriginal British are a collection of different peoples, the Germainic tribes that came here 100's of years ago (Angles, Saxons, and Jutes), and the Picts and Celts. I think this because these are the people that for me first turned this place into it's own country rather than just a piece of land where people used to come and go, like the Romans who came and went. If you ask me what a British person is today, I'd say anyone that is born and raised here, that calls Britain home, someone that considers themselves as British and lives just as the majority of what our population does regardless of their colour. I don't consider most practicing Muslims or Jews to be British, yeah they may be British by law but by culture and by loyalty they put their faith before their adoptive country. Link to post Share on other sites
sprocket2 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Jack Straw is the real facist in sending thousands of muslims to their deaths in recent wars at the Brittish publics expense. It was a total disgrace last is night on question time watching somebody with different views being shouted down and interuptted constantly. This is not the Brittish way. BNP uprising has begun. Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Jack Straw is the real facist in sending thousands of muslims to their deaths in recent wars at the Brittish publics expense... Well yeah basically! Who's the worst, a man that says he doesn't agree with what Islam teaches but hasn't laid a finger on one let alone kill a Muslim, or the man that has blood on his hands over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with the killing of thousands of innocent Muslims. I completely agreed with Griffin when he said we should never have got involved in any war over in the middle east and that we should leave those in the middle east to their own devices. Link to post Share on other sites
glass22 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Matt You don't seem to be anwsering where the BNP are against hunting? You keep avoiding this issue? Lots of people support some of the RSPCAs work, but not all of it and we are not against hunting? So why would any party supporting the RSPCA mean they are against hunting? So where is it that the BNP are against hunting? To requote myself "Where have you read that the BNP oposes hunting? I support the RSPCA I've donated to them before, I've gotten animals off them, I think some of their work is great and I support that aspect of their work completely. But I don't disagree with hunting and supporting a cause is not always agreeing with them on every point infact I disagree with them on many. Just like I don't agree with the BNP or any other politcal party on every issue." So let us know Matt? or do you want a day or so, to go and ask on the BBC website? Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Matt You don't seem to be anwsering where the BNP are against hunting? You keep avoiding this issue? Lots of people support some of the RSPCAs work, but not all of it and we are not against hunting? So why would any party supporting the RSPCA mean they are against hunting? So where is it that the BNP are against hunting? To requote myself "Where have you read that the BNP oposes hunting? I support the RSPCA I've donated to them before, I've gotten animals off them, I think some of their work is great and I support that aspect of their work completely. But I don't disagree with hunting and supporting a cause is not always agreeing with them on every point infact I disagree with them on many. Just like I don't agree with the BNP or any other politcal party on every issue." So let us know Matt? or do you want a day or so, to go and ask on the BBC website? For the third time; go back and read the whole thread! Why would I need to ask anything on the BBC website? And to answer part of your question, I do think that anyone who supports the RSPC@ is therefore supporting the anti-hunting lobby. Link to post Share on other sites
glass22 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Soo are you going to keep avoiding anwsering? or just stop posting soon? Just give me a link to the BNP saying there anti hunting. Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Matt You don't seem to be anwsering where the BNP are against hunting? You keep avoiding this issue? Lots of people support some of the RSPCAs work, but not all of it and we are not against hunting? So why would any party supporting the RSPCA mean they are against hunting? So where is it that the BNP are against hunting? To requote myself "Where have you read that the BNP oposes hunting? I support the RSPCA I've donated to them before, I've gotten animals off them, I think some of their work is great and I support that aspect of their work completely. But I don't disagree with hunting and supporting a cause is not always agreeing with them on every point infact I disagree with them on many. Just like I don't agree with the BNP or any other politcal party on every issue." So let us know Matt? or do you want a day or so, to go and ask on the BBC website? Come on Matt it's only fair, answer the question me ol' pal. Link to post Share on other sites
sprocket2 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 The BBC (The Proproganda Channel) have score a massive own goal on question time, thinking that the British public would fall for that rigged audience all probably paid by labour and conservative. I'm not racist, only seeing these lands being dissolved. Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Our Nick.You should have named old nick.Because if the BNP ever get any power in this country we are going strait to hell.I cant Take it in that some fools would vote BNP just to get hare coursing back.This is a so called political party that denied the holocaust ever took place.They support hitler the Nazis and every thing they stood for.This organisation is bunch of racist who are going on the opinion that is they stop the import of foreigner and to some degree i agree.I think we have took our fare share.But to let the BNP Take control of our country would be madness.Like the Nazis said now we have the power we will never let it go.That cost 40 to 50..000.000 lives in six years.Just remember that before you vote.Because of your creed, race,religion they could be hunting you.Catcher Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 WHEN the RSPCA office in Chippenham Road in Harold Hill was closed, local residents turned to the British National Party to ask for help. A deputation approached Mark Logan, the BNP councillor for Gooshays ward on Havering Council, and asked him if he could do anything to get the office opened again. Mark contacted the newly appointed Chief Executive of the RSPCA, Mark Watts, to find out the exact reasons behind the closure: “I wrote to Mr Watts and Gregory Brown, the RSPCA Branch Development Advisor for the South East, and got a prompt response,†Mark told Freedom, the BNP’s monthly newspaper. “It transpired that the branch was in urgent need of finance, and the office had become dilapidated, was in need of refurbishment.†Since his election back in February, Mark has been busily engaged in setting up Community Action Team. This is a group of volunteer tradesmen – decorators, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, builders and odd job men – who offer their services free of charge to those Gooshays residents who need vital work done but are unable to afford it. The Community Action Team have already helped an elderly resident with some minor construction works, and carried out a small refurbishment for another. Now they have agreed to help renovate the RSPCA building for the charity. To help finance the project there was a 10,000 BNP leaflet drop in Harold Hill with a full page highlighting to plight of the RSPCA Office and Mark has been delighted with the response from the public. “It’s looking promising,†he said. “Over £100 was raised on the first day alone. Whilst the office is closed an audit is being conducted and once that has been completed the upgrading work can start. “Thanks to the British National Party, the RSPCA office in Chippenham Road will hopefully re-open again soon, and this time it will be on a much firmer financial footing.†Keep up to date with all the BNP news. Take out a subscription to Freedom here. More news and views on Freedom editor Martin Wingfield’s blog here. Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 All you BNP and 'Griffin the Holocaust Denier' fans should be aware that they support the RSPCA and think they should have MORE powers..... I'm looking forward to question time too. I've a shrewd idea that people will see Griffin for the man he really is. I'd be interested in seeing you substantiate (not trans substantiate, that's just f.ucking silly) that statement. Show me evidence and I'll believe you. It was rumoured that NG is of Irish Roman Catholic descent too. Maybe then not the best person to lead a party that promote indigenous rule. Sorry SS, but I really can't face another 'trawl' through their hate filled website, but here is one quote (off their site) BNP refurbishes RSPCA office despite the Tories saying it wouldn’t happen. Also, here is part of their wiki entry, which I'm sure they would have edited if it was wrong: The party supports animal welfare (such as the banning of Halal and Kosher slaughtering and the phasing out of factory farming) and environmental policies, supporting Greenpeace in its fight against Japanese whaling ships and the RSPCA's campaign against the docking of dogs' tails.. Halal slaughter fine, but docking? It's pretty much what the BNP are about. Find some policies that the majority will agree with (free TV for veterans in hospitals, Halal, etc) and use them to 'mask' the racial hatred that they are really interested in. I'm no 'loony left' person; I am worried about the overpopulation of this country, and do believe that there is too much immigration, but I'd never vote for facists as long as there is a hole in my arse. I do also think the BBC are right to allow him onto question time. The general public need as much exposure to these nazis as possible, so that the truth can be seen by all, and people realise just how nasty these people are. Link to post Share on other sites
glass22 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) Ok so what part of that mentions hunting? the BNP oposing hunting, or in any way shape or form the BNP not agreeing with hunting? I've donated to the RSPCA a bunch of times myself, it doesn't stop me snaring, shooting etc. I mean if we all want to make points like you Matt Heres mine "The BNP fully support hunting and will reinstate it in full" ^^ I just made that up.......but I guess that's the way you do things ey Matt? Edited October 23, 2009 by glass22 Link to post Share on other sites
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