Our Nick

[John Keswick 119]

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This whole 'indigenous' british thing is a red herring, which has been designed to move the media focus away from the white supremacists who are still very prevalent in the organisation. You cannot compare America and Australia to britain as they were only discovered a few centuries ago, whereas Britain has been the subject of immigration and emigration for 17000 years.

 

 

If you actually believe that Matt, then the government of the past couple of decades have done a good mind job on you, OR you are a immigrant yourself.

I did think you looked a bit suspect when i met you, but didnt like to say anything

 

I make my own mind up.

 

The only thing the last twelve years has shown me is that the british electorate is very gullible. That is what worries me about the BNP.

 

 

Fair enough, and I agree the public are sheep, they believe everything they are told by our "leaders" or newspapers.

But whether you or I like it or not, there is an overwhelming feeling that too many "different" type of people are coming to this country and changing things too quickly. People by their nature hate change, and to change a countries landscape (inner city landscape) and normal way of life in just a couple of decades is in my opinion too fast. I have driven through London on several nasty occasions and I found it quite unbelievable that one minute I was in England, then the next I just as well have been in Iraqi!

Now I can honestly hold my hands up and say that I do not believe myself to be racist, I buy my smokes from the nearest shop, I really don’t care if that shop is owned by someone of Asian, or "paki" (as they are fondly know as around here) origin.

But when a whole part of city/town/area is deemed to be a no go area for whites/blacks/multifecking coloured and someone that is used to reading English signs cannot understand where the feck they are, then something has taking a wrong turn. I think you will agree with me on that.

 

I have had friends that were black, Asian, and on a Friday night fecking green! I don’t hold any malice towards any particular race, but I think enough is enough, our country is more than overcrowded and its time our "leaders" had the balls to say right, "that’s enough"

If they did do that (which they wont because they are weak) it would take the wind right out of the BNP's sails and we might be getting on the right track!

 

However I do think that the politicians having felt the mood of this country and GOT IT WRONG, will leave it too late and Powell’s "rivers of blood" speech may yet come to fruition.

 

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

I agree with you, but I do NOT believe that voting for people who do the nazi salute, and want to 'repatriate' others is the answer.

 

Taking the argument to the other extreme, does that mean that you are against sunday trading, abortion, contraception, and pubs opening on sundays?

 

The problem is that we've had 12 years of pseudo-socialism, and the BNP are using that to their advantage to pretend to be a 'normal' political party. What is hiding behind that façade is a gang of white supremacists, who want to inflict their warped sense of justice on our now mixed race population.

 

It's too late to change the make up of our nation, although I do think that all future immigration should be stopped, and we should decide to either be Christian, or Secular.

 

I'm not voting for them! but I am at a loss as who to vote for? simply because I dont trust any of them. Who are you voting for?

 

I think repatriation of immigrants in the manner in which he describes is a good thing. If they're not professionals that are over here to bring something of some worth to the country then they'll be given the chance to go back to the country they originate from, why is that such a bad thing?

 

He's already said that making Britain 100% white is an impossible task, and he isn't out to seek that (no matter what he may personally want with regards to an all white Britain) It is an impossible task for the very reason of all the race mixing that has gone on and he knows that.

 

As for taking the argument the other way, I'm no crony Christian, so I'm not after a sabbath making abortion and contraception illegal, I understand where you're going with those questions. I think the UK evolving into a secular state is a good thing but at the same time we should still hold many of our values and traditions dear to us that really did set us apart from the rest of the world at one point.

 

I'm talking about basic common courtesy, having and understanding what respect really is, having a bit of consideration for others, not losing our traditional local dialect, not losing our traditional songs, poems, food, recipes and things like that.

 

The biggest contributing factor to us losing all of this is the Americanization of this country I think, its ruining our culture I feel even more so than any immigrants communities are in this country at the minute.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

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The only thing the last twelve years has shown me is that the british electorate is very gullible. That is what worries me about the BNP.

 

I don't think the British electorate is very gullible, I just think they're tired of being treated like shit by those who say they have their best interests at heart, when they've lied and cheated them in the past.

 

Gullible would be to go back and vote for those that have shit on you in the past because they say they wont do it this time IMO.

[Matt 160]

I agree with you, but I do NOT believe that voting for people who do the nazi salute, and want to 'repatriate' others is the answer.

 

Taking the argument to the other extreme, does that mean that you are against sunday trading, abortion, contraception, and pubs opening on sundays?

 

The problem is that we've had 12 years of pseudo-socialism, and the BNP are using that to their advantage to pretend to be a 'normal' political party. What is hiding behind that façade is a gang of white supremacists, who want to inflict their warped sense of justice on our now mixed race population.

 

It's too late to change the make up of our nation, although I do think that all future immigration should be stopped, and we should decide to either be Christian, or Secular.

 

I'm not voting for them! but I am at a loss as who to vote for? simply because I dont trust any of them. Who are you voting for?

 

I think repatriation of immigrants in the manner in which he describes is a good thing. If they're not professionals that are over here to bring something of some worth to the country then they'll be given the chance to go back to the country they originate from, why is that such a bad thing?

 

He's already said that making Britain 100% white is an impossible task, and he isn't out to seek that (no matter what he may personally want with regards to an all white Britain) It is an impossible task for the very reason of all the race mixing that has gone on and he knows that.

 

As for taking the argument the other way, I'm no crony Christian, so I'm not after a sabbath making abortion and contraception illegal, I understand where you're going with those questions. I think the UK evolving into a secular state is a good thing but at the same time we should still hold many of our values and traditions dear to us that really did set us apart from the rest of the world at one point.

 

I'm talking about basic common courtesy, having and understanding what respect really is, having a bit of consideration for others, not losing our traditional local dialect, not losing our traditional songs, poems, food, recipes and things like that.

 

The biggest contributing factor to us losing all of this is the Americanization of this country I think, its ruining our culture I feel even more so than any immigrants communities are in this country at the minute.

 

 

I agree with nearly everything you say, especially the 'Americanisation' of our country.

 

For me, hunting, the economy, mass immigration and traditional Christian values are important. That's why I'll be voting conservative.

 

The fear, with parties like the BNP is that they want to 'categorise' people into 'indigenous' and 'not wanted'. By doing so, they will effectively be saying that some people are better than others. That, no matter what the decision is based on (and I suspect that it will be mainly colour) is in my opinion, wrong.

 

The only reason that people fear other religions is that they have been allowed to think that they are dangerous. They will only be dangerous if we try and oppress them. By all means stop them from having equal status to Christianity, but do not try and oppress them.

 

I understand that there are people who for whatever reason cannot bring themselves to vote Conservative. It's a shame after all these years, but I suppose that's life. If you cannot vote for any of the main parties, please do not vote for the BNP as some sort of protest. Spoil your ballot paper (that way your vote still counts), but do not vote for the BNP.

[Malt 379]

Well, I recorded the program and just watched it back. I'm not BNP supporter, but that program looked set out solely for the purpose of rubbishing them.

[dare 1,103]

matt you keep mentioning the bnp support the rspca, i dont think any party would say they dont support a charity set up to prevent creulty to animals. Think everyone on here loves animals, we just dislike the way the rspca conduct them self. Has the bnp said they want to give the rspca more power?

 

Like i said id much rather things stay how they are than become an islamic country. Proof of this for me is what i see...speacil events such as swimming days for only muslims...if they want to come here why seperate them selfs from us and expect us to change for them.

 

Like it or not hunting is a hobbie...being an islam country would be our life and those of future genorations...i think thats more important.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

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The only reason that people fear other religions is that they have been allowed to think that they are dangerous. They will only be dangerous if we try and oppress them. By all means stop them from having equal status to Christianity, but do not try and oppress them.

 

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I agree with a lot of what you're saying but I don't agree with this.

 

Religion is dangerous IMO, Islam (for instance) does teach violence and breeds it, that is fact, their book even reads it.

 

In saying that I think our Western culture as they like to call it (Americanized culture I call it) allows violence to be preached through music and videos and the like, which a lot of kids take on board and want to turn into a reality. There's more kids about now (regardless of race) that want to be the next Tupac Shakur or the next 50 cent, rather than being someone that actually contributes to society.

 

The only difference is, is that me as a westerner is sat here admitting to whats wrong with my system and would like to see it progress and improve, where as the Islamic followers will not dare allow anyone to question their system and wont even consider trying to improve or develop it into something better.

[night moocher 41]

Jack straws opening statement was a cracker [ world war 1/2 we had asian pakistan african and all manner of troops fighting WITH us, what he failed to say was now some of them are fighting against us in the very country that they live in .ENGLAND.

time and people are changing enough is enough,stop imigration and find all the illegals and bogus asylum seekers and send them back.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

...if they want to come here why seperate them selfs from us and expect us to change for them.

 

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For me, that is basically it in a nutshell!

 

Why come here if you don't agree with our customs our culture or our life style? The only reason is, is because there is money involved and a health service for them to rape if they make their way over here, no other reason, other than PROFIT!!!

 

There is a minority of them that are accustomed to our ways, but it is a majority from what I've seen.

[lanesra 3,994]

That yellow fecker jack straw sayin that labour arent goin to cap imigration is the final nail in labours coffin, conservatives slaggin N.G. for talkin to gadaffi, wasnt it them who allowed the killer of a british policewoman to return to libiya ? i watch this programme on a regular basis and whenever a politician condems the war in iraq he gets the full support of the audience, when N.G. mentioned this there wasnt the normal response proved the audience was biased from the start, mmmm jack straws father jailed for refusin to fight for his country, am i right thinkin when he was home secretary he refused to release tony martin, jailed for defendin himself in his home ? could it be in the straw family defendin your home / country is alien too them, no wonder he hates N.G.... seein how not 1 person in that room was for N.G. i think he handled it well givin the circumstances and will recieve a lot of support for havin the bottle to go on there tonight knowin he was throwin himself into the lions den, as someone has said the people tend to turn to the underdog. just a thought did the producers have a seatin arrangement in the audience black,white, asian.

[dare 1,103]

what do you lot think the bnp can do to get more votes? Making people more aware of how over taken weve become imo aswell as making it clear they are fine with people of any race or religion. As long as they adapt to our ways and benefit the country.

 

Police attackd at riots outside...shows how the tree huggers really want whats best for britian...they cant even respect it.

[artic 595]

That is a disgusting reference to the empire that shamefully England was once.

 

Why is it shameful that England was once a great empire?..........I am very proud of all that the British have done in our great (and long) history.

 

Back when we were an empire, people viewed things in a much simpler manner or rather, they saw things for what they really were............

 

Anyway, back to the topic..........Matt makes a very good argument and I agree with lots of what it says, but where it all falls down is that people genuinely feel the way they say and no amount of telling them its wrong will make them feel any less alienated in their own country will it.

 

Personally, some may think the BNP extreme, but I dont think they are extreme enough and I aint talking about skin colour

 

They are waterd down clowns playing the race card because an amount (not all) of there core support comes from the very people that this country could well do with sticking up the chimney

 

The British Empire in itself is not the shameful fact, I was answering specifically the comment about the Aborigines and the comparison to the white English male in this country becoming a minority. That comparison is a disgusting shortsighted view that exposes an even greater ignorance. The Aborigines were exterminated and literally worked to death in labour camps once the immigration of western Europe settled and took power.

 

In light of this I do think many actions of the Empire were shameful, most countries who successfully navigated the industrial revolution proceeded to enslave the developing world for their own profit. I am proud of my country's socialist approach to health, education and social welfare and indeed it's acceptance of other race and cultures. Does anyone know a person under the age of 18 who does not like curry? Obviously a simplistic example of embracing new cultures, but food is high on the list!

 

The colour and diversity our country can celebrate is just shat on by these neanderthals in the BNP, who don't comprehend the benefits of immigration (in reality a huge workforce for unskilled labour).

 

It is our own weak cultural adoption of US superficiality at fault here - families who kick their kids onto the street or set them up in front of their playstations so they're values are learned on the street and not from good role models in the home or classroom.

[craigyboy 1,274]

should of been put to air in a bnp strong haul not west london,i will be voting bnp now and yes that interview changed my mind well done nick,

 

 

he took a good @rse rapein .... but never the les he's got my vote

 

Can I ask why?

 

Is it their immigration policy?

 

Or could it be that they support the RSPC@?

 

No true hunting supporter could seriously support the BNP could they?

you keep harping on about the rspca...how many of you voted labour,when you knew they would ban hunting no true hunting supporter would have voted labour

Edited October 23, 2009 by craigyboy

[donk 12]

I was watching this 'question time' at work last night,but guess who was watching it more intently than me? The jam spoons and fig rolls.

 

Im no racist but it looks to me that the nation is pissed off,time for the political leaders to stop talking and do something positive about immigration

[Guest dbull86]

They have been asked by the military to stop using or should i say abusing our military past in there advertising, our lads fought against Hitler , the bnp are Nazis supporters, were is the sense in that ?

no way,they are not nazi supporters,i agree they cant run a country but they should have a minorty in parliament