Hybrids

[Parabuteos lad 878]

what is the craze over hybrid falcons about, why hybrids why certain hybrids

why not plain old pure perregrines or pure gyrs etc.

[Kat 3]

Same reason as lurchers.. bypass nature in an attempt to produce a superbeast. Potentially drawing in the very best aspects of different purebreds.

[BEARINATOR 2,872]

Kat does hybrid vigour come in to it as i rekindled my interest in harris hawks on saturday due to a trip out with a male harris hawk, the lad who owns the bird was on about a peregrine cross but i can't remember the other bird

Edited October 20, 2009 by BEARINATOR

[Kat 3]

Kat does hybrid vigour come in to it as i rekindled my interest in harris hawks on saturday due to a trip out with a male harris hawk, the lad who owns the bird was on about a peregrine cross but i can't remember the other bird

 

Heck im no expert on falcons, I tried to give a fair answer without getting terribly complicated lol

You'd have to ask someone much more experienced in falcons than me about hybrid vigour. I guess it must occur in some ways.

Theres a heck of a price difference in a Gyr falcon hybrid than a pure Gyr and the potential health issues lessen too. Pere/sakers are ace on landfil in other words theres certain preferred hybrids for various reasons.. horses for courses

Edited October 20, 2009 by Kat

[CityHunter.uK 12]

Kat does hybrid vigour come in to it as i rekindled my interest in harris hawks on saturday due to a trip out with a male harris hawk, the lad who owns the bird was on about a peregrine cross but i can't remember the other bird

 

Heck im no expert on falcons, I tried to give a fair answer without getting terribly complicated lol

You'd have to ask someone much more experienced in falcons than me about hybrid vigour. I guess it must occur in some ways.

Theres a heck of a price difference in a Gyr falcon hybrid than a pure Gyr and the potential health issues lessen too. Pere/sakers are ace on landfil in other words theres certain preferred hybrids for various reasons.. horses for courses

 

 

Hybrid vigor does exist in hybrid falcons yes but its not in all of them also you're spot on with the cost implications too. Hybrid falcons are paired up in a bid to get the traits that we want for the work or gamehawking we intend to fly. We also hybridise birds to make them hardier for the uk climate. This helps to reduce the risks of wing tip odema but does not cure it as poor care can get wing tip in a native falcon such as the peregrine

 

PereSakers great persuit falcons greedy little buggers so quite easy to control happy to pass the lure as they are to kill when the opportunity presents.

GyrSakers had one needed an awful lot of manning big bird imprssive to see flying again used as a pursuit falcon as opposed to a game hawk. Wing beat is not effective as a deterent bird as it is too slow in comparrison to the Peregrine or peregrine hybrids.

I fly hybrids but I am not that up on them in terms of gamehawking as I use my birds for persuit falconry and deterent work.

[Foxy09 3]

Kat does hybrid vigour come in to it as i rekindled my interest in harris hawks on saturday due to a trip out with a male harris hawk, the lad who owns the bird was on about a peregrine cross but i can't remember the other bird

 

Heck im no expert on falcons, I tried to give a fair answer without getting terribly complicated lol

You'd have to ask someone much more experienced in falcons than me about hybrid vigour. I guess it must occur in some ways.

Theres a heck of a price difference in a Gyr falcon hybrid than a pure Gyr and the potential health issues lessen too. Pere/sakers are ace on landfil in other words theres certain preferred hybrids for various reasons.. horses for courses

 

 

Hybrid vigor does exist in hybrid falcons yes but its not in all of them also you're spot on with the cost implications too. Hybrid falcons are paired up in a bid to get the traits that we want for the work or gamehawking we intend to fly. We also hybridise birds to make them hardier for the uk climate. This helps to reduce the risks of wing tip odema but does not cure it as poor care can get wing tip in a native falcon such as the peregrine

 

PereSakers great persuit falcons greedy little buggers so quite easy to control happy to pass the lure as they are to kill when the opportunity presents.

GyrSakers had one needed an awful lot of manning big bird imprssive to see flying again used as a pursuit falcon as opposed to a game hawk. Wing beat is not effective as a deterent bird as it is too slow in comparrison to the Peregrine or peregrine hybrids.

I fly hybrids but I am not that up on them in terms of gamehawking as I use my birds for persuit falconry and deterent work.

 

Any pics of your pursuit Falcons???

[higgins 75]

intereting thread,but what are the different types i.e; pursuit(i imagine it is where the bird is to follow and catch their prey)

Game(possibly bolting for the bird or any other game on land)

Deterent(scaring off other predator birds perhaps?)

i am least qualified to comment on the different types,but i would like to learn,

Higgins.

[Foxy09 3]

Kat does hybrid vigour come in to it as i rekindled my interest in harris hawks on saturday due to a trip out with a male harris hawk, the lad who owns the bird was on about a peregrine cross but i can't remember the other bird

 

Heck im no expert on falcons, I tried to give a fair answer without getting terribly complicated lol

You'd have to ask someone much more experienced in falcons than me about hybrid vigour. I guess it must occur in some ways.

Theres a heck of a price difference in a Gyr falcon hybrid than a pure Gyr and the potential health issues lessen too. Pere/sakers are ace on landfil in other words theres certain preferred hybrids for various reasons.. horses for courses

 

 

Hybrid vigor does exist in hybrid falcons yes but its not in all of them also you're spot on with the cost implications too. Hybrid falcons are paired up in a bid to get the traits that we want for the work or gamehawking we intend to fly. We also hybridise birds to make them hardier for the uk climate. This helps to reduce the risks of wing tip odema but does not cure it as poor care can get wing tip in a native falcon such as the peregrine

 

PereSakers great persuit falcons greedy little buggers so quite easy to control happy to pass the lure as they are to kill when the opportunity presents.

GyrSakers had one needed an awful lot of manning big bird imprssive to see flying again used as a pursuit falcon as opposed to a game hawk. Wing beat is not effective as a deterent bird as it is too slow in comparrison to the Peregrine or peregrine hybrids.

I fly hybrids but I am not that up on them in terms of gamehawking as I use my birds for persuit falconry and deterent work.

 

Any pics of your pursuit Falcons???

 

No??

[jasper65 6]

there's some great attributes with some Hybrids but some other pairings you just have to say "Whats the point in that"? there some silly one's about like Pere x Kestrel, Prairie x Kestral, Goshawk x Buzzard!! its horses for courses obviously but none of these rock my boat....

 

Some Hybrids are well suited, Perlins have proved themselves time and time again as have Peregrine x Prairie which have plenty of balls in the field taking on the prairies aggresion, without doubt the Pere/Prairie was one of my Favourites like the last one I had in 2001 getting fit in the pictures! although I must admit to only flying two other Hybrids, Pere/Saker and a Gyr/Saker all at crows....

 

Jasp