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I agree with what you say Glenn. But surely worker to worker when possible is more lightly to get the results that people on this site would want. And not to offer a non working dog up for stud on a w

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

 

 

where abouts in S.W. are you? I'm in cornwall and used to keep a few plummers. And YES they were used to ground all you doubters!

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

 

 

where abouts in S.W. are you? I'm in cornwall and used to keep a few plummers. And YES they were used to ground all you doubters!

im just outside bath in the sticks mate.....i dont know but the ratting has been seriously sparse round here this year,no bumper days yet...roll on the shit weather.

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

Hi mate i have a plummer bitch, wyremead amd legion lines, im from south wales

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

 

 

where abouts in S.W. are you? I'm in cornwall and used to keep a few plummers. And YES they were used to ground all you doubters!

I guess that must be BM ALL used to ground hmmmmmmm

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

 

 

where abouts in S.W. are you? I'm in cornwall and used to keep a few plummers. And YES they were used to ground all you doubters!

I guess that must be BM ALL used to ground hmmmmmmm

hi brainy...glad to hear from ya ....carefull tho, they dont like plummers much on here...apparently you shouldnt breed plummer terrier coz theyre all shite.

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

 

 

where abouts in S.W. are you? I'm in cornwall and used to keep a few plummers. And YES they were used to ground all you doubters!

I guess that must be BM ALL used to ground hmmmmmmm

hi brainy...glad to hear from ya ....carefull tho, they dont like plummers much on here...apparently you shouldnt breed plummer terrier coz theyre all shite.

I still like Plummers but as I said this is an earthdog and working terrier site why would you offer a non working dog up to stud? This is IMO the reason most terrier men/women don't like them!!! Because of people like you the Plummer will continue to suffer.

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

 

 

where abouts in S.W. are you? I'm in cornwall and used to keep a few plummers. And YES they were used to ground all you doubters!

I guess that must be BM ALL used to ground hmmmmmmm

hi brainy...glad to hear from ya ....carefull tho, they dont like plummers much on here...apparently you shouldnt breed plummer terrier coz theyre all shite.

I still like Plummers but as I said this is an earthdog and working terrier site why would you offer a non working dog up to stud? This is IMO the reason most terrier men/women don't like them!!! Because of people like you the Plummer will continue to suffer.

 

I was about to say that I think steviemanns problem wasnt with youre plummer as such Gazza, its just that it isnt really the thing to do ie offering a dog at stud which hasnt proved itself in one way or another. iI am not saying you havent got a

beautiful specimen of a plummer terrier but having said that Many women would have said (pre closet) that George Michael was a beautiful specimen of a man and look wqhat trouble that would have gotten them into. Youre dog is Wyremeade bred so chances are it will do pretty much as you ask given the corrrect training and time. Getting back to the dog being at stud , thats one of the problems owners of a dog and bitch have and that is kennel blindness , thinking their dogs are beauties and breed willy nilly there by breeding dogs from non proven workin g stock and the result is often a detriment to the breed. A pic was put up recently on WPT forum site of a Plummer that in my opinion looked like a freak, I was slated for my opinion and other people then started posting how lovely the pup wsas which really confused me, anyway stick with youre Wyremeade dog , work him andthen when he does the biz you wont have to advertise him... people will come flocking, cheers Ted

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Any other guys on here have a plummer terrier?....stunning little dogs,hard working and very loyal........i think im the only owner of one in the entire southwest,never seen one other than mine in this neck of the woods...was maybe thinking of putting mine out to stud and get the breed going stronger....i beleive the nearest breeder (reputable) was norfolk where mine came from.

 

 

where abouts in S.W. are you? I'm in cornwall and used to keep a few plummers. And YES they were used to ground all you doubters!

I guess that must be BM ALL used to ground hmmmmmmm

hi brainy...glad to hear from ya ....carefull tho, they dont like plummers much on here...apparently you shouldnt breed plummer terrier coz theyre all shite.

I still like Plummers but as I said this is an earthdog and working terrier site why would you offer a non working dog up to stud? This is IMO the reason most terrier men/women don't like them!!! Because of people like you the Plummer will continue to suffer.

 

I was about to say that I think steviemanns problem wasnt with youre plummer as such Gazza, its just that it isnt really the thing to do ie offering a dog at stud which hasnt proved itself in one way or another. iI am not saying you havent got a

beautiful specimen of a plummer terrier but having said that Many women would have said (pre closet) that George Michael was a beautiful specimen of a man and look wqhat trouble that would have gotten them into. Youre dog is Wyremeade bred so chances are it will do pretty much as you ask given the corrrect training and time. Getting back to the dog being at stud , thats one of the problems owners of a dog and bitch have and that is kennel blindness , thinking their dogs are beauties and breed willy nilly there by breeding dogs from non proven workin g stock and the result is often a detriment to the breed. A pic was put up recently on WPT forum site of a Plummer that in my opinion looked like a freak, I was slated for my opinion and other people then started posting how lovely the pup wsas which really confused me, anyway stick with youre Wyremeade dog , work him andthen when he does the biz you wont have to advertise him... people will come flocking, cheers Ted

:clapper: I'm not the only one who objects to breeding non working dogs. It's been said on here time and time again!!!

Just look at what the Kennel Club has done to spoil working dogs by breeding for looks.

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Well thats a shame its lads in your line or work Stevie that could show the world how good they really are.

 

With 1000 registred in over 20 years half of wich are dead no doubt leaving 500. im sure there are some not so good ..and I know there are some superb earth dogs.

 

But i doubt its the dogs as you say thats the problem its the marketing as an all rounder that hinders the title earth dog.

 

20 plus years ago many used them for earth work myseldf included but even back then the limits of finding earth work without risks of prosecution were hard.

 

After answering the phone for 20 years most lads even today are amateur weekend hunters how many times can you garuntee earth work on the weekend.?..not many even if you find yourslef "off the footpath"

 

 

But with a new breed they have to multi task as the amount of people wanting earth dogs nowadays is tiny...for the breed to survive soley as earth dogs is impossible.

I think if my Charlie was still alive he would've improved the breeds reputation, I've no doubt about that. Especially as I'm now lucky enough to be out three to four times a week.

As an allrounder you not find IMO a better breed.

That pup looks strong, what a corker. Would've found it hard to turn that one down. But as they've got popular the price has risen the same as the Border prices did.

 

Yes you are lucky (and so am i) for such work but like i said its a tiny fraction of the terrier lads who are so. And with no disrepect to you stevie ...we are now a dog down who didnt pass on his abilities. This happens so much with plummers they get worked so much that they end up dead ..myself included ive lost over 4 to ground 20 years9one with a prof hunt) and one youngster that was to be a stud with a mate who didnt listen about working fox. He worked the dog at 12months to fox on the fens and set my project back 5 years at least....he claims its still to ground lol.His aunty survived and is in my pedigrees.

 

Well the pup above is now in cumbria but hes nothing compared to my 13month old boy and his sister.

 

Yes prices are different from some so called expert breeders ... depends were you go stevie i dont think you would have been ripped off at £225 which is my price for a micochipped docked and no quibble money back garuntee for life complete with pedigree.

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