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[zak-s410 0]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

[SEAN3513 7]

you might struggle to get a centre fire without prior experience.

 

also depends on the ground you will be using it on and what you will be shooting with it.

 

cheers

 

sean

[Eric The Dog 0]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

hi there what will you be shooting ie rabbits,fox,deer etc because that will give people an idea of what calibre to recommend you,

[RicW 67]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

For your first FAC you are only going to get rimfire. Go for .22lr, ask for HMR. TBH, if you ask your FEO for a .223 as a first gun, he might decide that you know so little about firearms that you should not have a ticket at all. Frankly, I agree. Go for FAC air to start with.

 

Ric

[Eric The Dog 0]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

For your first FAC you are only going to get rimfire. Go for .22lr, ask for HMR. TBH, if you ask your FEO for a .223 as a first gun, he might decide that you know so little about firearms that you should not have a ticket at all. Frankly, I agree. Go for FAC air to start with.

 

Ric

 

 

just to note that our situations, experience and qualifications might be very different but i was granted a .22/.17/.222/.243.308 all on first aplication. within the last 5 years so it is possible to get what you want first time!

[Eric The Dog 0]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

perhaps go with a .22lr and a 22 hornet or .17wmr/hmr to start with and progress from there to the centrefires after a bit of use and experience.

[RicW 67]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

perhaps go with a .22lr and a 22 hornet or .17wmr/hmr to start with and progress from there to the centrefires after a bit of use and experience.

 

Agreed. Take small steps.

 

Ric

Edited October 18, 2009 by RicW

[SNAP SHOT 194]

I'd personally say start of with a .22 lr, learn the basics cut your teeth on it, main reason is you won't pick up so many bad habbits learning on a calibre that is easy on recoil, noise etc. it's also a calibre that will challange your marksmanship skills at relatively short ranges... Its also cheap to shoot which means you can get lots of prctice in for a relatively little price,

Not the same if you shoot a centre fire....

 

All the best.

 

 

Snap.

[cbw 4]

I feel snap is on the right path, I was in the same boat a couple of years ago!

 

If I were to do it again I would apply for, .22 lr, .17hmr and shotgun.

 

I mostly regret not adding the shotgun at the same time as my FAC....Please make sure you dont make the same mistake!!!

 

Keep us posted!

 

CBW

[hw100sniper 2]

Ive had my section 1 for 11month now but was advised not even to ask for a c/f at application but to wait at least 6 months to go for 22-250 etc .Got the 22lr and 17hmr no probs (that is all id ask for on application form just enquired at visit on c/f) just giving 17hmr long range day time shooting ,22lr as silent lamping rifle.

 

 

Atb Billy

[Deker 3,478]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

For your first FAC you are only going to get rimfire. Go for .22lr, ask for HMR. TBH, if you ask your FEO for a .223 as a first gun, he might decide that you know so little about firearms that you should not have a ticket at all. Frankly, I agree. Go for FAC air to start with.

 

Ric

 

Ric...we all have our own preferences and our own experiences, mine seem a little different to yours in part!

 

First question in response to thread is..What do you intend to do with it?

 

A Centrefire is not impossible on a first application, I know of several! That is not to say I agree, especially for some, who certainly have no real concept of the power of these things!

 

Think very carefully before going down FAC air rifle route, I have one, but I also have a lot of other tools, likelyhood is FAC Air will be VERY expensive, have limited use and have a very bad residual!

 

ATB

Edited October 18, 2009 by Deker

[hiluxmk3 1]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

For your first FAC you are only going to get rimfire. Go for .22lr, ask for HMR. TBH, if you ask your FEO for a .223 as a first gun, he might decide that you know so little about firearms that you should not have a ticket at all. Frankly, I agree. Go for FAC air to start with.

 

Ric

If you have experiance and have good reason for being granted the calibre you ask for, they have to grant you it or they have to explain why you cant have it

 

 

just to note that our situations, experience and qualifications might be very different but i was granted a .22/.17/.222/.243.308 all on first aplication. within the last 5 years so it is possible to get what you want first time!

[sounder 9]

I'd personally say start of with a .22 lr, learn the basics cut your teeth on it, main reason is you won't pick up so many bad habbits learning on a calibre that is easy on recoil, noise etc. it's also a calibre that will challange your marksmanship skills at relatively short ranges... Its also cheap to shoot which means you can get lots of prctice in for a relatively little price,

Not the same if you shoot a centre fire....

 

All the best.

 

 

Snap.

i agree fully,

[RicW 67]

right lads im going to apply for an fac. I dont really know alot about bullet guns.

iv had airguns since i could pick one up tho.

 

could anyone give me an idea of what gun i should think about getting?

 

iv looked at a Remington vl ss Thumbhole .223 on this website and it looked the dogs.

 

Is this a gun i should be looking at as a beginner or should i look at different gun

 

regards zak.

 

For your first FAC you are only going to get rimfire. Go for .22lr, ask for HMR. TBH, if you ask your FEO for a .223 as a first gun, he might decide that you know so little about firearms that you should not have a ticket at all. Frankly, I agree. Go for FAC air to start with.

 

Ric

 

 

Ric...we all have our own preferences and our own experiences, mine seem a little different to yours in part!

 

First question in response to thread is..What do you intend to do with it?

 

A Centrefire is not impossible on a first application, I know of several! That is not to say I agree, especially for some, who certainly have no real concept of the power of these things!

 

Think very carefully before going down FAC air rifle route, I have one, but I also have a lot of other tools, likelyhood is FAC Air will be VERY expensive, have limited use and have a very bad residual!

 

ATB

Deker - you're right of course.

 

My prejudices are showing. I've heard too many smart-arse little townie brats yapping on about shooting sparrows and songbirds then bragging about what they'd do with a "bullet gun". The lad who started this thread is not in that area but the phrase "bullet gun" gets my hackles up and puts me into attack mode!

 

Revised version goes as follows.

 

A .223 centrefire is not likely to be granted as a "first gun". If you are moving up from air rifles to powder burners then your best bet is to apply for .22 rimfire as your first firearm. Think about what you want it for. Rabbits at longer range than you can take with air? Should be no problem. Pest bird species ON THE GROUND up to 50 yds? OK. Grey squirrels ON THE GROUND up to 50 yds no problem. Just remember that you will have a visit from your FEO. If you get asked the famous trick question "What would you do if you saw a crow in a tree?" The correct reply is "Ignore it". Although there are exceptions the rule with rifled firearms is YOU NEVER FIRE UPHILL. 22lr can be lethal to humans at 400 yards.

 

ATB to ZAK!

[jamie g 17]

get 22lr and hmr. and you could allways ask your flo if you could ad 223 in in say six months time. your chances would be even greater if you went shooting someone that has centrefire. who could guide you