UNFIT 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Put an official complaint in. Then just see what happens. did any one ever tell you that you was DE,ARESTED ,before they let you go .if not and you was not charged ,you are still under arrest and should not be walking the streets ,you can get them in a lot of shit over this ,if you want to play them at their own game ,plus do them for wrongfull arrest .if you do take action ,you will find that they wont jump the gun so quick next time . i didnt hear the custody officer de arrest me come to think of it,, i might take it a bit futher, i think i will go and see a solicitor on monday, i really hadnt been poaching or anything, and i havent done anything wrong, so i think they made a wrongfull arrest. i have just had a phone call from my mate, and he told me that 3 other lads were also aprehended at thirsk early this morning, at bagby near the bottom of sutton bank, but they were only spoken too and then told to leave the area. get the solicitor to ask for the written report what happend ie the arresting officers note book ,and if it states they did not de arrest you ,then they are in deep shit from their superiours for not carrying out their job properly ,it might not sound much to u but take it from me they wont like it one bit . the arresting officer is the only one that can de,arrest you ,because he arrested you in the first place ,so he would have had to be the one to say it to you . Quote Link to post
SMOGGY 34 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Nightmare cocker, but to be honest i've only had good experiences with north yorkshire police, although its stokesley coppers not thirsk, I alway have a bit of crack with them and then continue on, Yarm fairs on at the moment and police have been increase in the area, due to all the travellers, it could just be that their from a different police force just covering. Hope it all gets sorted smoggy Quote Link to post
Guest lavyheed Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) Feckin :wankerzo4: Have a word with your brief.(sp) Edited October 17, 2009 by lavyheed Quote Link to post
AL BUNDY 45 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Put an official complaint in. Then just see what happens. Its a long & winding road taking this action & lets face it,you would'nt get any satisfaction................only hassle. doesnt matter how long and winding the road is take them all the way .get it in the papers ,go to your mp /councellors there a bunch of spineless b*****ds Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) hi unfit, FACT: i was formally arrested and cautioned. FACT: the "arresting officer" 100% definatley, did not speak to me after the arrest, or back at the police station, neither did i speak to the "arresting officer" at anytime after the arrest was made, of that i am absolutley certain, then at the police station in northallerton north yorkshire, i was asked to give my name address D.O.B, and where i worked,i was read my right,s by the custody officer, but told i would not be kept more than a few minutes, (i declined the phone call or speaking to a solicitor,as i new that this was going nowhere), FACT; after the custody officer refused to take me into custody, in front of the arresting officer, all i was asked to do was to sign to say, i had been given my property back, which was confiscated from me at the scene, and that was only wallet and some rolling tobbacco, and as i said before i had definatley not being poaching, or crossed any land, i know its hot round here, but my main piece of mitigation would be i actually live here and have to walk my dog somewhere, i was less than 1 mile away from my house, the coppers knew this aswell when they did the persons check on me, if i was from 20 or 30 miles away and had no reason for being on that road at midnight with a (lurcher looking type dog) i could understand them being suspitious and maybe having a word with me, but they had done the persons check before they arrested me, and knew i lived there, i am not wanted for anything or anything like that, cocker Edited October 17, 2009 by cocker Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) FACT: i was formally arrested and cautioned. FACT: the "arresting officer" 100% definatley, did not speak to me after the arrest, or back at the police station, neither did i speak to the "arresting officer" at anytime after the arrest was made, of that i am absolutley certain, FACT; after the custody officer refused to take me into custody, in front of the arresting officer, all i was asked to do was to sign to say, i had been given my property back, which was confiscated from me at the scene, and that was only wallet and some rolling tobbaccothen just hope his note book dont say any different ,dont let you solicitor mention any thing about de,arrest untill you have seen it ,just ask to see the note book of the arresting officer .and go from there,and hope your solicitor is up to his job ,and dont try to fob you of with some lame excuse not to proseed . Edited October 17, 2009 by UNFIT Quote Link to post
jackard 36 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 there seams to be a big clamp down this year on the dogging job . i think its about time we organized a very large social all over the country with all dogging lads . bring out the lamps walk the land and leave the dogs at home , shine the fcuk out of every where , get the coppers, the choppers out in force and waste there time and keep doing it every night until they start to back off just idea but it may just work atb jackard Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) hi unfit, FACT: i was formally arrested and cautioned. FACT: the "arresting officer" 100% definatley, did not speak to me after the arrest, or back at the police station, neither did i speak to the "arresting officer" at anytime after the arrest was made, of that i am absolutley certain, then at the police station in northallerton north yorkshire, i was asked to give my name address D.O.B, and where i worked,i was read my right,s by the custody officer, but told i would not be kept more than a few minutes, (i declined the phone call or speaking to a solicitor,as i new that this was going nowhere), FACT; after the custody officer refused to take me into custody, in front of the arresting officer, all i was asked to do was to sign to say, i had been given my property back, which was confiscated from me at the scene, and that was only wallet and some rolling tobbacco, and as i said before i had definatley not being poaching, or crossed any land, i know its hot round here, but my main piece of mitigation would be i actually live here and have to walk my dog somewhere, i was less than 1 mile away from my house, the coppers knew this aswell when they did the persons check on me, if i was from 20 or 30 miles away and had no reason for being on that road at midnight with a (lurcher looking type dog) i could understand them being suspitious and maybe having a word with me, but they had done the persons check before they arrested me, and knew i lived there, i am not wanted for anything or anything like that, cocker that is why the custody officer would not take you into custody ,they had nothing on you and he knew it ,other wise they would have held you and looked into things ,to see if any one had seen some one actualy poaching or commiting a crime along those lines ,then let you out with or with out a charge to come back at a later date to find out the out come ,.with a good brief you got them by the balls .the thing to remember is the police have not got a clue about the law on hunting ,but like they tell us ignorance is not a excuse .they should learn all about it if they intend to enforce it . Edited October 17, 2009 by UNFIT Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 then just hope his note book dont say any different ,dont let you solicitor mention any thing about de,arrest untill you have seen it ,just ask to see the note book of the arresting officer .and go from there,and hope your solicitor is up to his job ,and dont try to fob you of with some lame excuse not to proseed . I was locked up without being arrested just overnight, would nt accept a caution so had to appear at court, I got a solicitor met him outside the court for the first time, he read the charge sheet and went off came back and they(the prosecution) were phoning their office for guidance they put out a call for my solicitor and when he came back he said " you can go no case to answer" "if you want to take it further give us a ring" Of course I did, he asked to see video footage of bridewell and the officers statements, these were duly seen by my ex and daughter who confirmed it was nothing like what the statements said, so far so good, I did nt qualify for legal aid though PROBLEM although I had witnesses and evidence the solicitor was nt willing to carry on with the case unless I could give them £8,000 to fund my case Like you I'd done nothing wrong but because I could nt hand over £8,000 there was no case against these officers Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 well lucky for me, on friday (yesterday) i left my job, at 14.30 pm, and on monday i will be entitled to legal aid, so i havent got a thing to lose, i dont care what happens, but if anything does come of this and it makes the police think, before doing this again then no matter how small we have achieved something, nothing ventured nothin gained............ cocker Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 if you dont want to use a brief ,then write to the police complaints dept ,you can get a leaflet from the police station ,and some one will come and see you ,then just ask them to get the arresting officers note book for you to see ,and if it is not in order ,then let them continue with the complaint about not being de,arrested ,and being arrested for no reason ,they will get the same result as a brief ,like i said it realy will piss them of . and you wont have to part with any money . Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 will keep you posted mate Quote Link to post
Meerihunter 7 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Thats a real piece of crap, getting lifted walking your dog along from your house. I would of probably landed myself in more trouble if they had tried to take my dog away. Quote Link to post
Toka 10 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Cocker...just to let you know...it doesnt have to be the officer who arrested you that has to de arrest you.....any other officer can de arrest you once you have been arrested. [it usually would be but not in allcases and as they all have the same powers it doesnt have to be] it sounds very much like an unlawful arrest, from what you have said, confirmed by the fact that the custody officer wouldn't authorise your detention...think you have a good case for unlawfull arrest and detention [as you were kept some time]...think it is still paid at about £1000 per hour you were detained!!! ATB Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dont take this the wrong way cocker but if you have got any previouse convictions for poaching related offences you might be flogging a dead horse as I can vouch for this due to an incident were i claimed for criminal compansation.atb dell Quote Link to post
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