vader 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 As above please fellas, thinking of getting rid of my cz ans 223 and getting a blinding hmr to sit my 20x50 conquest on. Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 if you want a top one get a cooper steve. none will be much more accurate then each other. i have a annie as you no and its got your old bushnell scope on it. you should see the bull's i was hitting today Quote Link to post
vader 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Nice one Jame, quick on here eh???!!! Any links to some reviews???? Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Nice one Jame, quick on here eh???!!! Any links to some reviews???? look on google mate. your welcome to come try mine and see for yourself Quote Link to post
vader 0 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Chris is trying my hummer tomoz, I'll keep you posted. Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Chris is trying my hummer tomoz, I'll keep you posted. im sure he will sort it out Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 As above please fellas, thinking of getting rid of my cz ans 223 and getting a blinding hmr to sit my 20x50 conquest on. What do you intend to shoot with it and over what distances...is that 2 guns you are getting rid of or one..and is that a fixed mag 20x scope you are referring to? The HMR is no substitute for a .223! The HMR is VERY accurate in the right conditions, even my Silhouette HMR will deliver touching shots at 100 yards if I do my bit, so I struggle to understand why anyone would want to spend a fortune on one, it isn't noted as a target tool, so how are we defining BEST HMR? We all have different circumstances to deal with and preferences, so it usually comes down to personal choice. Quote Link to post
vader 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) As above please fellas, thinking of getting rid of my cz ans 223 and getting a blinding hmr to sit my 20x50 conquest on. What do you intend to shoot with it and over what distances...is that 2 guns you are getting rid of or one..and is that a fixed mag 20x scope you are referring to? The HMR is no substitute for a .223! The HMR is VERY accurate in the right conditions, even my Silhouette HMR will deliver touching shots at 100 yards if I do my bit, so I struggle to understand why anyone would want to spend a fortune on one, it isn't noted as a target tool, so how are we defining BEST HMR? We all have different circumstances to deal with and preferences, so it usually comes down to personal choice. Just getting fed up with wasting ammo down the barrell of my cz. 1 minute the groups at 100 yard are touching, the next there almost 2 inch groups, try'd it clean and dirty. Seems very inconsistent. I sell my rabbits so all need to be head shots. When you come back from a night of missing as many as you shoot you feel like binning it. Edited October 18, 2009 by vader Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 This is what i had to do to get mine shooting.... try and see if the barrel is free floating.... by sliding a piece of paper up between the barrel and stock to it touches the action. On most of the CZ American's there is a little sticky point on the right hand side, take the stock of the gun... sand where the barrel touches the stock, and then apply a coat of varnish and let dry.... they shoot best when mildly dirty.... and take a while to settle after cleaning... if you don't have it done already, change the trigger too.... for all of about 12 pounds from rimfire magic...... best of luck. Snap. Quote Link to post
vader 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) This is what i had to do to get mine shooting.... try and see if the barrel is free floating.... by sliding a piece of paper up between the barrel and stock to it touches the action. On most of the CZ American's there is a little sticky point on the right hand side, take the stock of the gun... sand where the barrel touches the stock, and then apply a coat of varnish and let dry.... they shoot best when mildly dirty.... and take a while to settle after cleaning... if you don't have it done already, change the trigger too.... for all of about 12 pounds from rimfire magic...... best of luck. Snap. Yep, done both. I shot a group under half inch on paper after mounting my zeiss, went out that night and hit everything shot at in the head. All of a sudden I start missing again, check on paper and groups are around 1 1/2 -2 inch. Boresnaked, still crap, Cleaned with rod and brush, still crap, 50 later still crap. Edited October 18, 2009 by vader Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 the last resort is to check all the fittings fixtures are tight. next is a good copper cleaning routine, as even though the .17 is a rimfire it still is pushing a fair velocity, hence leaving traces of copper in the barrel.... hope you get sorted... Snap. Quote Link to post
vader 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 the last resort is to check all the fittings fixtures are tight. next is a good copper cleaning routine, as even though the .17 is a rimfire it still is pushing a fair velocity, hence leaving traces of copper in the barrel.... hope you get sorted... Snap. Even checked the mounts before the last try, ran a bronze brush down the barrell then left it filled with kg12 for a while and patched through. I did this before and it solved the prob for about 50 rounds. If I need to full clean then put 50 rounds through it to get it on song its just unacceptable, even though i've put 50 through it since the last clean and the groups are still 1 1/2 inch. no good for me what so ever. Bloomin thing. Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 seems to me like its a copper problem then and you need to put some time in getting it sorted.... Also a good carbon remover too ... Snap. Quote Link to post
vader 0 Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 seems to me like its a copper problem then and you need to put some time in getting it sorted.... Also a good carbon remover too ... Snap. I'll leave it soaking in KG1 from, 8 til 1, then KG12 from 1.30 until 5 and test again. Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 get rid of it and buy a annie. Quote Link to post
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