UNFIT 0 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) I made my mind up a long time ago.You seem to think your the only one on here with more than afew seasons experience, your not and i doubt any one with a bit of knowledge will change the way they do things because of your writings,but there are a lot of newcomers who will think its ok to take there 3 month old pups hunting,not that i care, but i hate to see young dogs ruined.As would any dogman or women.i have looked at your profile and flicked through the post you have made ,you sound the real expert when it comes to lamping and working dogs , i would stick to the shooting if i was you ,because any one can point a gun and pull a trigger ,but to get the best from a dog ,well only a few have the know how . : :and i do agree with you about newcomers ,that is why i allways say you have to know what your doing ,or go out with some one that does . Edited October 24, 2009 by UNFIT Quote Link to post
kevin from bristol 95 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 A friend of mine has a first cross gsd x hound and it works well not as slow as you might thnk. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Thanks for looking at my profile,not much on it really talk is cheap and all that,No expert have lots of permission do a lot of hunting,worked with animals since leaving school.Ihave to work! My dogs not has good as yours obviously .would always give advice if i thought it might help, but there again wouldn't be scared to ask for it either,Think i read you would never need to because you know it all. Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) Thanks for looking at my profile,not much on it really talk is cheap and all that,No expert have lots of permission do a lot of hunting,worked with animals since leaving school.Ihave to work! My dogs not has good as yours obviously .would always give advice if i thought it might help, but there again wouldn't be scared to ask for it either,Think i read you would never need to because you know it all. when it comes to lurchers and lamping then yes i do know more than most ,even if i do blow my own trumpet ,if i did not think i was good at what i do ,i can assure you ,most of the welsh on here would soon let you know ,because i am known for what i do ,because i go out of my way to show others the best way ,in my opinion, to do things right with a dog and lamp .ie ,take them out . Edited October 24, 2009 by UNFIT Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 a lamp is only one part of a dogs life, hunting markin coursing, its childs play teaching a dog to lamp, hunting and coursin you cant teach the either bred that way or are not i like an allrounder that you can course lamp you cant teach that, to box ahare of the wood or roe or rabbit ,thats selective breeding mate, how do you teach a good dog to drop the gears pull a hare of a fence turn a fast roe of a wood there no fences localy so all coursing very few animals get caut with a fence to slow them down all middle of the feild or trying to push them of a wood to get a chance on them,i no alot of welsh lads il ask afew , we first started lamping as boys 15 year old by the time were were in our late teens hare etc and roe were caut salmon to pheasants of woods at nite i think there must be alot of non hunters or naive people on here , Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 a lamp is only one part of a dogs life, hunting markin coursing, its childs play teaching a dog to lamp, hunting and coursin you cant teach the either bred that way or are not i like an allrounder that you can course lamp you cant teach that, to box ahare of the wood or roe or rabbit ,thats selective breeding mate, how do you teach a good dog to drop the gears pull a hare of a fence turn a fast roe of a wood there no fences localy so all coursing very few animals get caut with a fence to slow them down all middle of the feild or trying to push them of a wood to get a chance on them,i no alot of welsh lads il ask afew , we first started lamping as boys 15 year old by the time were were in our late teens hare etc and roe were caut salmon to pheasants of woods at nite i think there must be alot of non hunters or naive people on here ,whin like you i have done my share ,but my biggest love is lamping , it is childs play to teach a dog to lamp ,to a certain standard ,but then ,most peoples dogs dont work like i get mine to ,and it all comes down to starting them early in life ,but as you can see ,others on this site only want a certain standard in their dogs so they say it is wrong what i and others do ,and it cant be achived to get a dog of 3 months to catch rabbits on the lamp .well they are wrong ,and it can be achived with most breeds of dog IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ,and i find the alsation x is a good type to do this with , Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 alsaition crosses dont cut it localy or half cross collies the percentage of greyhound some times to much wastage, localy a dog at three months aint catching fech all apart from a mixi and i dont call that a cacth ,maybe a rabbit fence hopper that panicks, all the land localy rabbits are either on winter wheat or stubble and the odd rape so pretty hard to get easy runs always near a hedge , and realy rabbs isnt a test, on most land localy its fast running and flushed game fast hares roe with no fences to stop good fully grown dogs tiol ,if your alsaitionis good bring him up for a nite and a day as im runing out of dogs to brreed to my old collie strain and not saw anything as good apart form saluk type ,ye bring the dog up and we can accomadate you with some of the best coursing youll see as scotland if you no were to go is good dog land the best probaly in the uk ive had several out they all liked it and went home happy Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 alsaition crosses dont cut it localy or half cross collies the percentage of greyhound some times to much wastage, localy a dog at three months aint catching fech all apart from a mixi and i dont call that a cacth ,maybe a rabbit fence hopper that panicks, all the land localy rabbits are either on winter wheat or stubble and the odd rape so pretty hard to get easy runs always near a hedge , and realy rabbs isnt a test, on most land localy its fast running and flushed game fast hares roe with no fences to stop good fully grown dogs tiol ,if your alsaitionis good bring him up for a nite and a day as im runing out of dogs to brreed to my old collie strain and not saw anything as good apart form saluk type ,ye bring the dog up and we can accomadate you with some of the best coursing youll see as scotland if you no were to go is good dog land the best probaly in the uk ive had several out they all liked it and went home happywhin i dont own a alsation x i just said i find them a good x i have had one and seen a few working ,i dont travel thanks all the same ,i can get more than enought just by walking out of my front door thanks for the offer ,some thing i dont get very often it is usualy the other way around . . .and i dont run pups or any other dog on mixi bunnies ,lol. Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 alsaition crosses dont cut it localy or half cross collies the percentage of greyhound some times to much wastage, localy a dog at three months aint catching fech all apart from a mixi and i dont call that a cacth ,maybe a rabbit fence hopper that panicks, all the land localy rabbits are either on winter wheat or stubble and the odd rape so pretty hard to get easy runs always near a hedge , and realy rabbs isnt a test, on most land localy its fast running and flushed game fast hares roe with no fences to stop good fully grown dogs tiol ,if your alsaitionis good bring him up for a nite and a day as im runing out of dogs to brreed to my old collie strain and not saw anything as good apart form saluk type ,ye bring the dog up and we can accomadate you with some of the best coursing youll see as scotland if you no were to go is good dog land the best probaly in the uk ive had several out they all liked it and went home happywhin i dont own a alsation x i just said i find them a good x i have had one and seen a few working ,i dont travel thanks all the same ,i can get more than enought just by walking out of my front door thanks for the offer ,some thing i dont get very often it is usualy the other way around . . .and i dont run pups or any other dog on mixi bunnies ,lol. What cross do you run? Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 dogs that catch game mate, old fashioned coli types and big strong greyhoundy saluks ,all home bred ,they all are pacy and when fit can do a shift bred them for years to do a job ,bred of some very good stock and kept them going breeding once in a while and reproducing there self ,hard job to keep it going tho Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,145 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Thanks for looking at my profile,not much on it really talk is cheap and all that,No expert have lots of permission do a lot of hunting,worked with animals since leaving school.Ihave to work! My dogs not has good as yours obviously .would always give advice if i thought it might help, but there again wouldn't be scared to ask for it either,Think i read you would never need to because you know it all. when it comes to lurchers and lamping then yes i do know more than most ,even if i do blow my own trumpet ,if i did not think i was good at what i do ,i can assure you ,most of the welsh on here would soon let you know ,because i am known for what i do ,because i go out of my way to show others the best way ,in my opinion, to do things right with a dog and lamp .ie ,take them out . Unfit; in previous posts you have said you only keep one dog at a time, and keep them for life !! So suppose you have had dogs for 40 years, (which I doubt), and the average age of the dogs you keep "for life", is 10 year old...... that means you have had four dogs !! Does this make you an expert on Lurchers, or just a bullshitter ???? Please enlighten us ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 ive saw several of both first cross greyhound to collie and alsaition the first cross you need to pick carefully , ive had three out of three litters, the pickof the litter, they were good but only one was a real all round dog , saw some handy alsaition crosses but were only a qaurt alsaition rest running dog ,all the half crosses ive had were all handy dogs but once the game localy got that bit harder after christmas ,some tioled on hares roe preban on long slips ,adrain patterson had avery good half cross beardie ,but saw some, well just for the rabbits ,one thing ive learned over the years on big open land with no fences just woods,if they have no pace to turn them of a wood or keep them in beam well they soon get to there safe ground , a qaurt of good base blood is enough for any running dog if line bred and clever ,if i thought alsaition or collie first crosses were the job well they would be in the kennel ,its a hardlife to catch regulary on willy game , so pace is a god send and a brain to , ps they are no park deer localy al wild and fast its up to the owner to give the dog the best chance to come to grips no mateer what type of dog just life , wished it was easy like some guys have bouncing of fences etc none of that localy no stock so they dong give a dam about the fences , this is all history and pre ban Quote Link to post
UNFIT 0 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) Thanks for looking at my profile,not much on it really talk is cheap and all that,No expert have lots of permission do a lot of hunting,worked with animals since leaving school.Ihave to work! My dogs not has good as yours obviously .would always give advice if i thought it might help, but there again wouldn't be scared to ask for it either,Think i read you would never need to because you know it all. when it comes to lurchers and lamping then yes i do know more than most ,even if i do blow my own trumpet ,if i did not think i was good at what i do ,i can assure you ,most of the welsh on here would soon let you know ,because i am known for what i do ,because i go out of my way to show others the best way ,in my opinion, to do things right with a dog and lamp .ie ,take them out . Unfit; in previous posts you have said you only keep one dog at a time, and keep them for life !! So suppose you have had dogs for 40 years, (which I doubt), and the average age of the dogs you keep "for life", is 10 year old...... that means you have had four dogs !! Does this make you an expert on Lurchers, or just a bullshitter ???? Please enlighten us ! Cheers. what is it with people ,if some one seems to know a bit ,they ALLWAYS TRY TO PICK HOLES IN THINGS THEY HAVE WRITTEN,well if you read other post on other threads you will see i have had more than 4 dogs i did stait this ,but i can get by with 1 at a time ,i have had 1 dog killed doing what he liked best ,2 put down with cancer ,one 2years old and one 6 years old ,mother and son ,mother was the 2 year old ,one 4 year old got ran over and killed ,plus 2 that was with me through my teens ,one got a brain tumor and was put down at 8 ,the other was 9 when he got gastroentoritis and died ,plus the one i got now who is 6 ,so as you see i have had 2 dogs at some time together ,but only working the 1 ,because the other dog having a illness ,, LIKE I SAID THEY ARE WITH ME FOR LIFE ,but one thing you would not have seen is the hundred and odd dogs i have got going for others ,plus i am still geting dogs going for others ,it is some thing i like doing ,i dont have the dogs here ,i just take the owners out with me ,i have done this for 30 plus years ,that is what makes me well known and a expert on lamping with lurchers .there are people on this site that are lamping regular with me reading all this crap about me knot knowing sod all ,and biting at the bit to prove people wrong ,but i have asked each and every one not to write any thing ,because i dont have to prove sod all to any one ,you can take what i write as TRUTH or BULLSHIT it does not matter to me ,but i do get fed up of having to explain time and time again on this site the same things to others , but thats life . Edited October 25, 2009 by UNFIT Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,145 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Thanks for looking at my profile,not much on it really talk is cheap and all that,No expert have lots of permission do a lot of hunting,worked with animals since leaving school.Ihave to work! My dogs not has good as yours obviously .would always give advice if i thought it might help, but there again wouldn't be scared to ask for it either,Think i read you would never need to because you know it all. when it comes to lurchers and lamping then yes i do know more than most ,even if i do blow my own trumpet ,if i did not think i was good at what i do ,i can assure you ,most of the welsh on here would soon let you know ,because i am known for what i do ,because i go out of my way to show others the best way ,in my opinion, to do things right with a dog and lamp .ie ,take them out . Unfit; in previous posts you have said you only keep one dog at a time, and keep them for life !! So suppose you have had dogs for 40 years, (which I doubt), and the average age of the dogs you keep "for life", is 10 year old...... that means you have had four dogs !! Does this make you an expert on Lurchers, or just a bullshitter ???? Please enlighten us ! Che what is it with people ,if some one seems to know a bit ,they ALLWAYS TRY TO PICK HOLES IN THINGS THEY HAVE WRITTEN,well if you read other post on other threads you will see i have had more than 4 dogs i did stait this ,but i can get by with 1 at a time ,i have had 1 dog killed doing what he liked best ,2 put down with cancer ,one 2years old and one 6 years old ,mother and son ,mother was the 2 year old ,one 4 year old got ran over and killed ,plus 2 that was with me through my teens ,one got a brain tumor and was put down at 8 ,the other was 9 when he got gastroentoritis and died ,plus the one i got now who is 6 ,so as you see i have had 2 dogs at some time together ,but only working the 1 ,because the other dog having a illness ,, LIKE I SAID THEY ARE WITH ME FOR LIFE ,but one thing you would not have seen is the hundred and odd dogs i have got going for others ,plus i am still geting dogs going for others ,it is some thing i like doing ,i dont have the dogs here ,i just take the owners out with me ,i have done this for 30 plus years ,that is what makes me well known and a expert on lamping with lurchers .there are people on this site that are lamping regular with me reading all this crap about me knot knowing sod all ,and biting at the bit to prove people wrong ,but i have asked each and every one not to write any thing ,because i dont have to prove sod all to any one ,you can take what i right as TRUTH or BULLSHIT it does not matter to me ,but i do get fed up of having to explain time and time again on this site the same things to others , but thats life . Bullshit ! ............ I doubt you have even owned a working dog !! You may have conned a load of kids into "coursing" their 12 week old pups, but people who have actualy owned and ran dogs will just laugh at you !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
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