artic 595 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 It's been in the ST and Country Life mags many a time regarding the misuse of Lurchers by silly owners. The problem is too many PEDLERS selling these dogs for a quick buck (get a fking job) to the wrong people and breeding for the wrong reasons. Trigger happy owners roam around the english countrysides public footpaths hoping for a run or two, lamping at night without permision in their scoobys thinking their rally driver's. Its not tarring, IT'S THE TRUTH, IT'S HAPPENING! No respect, i dont blame the farmers losing trust and i dont feel sorry for anyone who gets caught in the act! A sad state of affairs. You should feel ashamed of yourselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,981 Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Selwyn and Chalky ..........nice to see a few lads who think the same way because feck me if constantly looking at all the heros dont get you down sometimes. One farm down the road has lost £250,000 this year in damage and stolen property and this place is most definately "Lurchers Not Welcome", little wonder huh.........!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alimac 882 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I wonder the percentages of members of this site and that of ST readers that went out there way to go to the marchs in london to try in vein to stop the ban on hunting with dogs??? id bet both my balls that THL members were very few and far between, the reason for this has been brushed upon in this thread already, this place is FULL of of knobbers that think they know it all, have it all when infact there the bawl bags that cause us more hassel and un wanted attention than the antis do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wanna be farmer 0 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I wonder the percentages of members of this site and that of ST readers that went out there way to go to the marchs in london to try in vein to stop the ban on hunting with dogs??? id bet both my balls that THL members were very few and far between, the reason for this has been brushed upon in this thread already, this place is FULL of of knobbers that think they know it all, have it all when infact there the bawl bags that cause us more hassel and un wanted attention than the antis do.... Exactly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Right ! This'll F*ck a few people off.! Lurcher folk have ALWAYS had a tough time when it comes to public perception. Perhaps it's an historic thing ? Maybe going back to the days when lurcher owners couldn't afford a pedigree dog so employed a mongrel. Maybe it was a status thing? Status and image have for some time, rightly or wrongly been a very important part of our society. Chavs with their "fighting dogs" Noveau riche with springers and brown labs because they think thats what they should have and in puts them in the same bracket as the landed gentry. Even gypsies have changed. When I was a lad they were the scrap collectors and shear sharpeners of this country, they kept their sites clean as well as their noses. They didn't court trouble and they left no trace as to where they had been, including whilst they were out hunting/poaching. They all had lurchers in those days....they were called by most, mongrels. So now its deteriorated into the lurchers men being the bane of the countryside. All elements of society has deteriorated from the so called responsible gunner who is happy to gun 2000+ birds a day. To the working staffy who is now a drug dealer to the gypsy who is nothing more than a mobile refuse collection point. Standards right accross the board have dropped and will continue to do so unless someone makes a stand and stops blaming it on others. We are all responsible for our own destiny. Singleing out the lurcher for specific critisism if somewhat of a trite arguement and I suspect easy to get a reaction out of volatile armchair critics of the sport. It is down to us all (sensible ones ... Can I include myself? I hope so!) to police our own patch and our sport. How? By continuing to set high standards of behaviour and weeding out the ignorant ones. by continuing to be responsible in the way we conduct our activities. We will always be critisised for something, it is the way of the world, however, it is important how valid that critisisim is. Oh by the way, I don't have a lurcher! Swampy Here endeth the first ning Length? relative to girth Edited October 13, 2009 by Swampy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robbie1 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I feel absolutely gutted for my B-I-L, the lads only crime is that he owns lurchers and so do these sad idiots that think its clever to destroy everything. I used to know of lads that were dropping more tackle than half these fuckwits could even dream about, they could continue to do so because the area never got hot, they kept it discreet and the game kept comming. They showed the quarry respect and the land they took it from..........these people see this stuff glamourised and think its the way forward, well it aint. I blame Darcy and his picture books, leading people astray ... i know your taking the piss but i know of people who got in to lurchers because of books, fecked the land up and made everything lamp shy then sold up as they got bored when they realised it was all glamor like they read in the books!!!!!! and as for leaving carcasses on the ground well i dont think many mean to, when i used to poach id take the dogs home then go and pick the game up so easier to blag if i got pulled over maybe others do the same but it gets found before they go back???? yis robbie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest robbie1 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Selwyn and Chalky ..........nice to see a few lads who think the same way because feck me if constantly looking at all the heros dont get you down sometimes. One farm down the road has lost £250,000 this year in damage and stolen property and this place is most definately "Lurchers Not Welcome", little wonder huh.........!!! a quarter of a million pounds in 10 months!!!!! are you sure wilf???? not many farmers i no would be losing £25,000 grand a month without doing something about it!!!!! im sorry if im wrong but that figure cant be true or the farm couldnt run if it was making losses like that imo....yis robbie Edited October 13, 2009 by robbie1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richie10 345 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Lurchermen have been criminalised like the rest of society. A perfectly legal pursuit can now land you in jail, just like smoking or driving slightly over the limit, or putting out too much rubbish for collection. Would people be smashing down gates or poaching so much if it was still legal? I used to go coursing with a club that used to operate out in Norfolk and the farmer would lay on the transport to the fields. Suddenly farmers condem it all because they don't gain from it and because they could be seen as liable to prosecution letting people on their land to course. People don't get permission to be on land because of the farmers not wanting the problem of people on 'their' land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james b 0 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Its f*****g disgracefull the way things have gone,people have no respect anymore,last year my dad found himself looking down the barrel of a shotgun when he told a haif a dozen n**kers with lurchers to get off the property these b*****ds want to be punished hard but the the cops are afraid to approach them.Somthing needs to change or else the whole sport is f****d. We cant just stand back and let these wasters ruin our passion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
artic 595 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) The thing here is, when police turn up be it at night, day time to patrol the rural countryside most people slate them with "GO AND FIND REAL CRIMINALS" etc................. Then when a crime occurs we call the police! LOL They are reasurance, prevention etc....... after all the farmers i know love it having a panda parked on the drive, farm entrance. This will surely stop having £250,000 worth of damage and stolen property if eyes are lurking. So what is it lads? More police patrolling the rural areas? Police it yourselves? (this does happen but can go wrong big time) Or stop fking moaning, if your on permission, done nothing wrong and all legal and the old bill turn up, smile, be fake, what ever rocks your boats. It goes a long way lads! There will always be rural crime, but it can be reduced, and we can make it very hard for them if we all chip in and work as a team. Thats a small price to pay to help our farmers in return of enjoying our sport. Edited October 13, 2009 by artic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wanna be farmer 0 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Its f*****g disgracefull the way things have gone,people have no respect anymore,last year my dad found himself looking down the barrel of a shotgun when he told a haif a dozen n**kers with lurchers to get off the property these b*****ds want to be punished hard but the the cops are afraid to approach them.Somthing needs to change or else the whole sport is f****d. We cant just stand back and let these wasters ruin our passion. Just goes to re-inforce my point, something needs to be done about these scum. I am not a Lurcher lad my self but i respect the sport, a few lads i know are Lurcher men and i like going with them and their Lurchers and i would love my future kids to have the same oportunities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,981 Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Artic and Swampy make some good and valid points.........nice one lads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 791 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I wonder the percentages of members of this site and that of ST readers that went out there way to go to the marchs in london to try in vein to stop the ban on hunting with dogs??? id bet both my balls that THL members were very few and far between, the reason for this has been brushed upon in this thread already, this place is FULL of of knobbers that think they know it all, have it all when infact there the bawl bags that cause us more hassel and un wanted attention than the antis do.... Thers been many commendable posts in the last 3 pages but this one stood out, about the marches, I never missed one along with many other members on here and other sites now how many actual members on here are there that were members then and still are? Very few would be my guess that were in the game back then or even had a dog and that was only coming up to 5yrs ago? Members on here and other sites post of their illegal activities up and down the country regularly, criticise and you get shot down even hero worshipped by many"at least there out there doing it" but as has already been said the mods slink off to the sales section to pull someone who hasnt put a price or location The final question is there anything we can do to amend the state of play or is the damage done? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) THE HAVE'S AND THE HAVE NOT'S, SCUM, KNAKERS'S ETC, SO HAVING PERMISSION MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON OR DRESSING IN YOUR REALTREE MAKES YOU BETTER THAN SOME ONE IN TRACKYS TWEEDS , MOLE, SKINS MAKETH THE COUNTRYMAN, EVERY ONE WITH A LURCHER IS GUILTY BECAUSE THEY OWN A LURCHER, , IN A RECENT BASC MAG THEY PRINTED AN ARTTICAL ON DEER POACHING WITH A PHOTO OF A MAN WITH A NORFOLK TYPE LURCHER STANDING BY A ESCORT VAN WITH PURSE NETS AND SPADE , I RANG BASC AND ASK WHY THE PRINTED THE PICTURE WITH THE ARTICAL HER REPLIE WELL POACHERS HAVE LURCHERS DONT THEY, WHAT ABOUT THE NETS AND SPADE AND THE LITTLE LURCHER ITS A RABBITING DOG I SAID , SILENCE OH WELL THE POLICE OFFICER WHO HELPED WITH THE ARTICAL SAID THAT PHOTO WOULD LOOK GOOD , THE LURCHER IS ECHED ON PEOPLES MINDS AS THE TOOL OF THE SHADY POACHER TYPE ALL WAYS HAS ALL WAYS WILL BE , AS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LET US DOWN START WITH THE , CA, BASC, COURSING CLUB, , POLICE YOUR OWN PATCH , WE ALL MARCHED TO SAVE HUNTING WHY THE MOUNTED PACKS, AND COURSING CLUB COULD NOT GIVE A FAT RATS ARSE ABOUT , LURCHER MEN, OH AND I DONT OWN A LURCHER, LURCHER MEN GET BAD PRESS BECAUSE OF A MINORITY THE ST AND SHOOTING PRESS HAS ALLWAYS HAD A DOWNER ON LURCHERS. THERE WILL ALLWAYS BE PEOPLE ON THE FRINGES WHO COULD NOT GIVE A FOOOK ABOUT ANY ONE , OH AND ME CAPS LOCKED BUTTON IS FOOKED ;)PS GOT A LAB Edited October 13, 2009 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Artic and Swampy make some good and valid points.........nice one lads Awwww......thanks Wilf.......I feel all warm and fuzzy pink on the inside now. Couldn't possibly go out tonight and shoot bunnies.........?! OK thats over .......now wheres that 'kin gun, lamp and bag.......c'mom lurch we're off Rgds Swampy ning is all about you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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