fixed fence snares

[red fell 0]

I know this is for rabbits but you cant set a fox snare on fences or any where they can get tangled and hang.

 

is that a legality? so it legally has to be in an open run?

 

yes came out think last year

 

 

It is code of practice not law, but you could leave yourself open to prosecution if the fox was found hanging and you had not followed the code of practice.

I WISH SOMEONE WOULD CLEAR THIS UP AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS ILLEGAL TO SNARE A FENCELINE MY SON WAS ON PLACEMENT FROM COLLEGE ON A SHOOTING ESTATE FOUR YEARS AGO AND THEN THEY HAD TO SET SNARES TWO INCHES OFF THE FENCE AND I BELIEVE THAT IT HAS TO BE THE LENGTH OF SNARE AND TEALER AWAY FROM THE FENCE NOW SO TO AVOID STRANGULATION . I AM NOT 100% SURE IF IT IS LAW YET BUT I KNOW THEY WHERE LOOKING INTO IT IN SCOTLAND .SORRY I AM AND WAS EARLY TALKING ABOUT SNARING FOXES

[120-2 8]

I know this is for rabbits but you cant set a fox snare on fences or any where they can get tangled and hang.

 

is that a legality? so it legally has to be in an open run?

 

yes came out think last year

 

 

It is code of practice not law, but you could leave yourself open to prosecution if the fox was found hanging and you had not followed the code of practice.

I WISH SOMEONE WOULD CLEAR THIS UP AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS ILLEGAL TO SNARE A FENCELINE MY SON WAS ON PLACEMENT FROM COLLEGE ON A SHOOTING ESTATE FOUR YEARS AGO AND THEN THEY HAD TO SET SNARES TWO INCHES OFF THE FENCE AND I BELIEVE THAT IT HAS TO BE THE LENGTH OF SNARE AND TEALER AWAY FROM THE FENCE NOW SO TO AVOID STRANGULATION . I AM NOT 100% SURE IF IT IS LAW YET BUT I KNOW THEY WHERE LOOKING INTO IT IN SCOTLAND .SORRY I AM AND WAS EARLY TALKING ABOUT SNARING FOXES

 

 

Here is the DEFRA code of practice, it only applies to England and Wales.

 

DEFRA Snaring Code of Practice

[Wanna be farmer 0]

I don't understand, it says you may not snare on fencelines for foxes or rabbits. When an ex copper saw me setting my snares on a fence, he came up to me and spoke to me about back in the day when he used to snare, he didn't say nothign about not being able to snare on fencelines. Is this just a practice? I am sure it's not a law.

[Guest bezza]

http://www.moorlandscotland.org.uk/documen...ginScotland.pdf

[IanB 0]

Snaring on fencelines is a deadly form of snaring, its a boundary and every animal be it rabbit or fox has to pass through it or under it, yes theres a high chance of entanglement, most rabbits/foxes are dead on removing them... If you look at the guidance on defra,etc they don't condone snaring were theres any form of entanglement possible... so basically they want a clear open run, free from anything a snare can get wrapped or hung up on, this isn't law just best practice...

[Matt 160]

In areas where the law is a little 'grey', for example in cases of causing unnecessary suffering to a wild animal, the courts are likely to use any published 'best practice' guidelines to make a decision.

 

In other words, while fence snaring is not illegal in itself, you could be prosecuted on the grounds that you did not follow best practice guidelines.

 

With increasing pressure on legitimate pest control methods by various organisations like Action Against Snares, it is sensible to follow best practice guidelines. You never know who is wandering around taking pictures....

[IanB 0]

I've had this discussion before with someone, when snaring foxes on fencelines you don't need stupid length snares, pegandgun got me using short snares, less wire when making them up, and really hard for a fox to get tangled, keep them on a short lead

 

Most of the best practice guidelines are wrote by pen pushers who have not got the slightest idea about snaring, fieldcraft or hunting in general, that or some high paid boffin, who studies it for 5 year and decides its cruel........ what a revelation, so's life..................

[120-2 8]

Most of the best practice guidelines are wrote by pen pushers who have not got the slightest idea about snaring, fieldcraft or hunting in general, that or some high paid boffin, who studies it for 5 year and decides its cruel........ what a revelation, so's life..................

 

I agree totally Ianb but at the end of the day its these people that are writing the reports that will ultimately effect the future of snaring. Snares with breakaways are being tested as we write at the moment, commissioned by DEFRA the report is due out December time.

[IanB 0]

Most of the best practice guidelines are wrote by pen pushers who have not got the slightest idea about snaring, fieldcraft or hunting in general, that or some high paid boffin, who studies it for 5 year and decides its cruel........ what a revelation, so's life..................

 

I agree totally Ianb but at the end of the day its these people that are writing the reports that will ultimately effect the future of snaring. Snares with breakaways are being tested as we write at the moment, commissioned by DEFRA the report is due out December time.

 

On a standard length snare a breakaway won't work on a fence rabbit or fox...

[Holdaway 2]

On a standard length snare a breakaway won't work on a fence rabbit or fox...

 

Very true Ian. Snareman recommends only using breakaway snares in places where there is no chance of entanglement. Also the fact that the fence wire itself has some 'give' in it effects the working of the breakaway link. When snaring rabbits snareman recommends an 8 inch peg which has no movement whatsoever. On fox snares you need a solid anchor, either a long anchor bar holding the snare down or a quick link collar around a tree base such as the one snareman invented (see the pinned section).

 

Also no shock spring should be used with a breakaway device for the same reasons.

 

P&G has a good idea when using shorter cable on fence lines.

 

Defra code of practice is just that - a code of practice, not the law. However, the laws in Scotland are now different to those in England and everyone using snares should keep themselves informed of any changes to the law regarding their area/country, ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law.

 

H

[IanB 0]

On a standard length snare a breakaway won't work on a fence rabbit or fox...

 

On fox snares you need a solid anchor, either a long anchor bar holding the snare down or a quick link collar around a tree base such as the one snareman invented (see the pinned section).

 

Wooden stakes and ground anchors are ok too..... Not too keen on breakaways, deer stop does me, for my own usage.....

[Wanna be farmer 0]

Ian, so am i wrong fence snaring rabbits? If this is right, the Government is f****d and these anti's need to be educated more. It's better a rabbit being hung which will be more then likely a quick death then snaring on the ground where the rabbit could be there for at the most 24 hours untill you next check it. I think the Government need to sort their selves out.

[grebb 50]

if done correct fence snaring is a great-easy and quick way of catching many rabbits -me thinks

[badgeroy 3]

Ian, so am i wrong fence snaring rabbits? If this is right, the Government is f****d and these anti's need to be educated more. It's better a rabbit being hung which will be more then likely a quick death then snaring on the ground where the rabbit could be there for at the most 24 hours untill you next check it. I think the Government need to sort their selves out.

 

Snares should be checked twice a day, max 12 hours.

Edited November 1, 2009 by badgeroy

[Wanna be farmer 0]

Ian, so am i wrong fence snaring rabbits? If this is right, the Government is f****d and these anti's need to be educated more. It's better a rabbit being hung which will be more then likely a quick death then snaring on the ground where the rabbit could be there for at the most 24 hours untill you next check it. I think the Government need to sort their selves out.

 

Snares should be checked twice a day, max 12 hours.

 

That's not the law in England. It's atleast once every 24 hours. My snares do get checked dawn and dusk, but the law is once every 24 hours.