death boy 0 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 hi i dont no which rifle to go for out of these 17 rem. 22-250 or 223 wssm it is my first application so if any one can help me please do atb jay Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Your previous thread was about shooting rabbits? None of the above are ideal for it. 223 WSSM - bag of shite, major barrel wear issues, accuracy problems meant it's basically dead. very rare, nobody really uses it. AVOID. 22-250 - good calibre for long range fox, BUT it does use a lot of powder so comparatively it's noisy and expensive to run. Recommended for fox, for rabbit? Nope! 17 Rem - good I guess but a lot of issues getting it working well. 17 Fireball is nearly as good but with much less powder, so less barrel wear and less noise. If I were going for a 17, it'd be that. However.... long range bunny guns... 204 Ruger is probably king. Goes bloody miles, nice and flat, not too bad in the wind either. Fairly heavy powder use though. But here's a thing - do you really need more than the capability of 223 Rem? it goes 250 yards easy and 300 if you ask even vaguely nicely, more on a good day. Ammo is plentiful, reloading components readily available with good quality and choice. For a rabbit, what's not to like? Or even, get a bit closer to the bunnies? Quote Link to post
john robbo 30 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 for long range death .22250 but only good for rabbit stew. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 If I had to choose from your choice it would be the .22-250 but if you are looking for a Foxing rifle and then a few Rabbits, the .223 is about the best compromise. I have shot a Rabbit with a .22-250 and I missed. I was aiming for its head and hit it in the body. Only advantage being it was ready skinned, but not much point skinning a Rabbit if there is nothing left to eat Quote Link to post
mike white 1 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Have you thought about a .22wmr ? Quote Link to post
coldweld 65 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) Your previous thread was about shooting rabbits? None of the above are ideal for it. 223 WSSM - bag of shite, major barrel wear issues, accuracy problems meant it's basically dead. very rare, nobody really uses it. AVOID. Agree with above , Has been known to have feeding problems due to short fat case. .22-250 Good for all ranges at fox and is awesome ! Can be use on rabbits as is accurate enough for head shots out to 200m ! expensive Rabbit pie though ! 17 Rem Get's an undeserved bad press ! Fireball is an attempt to get the 17 CF in the frame ! look at the tables for these rounds next to the .223 E.G. drop and drift at 300m .223 Popular round but is that due to the US military adopting it or it is better than other .22 CF's ? Which of the .22 CF are used by elite military units for sniping ? [ clue is it ain't .223 ] True there are lots of cheap ammo in this caliber , But as for reloading components are no more readily available than any of the above choices. Noise is nearly the same as .22-250. Edited October 5, 2009 by coldweld Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 just get the 22/250 and use hmr for rabbits. noise with ase mod will be same as a 223 with same mod. lovely and flat ideal for night. just got back over a small farm seen a fox sat by oak tree ranged it and it was 235 yards put crosshair on him slipped the tigger and the noise of the hit i new was game over. no hold over just aim and pull easy. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 hi i dont no which rifle to go for out of these 17 rem. 22-250 or 223 wssm it is my first application so if any one can help me please do atb jay What do you want to shoot with them??? Quote Link to post
dougy 0 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 hi i dont no which rifle to go for out of these 17 rem. 22-250 or 223 wssm it is my first application so if any one can help me please do atb jay Morrning Jay, If i were you unless you allready have, (if so i apologise) i would advice first of all go down the rimfire road first, you may be one of the lucky ones who is given permission for CF and even open ticket on your first application. but i doubt it.. I dont know what land you have permission on so really its an educated guess, You mention a Rem 17.... knowing staffs Bret and Andrea i doubt you will get that first off.They dont like the boy racer cals and the 17 is "THE" fast kid on the block.Yes its a good fast accurate round most of the time. but for a beginer to cut there teeth on there are simpler options. And loading your own, there are more forgiving cals to start with. You would not go far wrong going for a 223 more than capable of 300 yard shots 1/2 the powder of a 22.250 and a good round to start off reloading for, putting safety 1st you will find it impossible to double load a 223 case as against a 22.250 it is possible, causing very big safety issues. What made you go for the calibres you are asking about, the quarry your after seem to be rabbit and fox so 223 is up to the job, Deer aswell... ??? Quote Link to post
hunter1 63 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 22Rimfire Hmr 17 223Centrefire. Job done mate.Thats what i use. Quote Link to post
death boy 0 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 hi iam very greatfull for all the advice i have ruled the 223 wssm and the 17 rem out of the question now the rifle will be more of a foxing round and the odd rabbit . 17 hmr is a gun i have gone for rabbits as i have used a 22 and a 17 hmr and i got on better with the 17 hmr. atb jay Quote Link to post
jordang 0 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I made a similar choice earlier in the year and went for a 20 Tac. Its an ideal round for fox and rabbits, flat shooting, low recoil and very accurate. Only potential problem is you have to reload for it. If I hadn’t picked the 20 I would have bought a 22-250, it’s a very good fox round. Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I made a similar choice earlier in the year and went for a 20 Tac. Its an ideal round for fox and rabbits, flat shooting, low recoil and very accurate. Only potential problem is you have to reload for it. If I hadn’t picked the 20 I would have bought a 22-250, it’s a very good fox round. hey you get your ass down here with that 20tac im looking forward to seeing what it does. Quote Link to post
aidan 0 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 hi it is jay on my mate account i have bought the 22.250 and the 17 hmr today thats for all the advice i will let you no how i get on with them and my first kills with them. it took a while to choose the cal other wise i wud of had my ticket before now. thanks again jay Quote Link to post
bramble 0 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Hi, what do you lads think about a .243 for foxes? Quote Link to post
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