winter hares

[Guest joe ox]

In the winter.

I wonder how long it will be before this turns into a slagging match between daytime runners and lampers ,Joe?

 

Swings and round abouts on here

[inan 841]

very true nelly and as for fen type dogs not jumping my mates jump mines jump i had a promosing younng fen type dog who jumped for the love of it 3 4 5 6 feet back and forward alAS HE IS NOT HEAR, LOCALY DOG THAt DOESNT JUMP DOESNT CATCH AS MANY its up to the owners at nite jumping mad isnt clever especaily if straying, you want it done in the first feild and away to next , but serously all dogs should jump if working, even tho it can cause problems at times , and as for hares dec and jan best months in certain areas with decent slips no kick ups unless pup , hares are harder after a good spellof frost and the ground softens as they are just that bit more alert some areas i used to course te minutse the car dor opend wham thee gone so you had to walk them and park up good hares , plus it all depends the weather whats in the feilds at certain times of years ive heard dont no if true some guys wont run plough winter wheat only winter stubble and rape dont no if its true

Well you obviously know what you are talking about,which is a refreshing change from some of the posts.

Fen dogs cant jump? Posters want to check out Lucky clearing fences and gates running a Jack ,and killing hares on a golf course,something no "plodder" would do.

Whenever this thread comes up ,it starts promisingly ,then a couple of agitators get into the act,including one who has been banned for just that.It then deteriorates into a "the hares around where I live are better than fen hares,fen dogs are slow plodders etc" .Seems most can't have a debate ,without a my p****s bigger than yours syndrome colouring their views.Half of them don't even know where the fens are.

Edited October 7, 2009 by inan

[thetonyboy 0]

when are hares at thier peak

christmas day when there verging on paranoia

[iceman001979 1,316]

its a fact this fen hare and fen dog thing is all made up by a bunch of puppy sellers there is nothing special about these dogs or the fens

l agree with what u have said seen a few dvds and some off them are during june and july in long grass my terrier would catch would like 2 c 1 off this fen dogs come 2 lreland where there is fences banks gates hedges and we c how there dogs get on after 1

Ive seen several Irish dogs in competitions over here,can't remember them winning anything on the fens.

really l know a few have went 2 england and won lots off comp but the fens are more for longdogs not luchers 3/4 sulks 1/4 greyhoung show them a fence and they dont know what 2 do

I have seen dogs from both Northern Ireland and from the South .never seen one win the Temple Brewer,Forley Cup, Cambridge Cup,Calendar Cup, or Forley Legends.Perhaps you could tell me which " comps" Irish dogs have won?

I know several well known coursing men who ran in competition on the fens pre ban . They went over to Ireland annually, and said the hares were not as strong as those here .

l have a few dvds off irish dogs running over there and a few that have won the forley legends in lreland there is not big open feilds like the fens so 3/4 sulk 1/4 greyhoung dont do the job over here but do well over there diff dogs for diff jobs give me a lucher thats going go though or over any thing till bet what its chasing not standing watching like l have seen myself but the english do have good hare dogs but l take and irish dog with balls and brains any day over a running machine

[rics 1]

[bANNED TEXT] ya dog gets towed around for 3 mins before he settles and start to course it for 2 more mins to catch it thats a proper hare in jan wet ground

lol thats a slow dog bruv.a dog should be on the hares arse all the time turning it inside out

i see you havent ever run a good hare also you beter stick to ya fields pal dont run the fen youl get blown off

[inan 841]

its a fact this fen hare and fen dog thing is all made up by a bunch of puppy sellers there is nothing special about these dogs or the fens

l agree with what u have said seen a few dvds and some off them are during june and july in long grass my terrier would catch would like 2 c 1 off this fen dogs come 2 lreland where there is fences banks gates hedges and we c how there dogs get on after 1

Ive seen several Irish dogs in competitions over here,can't remember them winning anything on the fens.

really l know a few have went 2 england and won lots off comp but the fens are more for longdogs not luchers 3/4 sulks 1/4 greyhoung show them a fence and they dont know what 2 do

I have seen dogs from both Northern Ireland and from the South .never seen one win the Temple Brewer,Forley Cup, Cambridge Cup,Calendar Cup, or Forley Legends.Perhaps you could tell me which " comps" Irish dogs have won?

I know several well known coursing men who ran in competition on the fens pre ban . They went over to Ireland annually, and said the hares were not as strong as those here .

l have a few dvds off irish dogs running over there and a few that have won the forley legends in lreland there is not big open feilds like the fens so 3/4 sulk 1/4 greyhoung dont do the job over here but do well over there diff dogs for diff jobs give me a lucher thats going go though or over any thing till bet what its chasing not standing watching like l have seen myself but the english do have good hare dogs but l take and irish dog with balls and brains any day over a running machine

I asked you what Irish dogs have won competitions in ENGLAND? You said,"I know a few have went to England and won lots of comp ". TWICE I HAVE ASKED YOU TO NAME THEM. SINCE YOU HAVE NOT, CAN WE TAKE IT THAT IT NEVER HAPPENED?

[whin 463]

the irish dogs that have one have been bred probaly in britain etc or englland and shipped backover , as for fen dogs not jumping all dogs will jump to a certain degree if taught since young ,some natural some only if they have to, my mates dogs spend there weekends down fens and the jump my dogs jump and are bred the same way i just use them for diffrent strokes , but are same way bred , and is the irish hare more like the blue hare a more small red beast , ive met guys from newry belfast are with decent dogs but no way would they run on big land with decent slips whenits wet and winter but were decent dogs bred to buzz about paddocks and jump and well they were lurchers but handy

[inan 841]

the irish dogs that have one have been bred probaly in britain etc or englland and shipped backover , as for fen dogs not jumping all dogs will jump to a certain degree if taught since young ,some natural some only if they have to, my mates dogs spend there weekends down fens and the jump my dogs jump and are bred the same way i just use them for diffrent strokes , but are same way bred , and is the irish hare more like the blue hare a more small red beast , ive met guys from newry belfast are with decent dogs but no way would they run on big land with decent slips whenits wet and winter but were decent dogs bred to buzz about paddocks and jump and well they were lurchers but handy

You are right about them coming from English stock,a friend of mine who ran in the Millenium Forley Cup, [he was one of the finalists] ,has sent several dogs over there.

Any dog that runs the fens has to learn get over very wide dykes, and they don't do it by swimming, of course they can jump.

The problem with the Irish dogs is, not that they aren't bred well enough,but that they are not used to the big land and long courses.As you know ,they do allright in their own country.

I just asked" Iceman" to name some of the Irish dogs that have won competitions over here ,and what competitions, his silence is a lot more eloquent than his post was.

Edited October 7, 2009 by inan

[whin 463]

mate i no my dogs and saw enough to know what adog needs to run weekly down lincoln way ,and most of the home grown irish dogs are hound cross and just good honest lurchers ,had guys out from newry nice bitch he had and would have liked to bred her to my saluk for lamping and local hunting , alot of guys havint run horrible wet clay in december and january its clatchy balls the dogs feet and the hare, most coursing you seeon vids thegoings good and looks easy to make good vewing for guys ,they not show you shitty land withj long slips and long courses as its slow and a war of attrition ive been lucky in life to see winners of fen comps and had dogs bred of them i no what awek in week out type of dog u need ,BUT A LOT DONT ALL THE BEST

[winter hare 2]

You need a super dog to catch a january fen hare........... needs a good dose of saluki mixed with saluki.....

 

my bitch smashes fen hares boxing day onwards.

[billy the kid 1984 1]

[bANNED TEXT] ya dog gets towed around for 3 mins before he settles and start to course it for 2 more mins to catch it thats a proper hare in jan wet ground

lol thats a slow dog bruv.a dog should be on the hares arse all the time turning it inside out

i see you havent ever run a good hare also you beter stick to ya fields pal dont run the fen youl get blown off

pmsl i havent seen a good hare!!! bring your dog down sussex on lewes hills in a couple of months i will give you 100 pound for every hare you kill.pm me and we can organize it.

[inan 841]

[bANNED TEXT] ya dog gets towed around for 3 mins before he settles and start to course it for 2 more mins to catch it thats a proper hare in jan wet ground

lol thats a slow dog bruv.a dog should be on the hares arse all the time turning it inside out

i see you havent ever run a good hare also you beter stick to ya fields pal dont run the fen youl get blown off

pmsl i havent seen a good hare!!! bring your dog down sussex on lewes hills in a couple of months i will give you 100 pound for every hare you kill.pm me and we can organize it.

Dont forget to tell the Old Bill which day you are going to be out.

[inan 841]

the irish dogs that have one have been bred probaly in britain etc or englland and shipped backover , as for fen dogs not jumping all dogs will jump to a certain degree if taught since young ,some natural some only if they have to, my mates dogs spend there weekends down fens and the jump my dogs jump and are bred the same way i just use them for diffrent strokes , but are same way bred , and is the irish hare more like the blue hare a more small red beast , ive met guys from newry belfast are with decent dogs but no way would they run on big land with decent slips whenits wet and winter but were decent dogs bred to buzz about paddocks and jump and well they were lurchers but handy

You are right about them coming from English stock,a friend of mine who ran in the Millenium Forley Cup, [he was one of the finalists] ,has sent several dogs over there.

Any dog that runs the fens has to learn get over very wide dykes, and they don't do it by swimming, of course they can jump.

The problem with the Irish dogs is, not that they aren't bred well enough,but that they are not used to the big land and long courses.As you know ,they do allright in their own country.

I just asked" Iceman" to name some of the Irish dogs that have won competitions over here ,and what competitions, his silence is a lot more eloquent than his post was.

inan you sound so one sided and a coursing man pm me and we will put your theory to bed

If you want to talk privately PM Me !

[inan 841]

mate i no my dogs and saw enough to know what adog needs to run weekly down lincoln way ,and most of the home grown irish dogs are hound cross and just good honest lurchers ,had guys out from newry nice bitch he had and would have liked to bred her to my saluk for lamping and local hunting , alot of guys havint run horrible wet clay in december and january its clatchy balls the dogs feet and the hare, most coursing you seeon vids thegoings good and looks easy to make good vewing for guys ,they not show you shitty land withj long slips and long courses as its slow and a war of attrition ive been lucky in life to see winners of fen comps and had dogs bred of them i no what awek in week out type of dog u need ,BUT A LOT DONT ALL THE BEST

Pre ban I only ran in England ,but on all types of going.

I've no problem with Irish dogs or their owners met some very good guys from across the water ,at the Forley .

All I did was ask Iceman to name some of the Irish winners of English competitions he spoke of, his silence has been deafening. Have a good season.

[billy the kid 1984 1]

[bANNED TEXT] ya dog gets towed around for 3 mins before he settles and start to course it for 2 more mins to catch it thats a proper hare in jan wet ground

lol thats a slow dog bruv.a dog should be on the hares arse all the time turning it inside out

i see you havent ever run a good hare also you beter stick to ya fields pal dont run the fen youl get blown off

pmsl i havent seen a good hare!!! bring your dog down sussex on lewes hills in a couple of months i will give you 100 pound for every hare you kill.pm me and we can organize it.

Dont forget to tell the Old Bill which day you are going to be out.

we dont worry bout them down here mate they never get called.and if they do they just send you on your way