tplumb 0 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Hi all Just wondering what the deal is with lending a shotgun, do you have to fill out the table on the SGC even if its for less than 72 hours? Thanks Tony Quote Link to post
Eric The Dog 0 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Hi all Just wondering what the deal is with lending a shotgun, do you have to fill out the table on the SGC even if its for less than 72 hours? Thanks Tony [/quote less than 72 hours is fine to lend a shotgun to someone else with a cert no other paperwork needed.but firearms you can't even lend for an hour! Quote Link to post
jazz_11 5 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Dont think so mate,,... Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 you can lend a shotgun and if a cert holder keep it in your cabinet.not firearms. if you mean to shoot with you need the permission of "the occupier" if you do not have a sgc. cartridges must not be locked away( good practice to secure them though imo) nor do you need a sgc to have them in your possesion. again firearms ammo you do need a fac. hope this helps. atb Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 less than 72 hours is fine to lend a shotgun to someone else with a cert no other paperwork needed.but firearms you can't even lend for an hour! That's your answer if you are in England! Quote Link to post
tplumb 0 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks lads So I can borrow someone elses shotgun for up to 72 hours without having to fill anything in on either sgc, right? Thanks Tony Quote Link to post
Eric The Dog 0 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dont think so mate,,... if you check with basc or the police mate you'll find what I said was right! Quote Link to post
Ian Clark 0 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 In N.I., all fireams except for VERY low powered air rifles and pistols are held on a FAC - there are no SGC there. That means that the rules on all shotguns, air rifles and bullet firing rifles are the same as they are in the rest ofthe UK for FAC weapons. In GB, a certificate holder can borrow a shotgun for up to 72 hours without ANY paperwork of any kind, and of course you can do this as often as you like, provided that technically it returns to the possession of the certificate holder between each period of 72 hours. It is also possible to have shotguns on more than one certificate, so if you borrow a shotgun regularly from the same person, both of you can simply notify the police licensing branch that you 'share possession' and that means either of you can have the guns in your cabinet at any time without further paperwork. This is not subject to police 'approval' - you simply write and TELL them you are doing it. A person who does not have a certificate can borrow a shotgun from the certificate holder as shown below under firearms. ON FAC rated weapons, you can borrow a firearm and use it in the presence of the 'occupier' of land and under his supervision. The current court thinking on this is 'within sight, sound and under reasonable control' and 'occupier' means a person who has permission to shoot there. If you are likely to want to borrow a friend's firearm and use it when he is not present, you can have the weapon on both certificates as above, as shared possession, but in this case, both of you need to satisfy the 'good reason to posess' criteria, and that is subject to discussion with the police. They cannot refuse unreasonably - if they do you have a right of appeal to the courts. Unfortunately that can cost a lot of money (£5-10,000), but as many of you will know, our members have the legal fees insurance to cover this if the police try to act smart at their expense. Hope this is of some help Quote Link to post
clay man 0 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 hi all over hear if you lend a gun to anybody and the law find out it will be taken from you and never given back Quote Link to post
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