Bulking up

[Guest lavyheed]

The dog isn't skin and bone,it's probably me being an paranoid prick,he was wormed a couple of weeks back.

 

I will take a pic,and put it up i just never had time today as was out with the ferrets.

 

He is worked 3 or 4 nights a week,he is building up a nice muscle tone for 11 months old.

 

Is this too much work for a dog of this age? He is always in his element when out and misses being out if the weathers rubbish or i am at work.

 

His diet is a lot of chicken,rabbit rice and pasta,and a winalot mixer biscuit and sometimes a dr johns biscuit,water is always available. If anybody here can recommend a better biscuit,please do.

 

He is off the Barnesmore strain and to be honest i don't know too much about this strain,again any more info will be appreciated.

 

He is off of show stock so will he be slighter? or does that not matter?

 

 

Thanks for all the replies and sorry for being a pain in the @rse with all the questions

[shotup 9]

syneds wonder dog complete food. only one i know that works on hat racks

[craigyboy 1,274]

tripe is 84% water the dog will fecking drown before it puts weight on with that and bones are good for calcium but not for protein and weight gain ... feed the dog 70% chicken for the protein and muscle building values and 30% fats so thge dog has enough energy to work with and not start burning up its own calories .... give the dog plenty of sprint work this works the fast twitch muscles and builds up muscle ... do you ever see a slightly built olympic sprinter ??? ..........

 

spot on ken

pretty much mate,but not so sure of the tripe bit tho correct me if im wrong tho socks

analysis of a piece of tripe... discovered that the calcium:phosphorous ratio is 1:1, the overall pH is on the acidic side which is better for digestion, protein is 15.1, fat 11.7 & it contained the essential fatty acids, Linoleic & Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. Also discovered, was the presence of Lactic Acid Bacteria. which is the good intestinal bacteria. It is the main ingredient in probiotics.

and because of its rubbery texture, serving it in large chunks also aids the canine in strengthening its jaw muscles & has an added benefit as a form of canine dental floss. The white tripe that you find in the supermarket has been cleaned, scalded & bleached. It has almost no nutritional value for the canine.the full analysis..

Moisture 71.37%

Crude Fat 11.70%

Protein 15.82%

Ash 1.23%

Phosphorous 0.14%

Calcium 0.12%

Calories 756.35 cal/lb.

pH 6.12

Lactic Acid Bacteria 12,000 CFU/G

Linoleic Acid (EFA) 2.72%

Linolenic Acid (EFA) 0.37%

Edited September 27, 2009 by craigyboy

[willum 89]

syneds wonder dog complete food. only one i know that works on hat racks

 

 

i feed my dogs on purina pro plan with a little tin meet just for taste then give them a bit of barf once a week. and the pup is on pro plan pup biscuits with a little royal canin meet. but i own terriers this gives them loads of drive and body subvstance is good on them aswell.atb mate hope you find what you are looking for.

[its ma baw 51]

tripe is 84% water the dog will fecking drown before it puts weight on with that and bones are good for calcium but not for protein and weight gain ... feed the dog 70% chicken for the protein and muscle building values and 30% fats so thge dog has enough energy to work with and not start burning up its own calories .... give the dog plenty of sprint work this works the fast twitch muscles and builds up muscle ... do you ever see a slightly built olympic sprinter ??? ..........

 

spot on ken

pretty much mate,but not so sure of the tripe bit tho correct me if im wrong tho socks

analysis of a piece of tripe... discovered that the calcium:phosphorous ratio is 1:1, the overall pH is on the acidic side which is better for digestion, protein is 15.1, fat 11.7 & it contained the essential fatty acids, Linoleic & Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. Also discovered, was the presence of Lactic Acid Bacteria. which is the good intestinal bacteria. It is the main ingredient in probiotics.

and because of its rubbery texture, serving it in large chunks also aids the canine in strengthening its jaw muscles & has an added benefit as a form of canine dental floss. The white tripe that you find in the supermarket has been cleaned, scalded & bleached. It has almost no nutritional value for the canine.the full analysis..

Moisture 71.37%

Crude Fat 11.70%

Protein 15.82%

Ash 1.23%

Phosphorous 0.14%

Calcium 0.12%

Calories 756.35 cal/lb.

pH 6.12

Lactic Acid Bacteria 12,000 CFU/G

Linoleic Acid (EFA) 2.72%

Linolenic Acid (EFA) 0.37%

 

f*****g hell.......... you must have the hairiest palms in the world....... You don't get out much right????

[stormrider8 59]

loads of road work and loads of beef or lamb mince.. Trot it beside the bike and it will bulk right up.

[craigyboy 1,274]

tripe is 84% water the dog will fecking drown before it puts weight on with that and bones are good for calcium but not for protein and weight gain ... feed the dog 70% chicken for the protein and muscle building values and 30% fats so thge dog has enough energy to work with and not start burning up its own calories .... give the dog plenty of sprint work this works the fast twitch muscles and builds up muscle ... do you ever see a slightly built olympic sprinter ??? ..........

 

spot on ken

pretty much mate,but not so sure of the tripe bit tho correct me if im wrong tho socks

analysis of a piece of tripe... discovered that the calcium:phosphorous ratio is 1:1, the overall pH is on the acidic side which is better for digestion, protein is 15.1, fat 11.7 & it contained the essential fatty acids, Linoleic & Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. Also discovered, was the presence of Lactic Acid Bacteria. which is the good intestinal bacteria. It is the main ingredient in probiotics.

and because of its rubbery texture, serving it in large chunks also aids the canine in strengthening its jaw muscles & has an added benefit as a form of canine dental floss. The white tripe that you find in the supermarket has been cleaned, scalded & bleached. It has almost no nutritional value for the canine.the full analysis..

Moisture 71.37%

Crude Fat 11.70%

Protein 15.82%

Ash 1.23%

Phosphorous 0.14%

Calcium 0.12%

Calories 756.35 cal/lb.

pH 6.12

Lactic Acid Bacteria 12,000 CFU/G

Linoleic Acid (EFA) 2.72%

Linolenic Acid (EFA) 0.37%

 

f*****g hell.......... you must have the hairiest palms in the world....... You don't get out much right????

nearly pissed misel,i get out plenty mate,im an animal nutritionist and my palms arent hairy ive shaved em

Edited September 27, 2009 by craigyboy

[paulus 26]

at 11 month old you dont really want to be muscling it up, the bones are still growing and loads of muscle will hinder that growth and cause the dog probs in later life. pups tend to grow in two directions up and out but never both at the same time so as long as its getting a healthy diet dont worry to much

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

my bull is terrible for losing condition through working hard, but plenty of fatty lamb on the bone brings him back quicker than anything.

[its ma baw 51]

tripe is 84% water the dog will fecking drown before it puts weight on with that and bones are good for calcium but not for protein and weight gain ... feed the dog 70% chicken for the protein and muscle building values and 30% fats so thge dog has enough energy to work with and not start burning up its own calories .... give the dog plenty of sprint work this works the fast twitch muscles and builds up muscle ... do you ever see a slightly built olympic sprinter ??? ..........

 

spot on ken

pretty much mate,but not so sure of the tripe bit tho correct me if im wrong tho socks

analysis of a piece of tripe... discovered that the calcium:phosphorous ratio is 1:1, the overall pH is on the acidic side which is better for digestion, protein is 15.1, fat 11.7 & it contained the essential fatty acids, Linoleic & Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. Also discovered, was the presence of Lactic Acid Bacteria. which is the good intestinal bacteria. It is the main ingredient in probiotics.

and because of its rubbery texture, serving it in large chunks also aids the canine in strengthening its jaw muscles & has an added benefit as a form of canine dental floss. The white tripe that you find in the supermarket has been cleaned, scalded & bleached. It has almost no nutritional value for the canine.the full analysis..

Moisture 71.37%

Crude Fat 11.70%

Protein 15.82%

Ash 1.23%

Phosphorous 0.14%

Calcium 0.12%

Calories 756.35 cal/lb.

pH 6.12

Lactic Acid Bacteria 12,000 CFU/G

Linoleic Acid (EFA) 2.72%

Linolenic Acid (EFA) 0.37%

 

f*****g hell.......... you must have the hairiest palms in the world....... You don't get out much right????

nearly pissed misen,i get out plenty mate,im an animal nutritionist and my palms arent hairy ive shaved em

 

thank f**k for that cos believe you me..... i was worried for you mate... Any c**t that is that fanatical about tripe should be on some kind of short list!!!!

[Guest reload]

Dont excersis less thats plain silly, unless the dog is getting run into the ground..

 

Feed several small meals rather than one big meal, this way the dog will make more of its food.

I would opt for fresh grub, ideally plenty of chicken carcass and flesh, and use fatty tripe and beef 50/50.

 

If you use tripe get green/dirty tripe from the slaughter house its the best you will get...never feed white tripe from a butchers...its for northerners to eat.

Good luck

Edited September 27, 2009 by reload

[the_stig 6,614]

at 11 month old you dont really want to be muscling it up, the bones are still growing and loads of muscle will hinder that growth and cause the dog probs in later life. pups tend to grow in two directions up and out but never both at the same time so as long as its getting a healthy diet dont worry to much

i was about to post the same i`d say at 11 months he`s still a way to go .

[craigyboy 1,274]

tripe is 84% water the dog will fecking drown before it puts weight on with that and bones are good for calcium but not for protein and weight gain ... feed the dog 70% chicken for the protein and muscle building values and 30% fats so thge dog has enough energy to work with and not start burning up its own calories .... give the dog plenty of sprint work this works the fast twitch muscles and builds up muscle ... do you ever see a slightly built olympic sprinter ??? ..........

 

spot on ken

pretty much mate,but not so sure of the tripe bit tho correct me if im wrong tho socks

analysis of a piece of tripe... discovered that the calcium:phosphorous ratio is 1:1, the overall pH is on the acidic side which is better for digestion, protein is 15.1, fat 11.7 & it contained the essential fatty acids, Linoleic & Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. Also discovered, was the presence of Lactic Acid Bacteria. which is the good intestinal bacteria. It is the main ingredient in probiotics.

and because of its rubbery texture, serving it in large chunks also aids the canine in strengthening its jaw muscles & has an added benefit as a form of canine dental floss. The white tripe that you find in the supermarket has been cleaned, scalded & bleached. It has almost no nutritional value for the canine.the full analysis..

Moisture 71.37%

Crude Fat 11.70%

Protein 15.82%

Ash 1.23%

Phosphorous 0.14%

Calcium 0.12%

Calories 756.35 cal/lb.

pH 6.12

Lactic Acid Bacteria 12,000 CFU/G

Linoleic Acid (EFA) 2.72%

Linolenic Acid (EFA) 0.37%

 

f*****g hell.......... you must have the hairiest palms in the world....... You don't get out much right????

nearly pissed misen,i get out plenty mate,im an animal nutritionist and my palms arent hairy ive shaved em

 

thank f**k for that cos believe you me..... i was worried for you mate... Any c**t that is that fanatical about tripe should be on some kind of short list!!!!

stop it i really am gonna piss misel

Edited September 27, 2009 by craigyboy

[its ma baw 51]

tripe is 84% water the dog will fecking drown before it puts weight on with that and bones are good for calcium but not for protein and weight gain ... feed the dog 70% chicken for the protein and muscle building values and 30% fats so thge dog has enough energy to work with and not start burning up its own calories .... give the dog plenty of sprint work this works the fast twitch muscles and builds up muscle ... do you ever see a slightly built olympic sprinter ??? ..........

 

spot on ken

pretty much mate,but not so sure of the tripe bit tho correct me if im wrong tho socks

analysis of a piece of tripe... discovered that the calcium:phosphorous ratio is 1:1, the overall pH is on the acidic side which is better for digestion, protein is 15.1, fat 11.7 & it contained the essential fatty acids, Linoleic & Linolenic, in their recommended proportions. Also discovered, was the presence of Lactic Acid Bacteria. which is the good intestinal bacteria. It is the main ingredient in probiotics.

and because of its rubbery texture, serving it in large chunks also aids the canine in strengthening its jaw muscles & has an added benefit as a form of canine dental floss. The white tripe that you find in the supermarket has been cleaned, scalded & bleached. It has almost no nutritional value for the canine.the full analysis..

Moisture 71.37%

Crude Fat 11.70%

Protein 15.82%

Ash 1.23%

Phosphorous 0.14%

Calcium 0.12%

Calories 756.35 cal/lb.

pH 6.12

Lactic Acid Bacteria 12,000 CFU/G

Linoleic Acid (EFA) 2.72%

Linolenic Acid (EFA) 0.37%

 

f*****g hell.......... you must have the hairiest palms in the world....... You don't get out much right????

nearly pissed misen,i get out plenty mate,im an animal nutritionist and my palms arent hairy ive shaved em

 

thank f**k for that cos believe you me..... i was worried for you mate... Any c**t that is that fanatical about tripe should be on some kind of short list!!!!

stop it i really am gonna piss misel

 

The bit I like the best was the way you started the post with.... correct me if I'm wrong...... as f*****g if!!!

[its ma baw 51]

I'm nae expert bit I think your analysis of the ash content is slightly large at 1.23%