shot fox

[bud9 79]

fair play bud,good luck with it

 

Well done

Give my pups a rag off a dead one every chance I get will do no harm mate.

She should do you proud need you need to show her one behind the spade next mate.

I've buried a dead on in an artificial earth in the past, let the pups have a rag of it first then bury it for them and let them find it to ground all good practice mate.

You don't want the dog ragging a dead one then first time to ground gets a face full and knocks her confidence.

Well done keep the good work up have a good season

 

All the best Johnnie deep dig

thats what i will be doing anyways i have an older dog that knows his job very well she hopefully get the best of starts with him thanks

[Hepher 86]

fair play bud,good luck with it

 

Well done

Give my pups a rag off a dead one every chance I get will do no harm mate.

She should do you proud need you need to show her one behind the spade next mate.

I've buried a dead on in an artificial earth in the past, let the pups have a rag of it first then bury it for them and let them find it to ground all good practice mate.

You don't want the dog ragging a dead one then first time to ground gets a face full and knocks her confidence.

Well done keep the good work up have a good season

 

All the best Johnnie deep dig

 

A REASON WHY I THINK THE ABOVE POST IS COMPLETE BULLSHITE. I DUG 5FT LAST SEASON TO AN INEXPERIENCED BITCH WITH A DEAD PIECE OF GAME AFTER AN EXPERIENCED DOG HAD SAID NOWT AT HOME, THE FOX HAD BEEN DEAD A FEW DAYS AND ON INSPECTION HAD BEEN SHOT, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF BURRYING DEAD GAME FOR YOUNG DOGS TO FIND. TOTALLY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE IMO.

[bud9 79]

i wont be burying any dead foxes for the pup but i will be useing a dog that knows the job and when dug to i will let my pup in so i can see for myself what she will be like when the fox is alive

[MOO 730]

Bud 9 WHY WHEN SOMEONE QUESTIONS YOUR POSTS DO YOU ACCUSE THEM OF BEING AN ANTI A GRASS OR THE POLICE ?????

[dog fox 16]

i will be useing a dog that knows the job and when dug to i will let my pup in so i can see for myself what she will be like when the fox is alive

 

in my opinion your about to make mistake number 2 ,showing a pup a stop end after being dug will only make him think thats were the game is next time and could make him come off when your digging to him . let him learn his trade from the front door and finish it by him being lifted by yourself ,that way he knows nothing else ,and is less likly to want to leave his game .as long as the dog is ready (and only you,ll know that)let him enter himself .

i think the lads are giving you good info on all your posts but you don,t seem to want to listern ...as many will have made the same mistakes many years ago ,they might be cruel f--kers but they do know what there talking about good luck with the pup

[liamdelaney 2,587]

i wont be burying any dead foxes for the pup but i will be useing a dog that knows the job and when dug to i will let my pup in so i can see for myself what she will be like when the fox is alive

Thats called baiting its also illegal.

[stormyboy 1,352]

What harm is allowing the dog to rag a dead one going to do!!?? They learn that it is quarry without getting hurt too young. If they get really exited by it so much the better. they will soon learn a bit of discretion when they get a slap from a live one,but if they're fired up they will stick to the job.

Have none of you used a dead one to show a youngster? Hard to believe!

[dog fox 16]

look at the beginning of vid when the dog thinks its alive for a second or two ,looks more frightened than owt else only when it relises its dead doe,s it steem in ,so in some people eye,s youve gained absolutly nothing from doing it ,let them find them there self below ground and start from there .normally give them a tail or two while there pups in back yard but thats about it the rest is down to the dog.

 

p.s bud i still say there,s beddy in that pup

Edited September 28, 2009 by dog fox

[stormyboy 1,352]

look at the beginning of vid when the dog thinks its alive for a second or two ,looks more frightened than owt else only when it relises its dead doe,s it steem in ,so in some people eye,s youve gained absolutly nothing from doing it ,let them find them there self below ground and start from there .normally give them a tail or two while there pups in back yard but thats about it the rest is down to the dog.

 

p.s bud i still say there,s beddy in that pup

 

The pup shows a natural hesitation,as most would. Whats the difference between "pups in the back yard" ragging a tail and an older pup ragging a dead one? If an antipathy to fox is ingrained in the pup it is more likely to stick at it when at work.

the pup has taken a good first step by the looks. keep it up mate.

[bud9 79]

look at the beginning of vid when the dog thinks its alive for a second or two ,looks more frightened than owt else only when it relises its dead doe,s it steem in ,so in some people eye,s youve gained absolutly nothing from doing it ,let them find them there self below ground and start from there .normally give them a tail or two while there pups in back yard but thats about it the rest is down to the dog.

 

p.s bud i still say there,s beddy in that pup

the pup looks like she was frightened well thats maybe becouse i was holding the fox bye the head and faced it to her then i was turning the fox side on thats why she was jumping in and out if she just went right into it when i was holding it face on then i would be wondering what sort of mess she would get her self in when to ground and people have diffrent ways of bringing pups on i will stick to the way iv always stuck to and you stick to the way you think is best yourself but im happy so far with her and thats all that matters to me

[franny958 0]

there is def no beddy in that pup i know the breeding of that pup and there is none in the line but at first look i thought the same there is patterdale russle and lakey but nothing else . the pups looking well mate she will do fine working with old bud

[bud9 79]

there is def no beddy in that pup i know the breeding of that pup and there is none in the line but at first look i thought the same there is patterdale russle and lakey but nothing else . the pups looking well mate she will do fine working with old bud

she will be fine she is keen enough so far

[dog fox 16]

best of luck with her bud and hope she works out well for you

[johnnie deep dig 36]

fair play bud,good luck with it

 

Well done

Give my pups a rag off a dead one every chance I get will do no harm mate.

She should do you proud need you need to show her one behind the spade next mate.

I've buried a dead on in an artificial earth in the past, let the pups have a rag of it first then bury it for them and let them find it to ground all good practice mate.

You don't want the dog ragging a dead one then first time to ground gets a face full and knocks her confidence.

Well done keep the good work up have a good season

 

All the best Johnnie deep dig

 

A REASON WHY I THINK THE ABOVE POST IS COMPLETE BULLSHITE. I DUG 5FT LAST SEASON TO AN INEXPERIENCED BITCH WITH A DEAD PIECE OF GAME AFTER AN EXPERIENCED DOG HAD SAID NOWT AT HOME, THE FOX HAD BEEN DEAD A FEW DAYS AND ON INSPECTION HAD BEEN SHOT, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF BURRYING DEAD GAME FOR YOUNG DOGS TO FIND. TOTALLY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE IMO.

 

The artificial earth is in my own garden it consists of a 225 diameter pipe no longer than 3mtrs and it opens up into a small concrete chamber with a flag lid on the top.

I let the pups operative words being pups no younger than 8months old and no older than 12months old rag the dead game above ground in my garden.

Then I lift the flag lid of the top of the artificial earth and put the game inside the chamber.

I then encourage the pups to enter the 225 diameter pipe to the game It works for me mate.

 

As for the comments dug 5ft to a dead piece of game after experienced dog said nothing home I would be giving the so called experienced dog the back of the spade and putting more time into the young bitch she obviously has a better nose than the dog.

Or are you saying the experienced dog knows the difference between dead game and live game that's why he said don't bother no one home?

I wouldn't have been bothered about digging down to a dead fox as long as the inexperienced bitch was still with it baying away when I broke through.

What was the experienced dog doing while the young bitch was to ground sat licking his bollocks tied to a tree saying your waisting your time dick-ed its all ready dead.

 

All the best pal and keep digging

[bud9 79]

best of luck with her bud and hope she works out well for you

am pritty sure she will work fine and cheers