Old lines & strains

[Bosun11 537]

Whats the Bill Doherty strain like as tested?

 

What type does he choose to x, has anybody got this strain?

 

Good topic.

 

I'm sure Dox will reply himself Artic, though you'll find all you need to know in his book, a crackin read

[Bosun11 537]

i keep an old line of traveller bred stuff met plummer and hancock and had the craic.

Plummer had good stock down from bodgers stuff but went for the blue merle type i think he missed out myself but there you go i like the old types bred for generations no weakness in them and all natural abillity hunt jump catch and carry types be good to see where this thread goes ATB

 

Interesting stuff Blacktabs, from what i've read when he got his 'Merle' dog it sounded the end of that line he kept, shame too, as by the sounds of it the only thing the old stuff couldn't do was make the money the collie stuff could, when him and Hancock started a 'Dynasty'

 

There was a dog in Liverpool bred directly out of Woolybear (Merle x Fathom) in the early 's, Sonny was its name, big ugly brute, had one hell of a reputation, good all round grafter and iron hard, nasty with it too, got out once and killed a Doberman in a local shopping area!

[Bosun11 537]

a friend of mine called stat has bred his own lurchers for many years and they offen throw the same type of lurchers...which are very handy tools...and i know it dosn't mean too much but plumber mentions him and his dogs in one of his books.

I have seen one in the flesh and they are a credit to him.Definately would be my choice of lurcher for allround work.atb dell

 

They sound interesting Moonlighter, as do all the posts on here, thanks for the replies, will be really good to hear more

[blacktabs 3]

Dell your not wrong about Beauty and i believe stats line has similar ancestry his stuff i believe comes down from plummers grip bred to Anne powers knorfolk type had one of that litter myself never owned a better type ATB

 

Boson11 you hit the nail on the head mate they did have a mean streak with strangers as much as other things grip kept the postman in his kennel for a full day when Terry Aherne had him at stud.

The pups i had off him were the same personally i think it was that rage that made them what they were.

Edited September 25, 2009 by blacktabs

[sniper 30]

Should be a good thread. i too have owned a mick douglas bread dog but lost him as a youngster, was very muhc like a tumbler type i used to own. Now i wouldnt mind starting my own line off lurchers bred from my own stuff, and go for linebreeding however the line would be kept very tight but not too close. the closest ill be goin will be half brother to half sister and the such likes.but an outcross should happen from tha mating imo. Like the bitch ive kept from my recent pending on her making the grade then i will hopefully line her to a cousin or half brother whether i breed the dam or not within the next few years.Then i would personally outcross to either a greyhound or another bloodline. so hopefully ill be set for a good few years.

Theirs my say anyhow. Atb Sniper

 

Sniper, was that a rangey wheaten coloured dog, a real beauty and if so how long ago? The reason I ask is that a Douglas bred dog was in the Ormskirk area about 20 odd years back, used to see a bloke with it regular on my way to work, walking down Holborn hill, he was always trying to hide (unsuccessfully!) a hare or two. Never did stop to talk dogs, he always looked like he'd bolt if a car pulled up and I was always late! But I did find out the dogs breeding from a mate in the town.

no i think the dog your on about was a deerhoundx i used to go out with him was he tall lad. yeh most probs the lad i knew.

[poacher3161 1,766]

I have been casting my mind back to another norfolk type lurcher i remember seeing in 81 it was owned by a chap called terry who lived in the village called martin in lincolnshire.My mate knew him well and we had a run out to see him it was a real eye opener as his place was like a car boot even with stuffed lions for sale.The straw coulerd lurcher he had was a cracking looking dog he claimed he had bought it off a lurcher man who knew his stuff and had nothing but praise for him .Wether it was true who he said the dog had come of i dont know .atb dell

[poacher3161 1,766]

Some of the old photos i have got of my mates mick douglas bred lurcher he had in the early 80s you can obviously see that this strain was dominant in some of the well known coursing dogs around.Another breeder of a said strain i used to see advertised a lot in the exchange & mart were lockharts lurchers if any body can remember them.atb dell

[poacher3161 1,766]

I have been casting my mind back to another norfolk type lurcher i remember seeing in 81 it was owned by a chap called terry who lived in the village called martin in lincolnshire.My mate knew him well and we had a run out to see him it was a real eye opener as his place was like a car boot even with stuffed lions for sale.The straw coulerd lurcher he had was a cracking looking dog he claimed he had bought it off a lurcher man who knew his stuff and had nothing but praise for him .Wether it was true who he said the dog had come of i dont know .atb dell

The said lurcher man who terry said knew his stuff is on this site and is a well respected figure in the lurcher world. atb dell

[blackpack 70]

Excellent thread. Very interesting.

[cocker 2,654]

Some of the old photos i have got of my mates mick douglas bred lurcher he had in the early 80s you can obviously see that this strain was dominant in some of the well known coursing dogs around.Another breeder of a said strain i used to see advertised a lot in the exchange & mart were lockharts lurchers if any body can remember them.atb dell

 

 

i remember lockharts lurchers herne bay kent, always advertised every week in them old red exchange and mart paper, thats going back a few years now, i would say 30 years or more at least.

i never had one or i dont know anyone who did, however when i often did wonder what they were like.

 

there was always loads of lurchers for sale back then,

 

cocker

[whin 463]

got old strain d slieght lne from away back from the eighties and kept the line going up to date real old fashioned all rounders , yet to see them eqauled for all round lurchers ,just apity more people havent kept good old tracitional lines got pics from the eighties ninties and now of them mate

[poacher3161 1,766]

got old strain d slieght lne from away back from the eighties and kept the line going up to date real old fashioned all rounders , yet to see them eqauled for all round lurchers ,just apity more people havent kept good old tracitional lines got pics from the eighties ninties and now of them mate

Would they be out of an old dog daves brother had called blackie.I used to bump into them alot and have known them for a long time.atb dell

[whin 463]

kizzy kaite mark chapmans bob luke my lana maybe mate thtas alont of history

[poacher3161 1,766]

My memory also can recall a type that was bred by a lad in penistone s.yorks in the 80s a mixture of collie/grey and deerhound .I saw a few of these run on hares [bANNED TEXT] i used to try and run a coursing club in the late 70s to the mid 80s .This was before their was a big saluki dominance in the lurcher scene.The best one i saw was a bitch called mollie owned by the same lad who had a pied dog out of plummers merle [bANNED TEXT] it was first bred to a greyhound.I found it strange that this bitch was never mentioned in his books as she was an outstanding hare dog.atb dell

[poacher3161 1,766]

kizzy kaite mark chapmans bob luke my lana maybe mate thtas alont of history

I believe blackie was the sire to kizzy though i am not 100%.atb dell