fireman 10,932 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Feel the same about being born at the wrong time but if we had been born in the good old days maybe we'd all be on the other side of the world doing time down under lol.I also feel if we dn't hang onto these old time ways then they will die out for sure,been walking in the footsteps of a few old norfolk names latley,McKenzie and Rolf to name but 2 and i feel it's a duty to continue the old traditional ways . Quote Link to post
Yokel Matt 918 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Great Post! Fair play to the bloke i say - as for the Jays comment - words fail me Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Great Post! Fair play to the bloke i say - as for the Jays comment - words fail me Thanks. Well if people aren't told they won't know. Trouble is in this bunny hugging society the truth is hidden. ie badgers only eat worms!!! :no: Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 That Keeper sure is a very busy fellow as in none of that vermin is rotten. In this warm weather it would be rotten in a few days. Yes, he's doing a good job but hopefully pictures like that will stay out of the non shooting publics eye. We have very few Jays here in Ireland (or at least you rarely see them) but they're getting more common with the planting of trees becoming widespread. Are they easy to trap in a larson???? I always fancied getting one stuffed, they're a handsome bird, dead or alive. Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) That Keeper sure is a very busy fellow as in none of that vermin is rotten. In this warm weather it would be rotten in a few days.Yes, he's doing a good job but hopefully pictures like that will stay out of the non shooting publics eye. We have very few Jays here in Ireland (or at least you rarely see them) but they're getting more common with the planting of trees becoming widespread. Are they easy to trap in a larson???? I always fancied getting one stuffed, they're a handsome bird, dead or alive. I've never been able to trap one in a larsen even with a judas bird. Friend of mine traps no end before he starts on magpies using green/blue bantam eggs in his larsen. Edited September 26, 2009 by steviemann Quote Link to post
JoeD 24 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Wow, more gamekeepers, countryman should do this I think. JoeD Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Wow, more gamekeepers, countryman should do this I think. JoeD Magpies are the things I spend most of my time on. Every year I trap well over 100 and that's just nesting time. Evil things they are too. Songbird population has risen dramatically in the last few years since I started. Quote Link to post
comanche 3,038 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 That Keeper sure is a very busy fellow as in none of that vermin is rotten. In this warm weather it would be rotten in a few days.Yes, he's doing a good job but hopefully pictures like that will stay out of the non shooting publics eye. We have very few Jays here in Ireland (or at least you rarely see them) but they're getting more common with the planting of trees becoming widespread. Are they easy to trap in a larson???? I always fancied getting one stuffed, they're a handsome bird, dead or alive. I've never been able to trap one in a larsen even with a judas bird. Friend of mine traps no end before he starts on magpies using green/blue bantam eggs in his larsen. Try one of the simple "lobster-pot" pheasant catchers . Seven or so feet of 3ft high chicken wire,folded in half ,"stitched" along the top with a hazel rod .Wire-mesh funnel entrance . Prop it 6inches off the ground over a few handfulls of wheat /maize top-up every day and after about a week peg it down.You'll probably get the odd squill and woodie but jays seem more confident about going into these flimsy cages than Larson type and i think they avoid the multi-catch cages because they get the micky taken out of them for their fancy feathers by the other corvids. Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I will try and find some pics of gibbets from my time as a keeper .Try and scan them in . Little loyd[name changed now] likes his gibblet lines as well Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) I will try and find some pics of gibbets from my time as a keeper .Try and scan them in .Little loyd[name changed now] likes his gibblet lines as well Excellent Look forward to seeing them. Edited September 27, 2009 by steviemann Quote Link to post
Holdaway 2 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I have had jays in squirrel cages a few times and twice in larsons, both times they were baited with monkey nuts. Also had one in a body grip set for squirrels - and yes the entrance was restricted... I use the wing feathers for fly tying. All the best H Quote Link to post
ratattack 111 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Great Post! Fair play to the bloke i say - as for the Jays comment - words fail me Not at all, they eat mainly nuts, acorns and insects. They will take nestlings and small mammals but nothing like a pair of maggies!! Leave em alone i say, being a keper isn't about killing everything just because they did in the old days where if it had a hookbeak talons or sharp teeth it died! Jays do very little damage compared to other corvids. Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Great Post! Fair play to the bloke i say - as for the Jays comment - words fail me Not at all, they eat mainly nuts, acorns and insects. They will take nestlings and small mammals but nothing like a pair of maggies!! Leave em alone i say, being a keper isn't about killing everything just because they did in the old days where if it had a hookbeak talons or sharp teeth it died! Jays do very little damage compared to other corvids. Yes we all know what you are saying. As keepers and songbird lovers we should be contolling pest species numbers and although WE do do this I for one would never want to kill every last one of any species(even rats!!!). Whilst it is nice to see the odd Jay, pretty as they are they do need to be controlled!!! All those birds on the gibbet were fairly fresh and not rotten so would prove that keeper on the estate was over run with them. Yes they do mainly eat acorns and insects but they DO also eat birds eggs (before the acorns are grown) and the occassional fledgling. This nesting season I have broke 115 magpies, and best part of 100 crows necks. I have shot several dozen too. But I have only accounted for a dozen jays because we have not a huge number of them this year. There are still plenty about and as I said it is nice to see the odd one or two. Being a keeper isn't as you say about killing everything IT'S ABOUT CONSERVATION. Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 i for one love gibbet lines used to hvae one at the farm i worked on this estate is to modern and we have a lot of dog walkers about so its not the best thing to do but i do like to see them Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 i for one love gibbet lines used to hvae one at the farm i worked on this estate is to modern and we have a lot of dog walkers about so its not the best thing to do but i do like to see them I do too. But seems like it's another country tradition that's all but gone. Quote Link to post
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