Alan108 0 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 The Hornet is fast becoming a popular calibre again,loads from 35gn-55 gn can be used,but, to be honest 55 is a bit heavy,best weight is 35gn v-max over 13gns Lil'gun powder,great fox round!!and is good for long distance rabbits(head shot).Also,a lot of feo's are liking this calibre as a first step to centrefire. Alan Quote Link to post
arveyboy 0 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Doesn't surprise me at at we are still waiting for the ammo...GMK are involved and I have NEVER known GMK to be honest over delivery dates! But..as soon as I saw the spec of this ammo a year or two back I was impressed, ...fast and flat for a WMR and carries it's energy very well..and a V-Max tip...got to be worth a try! Yeah this is what I hear. Thing is this dealer said they should be in real quick, wouldn't have thought he'd lead me on... Hope not anyway. Will keep pestering him On my fac, i've got a .22lr and .22wmr,both listed as 22R/F.when I questioned my feo he said that R/F covers ALL rimfire rifles,whether it's .22lr, .22wmr, of .17 hmr. I use my .22lr for short range rabbits on my permission,and the .22wmr is used when I visit some of my permissions where it's difficult to get close, I also have a.22Hornet,in my opinion the best rifle that I own and use,covers the shooting of rabbits AND foxes. Alan That's what I thought/ reckon it should be. But they said for them 22RF means LR, even though they're all rim fire. I'd like a hornet, but I notice on guntrader they're not common, and very expensive. Don't have a centrefire on my permission, but plan on asking one of the many local farmers. Does anyone know of a farmer in norfolk wanting some vermin control? .22 hornet is definitely the calibre to do it all for you. that or .223 but for each you would want to be reloading unless you don't mind spending alot on ammo because if you use it for rabbits without reloading it'll bust your balls. ask some of the .22 hornet shooters on here for their opinions but it is definitely true to say its growing in popularity once more Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I'm really not sure why the Hornet fell out of favour a few years back, it does seem to have a lot going for it ballistically. The problem now is the limited availability of guns and ammo. A Hornet crosses my mind from time to time as there does seem a bit of a gap between my .22WMR and my .223 Rem which the Hornet would fill quite nicely. However, I have not actually found that has caused me a problem yet! The .22WMR also took a right pounding a few years back as many switched to the HMR, but that too is making a comeback, rightly so, I love the WMR, gives me a feeling of confidence walking around with one! Quote Link to post
sully5328 0 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the replies guys and gals. Whats the price difference in .17hmr and .22wmr ammo price, and just how much does wind effect the hmr compared to the wmr Quote Link to post
Alan108 0 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) I buy 250 Winchester Supreme .22WMR 34gn jacketed hollow point for £41., just over £16 per 100,.17hmr is between £8.50-£11 per 50.that's £17-22 per100. The .17 in a 10mph sidewind will move 8-10ins off target at 100yards.I don't have the figures for .22wmr to hand ,but,will look them up. Alan Edited September 28, 2009 by Alan108 Quote Link to post
PAC1 0 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I buy 250 Winchester Supreme .22WMR 34gn jacketed hollow point for £41., just over £16 per 100,.17hmr is between £8.50-£11 per 50.that's £17-22 per100. The .17 in a 10mph sidewind will move 8-10ins off target at 100yards.I don't have the figures for .22wmr to hand ,but,will look them up. Alan I think that 22WMR did suffer with the growing popularity of the 17HMR, and is indeed a more practical proposition giving better ballistic performance in crosswinds, better economy and still enjoys similar advantages of 17HMR against 22LR. Its partly the police support for 17HMR (they don't ricochet Sir) and its still-conditions accuracy that saw its growth. There is a place for both, as the Kinetic energy of a 17HMR is pretty impressive out to 150yds and its a great vermin exterminator, but 22WMR has the cheaper ammo. You pays your money and takes your choice.... Quote Link to post
harrygrey382 1 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I buy 250 Winchester Supreme .22WMR 34gn jacketed hollow point for £41., just over £16 per 100,.17hmr is between £8.50-£11 per 50.that's £17-22 per100. The .17 in a 10mph sidewind will move 8-10ins off target at 100yards.I don't have the figures for .22wmr to hand ,but,will look them up. Alan I was after some of this, but the dealer that sells winchester is having problems getting ammo in. Also, it's not listed in the winchester catalogue (hard copy) so they thought it wasn't availabe. I'll get onto them again maybe - I'd like to compare it with the CCI offering Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I buy 250 Winchester Supreme .22WMR 34gn jacketed hollow point for £41., just over £16 per 100,.17hmr is between £8.50-£11 per 50.that's £17-22 per100. The .17 in a 10mph sidewind will move 8-10ins off target at 100yards.I don't have the figures for .22wmr to hand ,but,will look them up. Alan Those prices are very good, WMR is around £20 here and HMR around £26!!! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) Hi Guys To say I am P****d off is an understatement....I have been eagerly awaiting the arrival of CCI 0073 .22WMR 30G V-Max ammo from GMK. I got fed up with the wait and have contacted GMK about the ammo, unfortunately they have lived up to their normal reputation, ..after a couple of emails and me telling them I was told on THEIR stand at the CLA Game Fair this year they had some on order, the following response has been recieved about this ammo...... Unfortunately you have been given incorrect information. No dealers have ordered this round via GMK, the only way you would obtain this round in the UK is to place a special order with your dealer for a minimum order of 2000 rounds. Delivery 2-3 months! Apologies So...we are all f****d unless you want to order 2000 or more (and wait 6 months at least..that's what GMK 2-3 months means)... ANY suggestions???? Edited October 7, 2009 by Deker Quote Link to post
harrygrey382 1 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi Guys To say I am P****d off is an understatement....I have been eagerly awaiting the arrival of CCI 0073 .22WMR 30G V-Max ammo from GMK. I got fed up with the wait and have contacted GMK about the ammo, unfortunately they have lived up to their normal reputation, ..after a couple of emails and me telling them I was told on THEIR stand at the CLA Game Fair this year they had some on order, the following response has been recieved about this ammo...... Unfortunately you have been given incorrect information. No dealers have ordered this round via GMK, the only way you would obtain this round in the UK is to place a special order with your dealer for a minimum order of 2000 rounds. Delivery 2-3 months! Apologies So...we are all f****d unless you want to order 2000 or more (and wait 6 months at least..that's what GMK 2-3 months means)... ANY suggestions???? What a mess, how ridiculus - why is ammo variation so hard to get in this country! I'll be calling my dealer on the subjetc tomorrow, haven't heard anything yet. So, question is, could we get enough members interested to order 2000 rounds? I'd be in for starters... Quote Link to post
Alan108 0 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I'd be interested in some as well. Alan Quote Link to post
gerald butler 0 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I've got a WMR, mainly for rabbits (headshots unless you don't want the body). Hit them and they're dead... I also plan on taking a fox if the need arrises. I'm paying £17 per hundred for Winchester super-X (40 grain) so looks a bit cheaper than HMR. I've just ordered some CCI Vmax +V 30 grains though - they say these are generally more accurite and pack the biggest WMR punch. Also consider if you can get some 22WRF or Winchester WMR Dynapoints these have the power of 22LR so can in effect giving the a very versatile gun. High power for long range rabbits or foxes and low power for mid/short range rabbits without big meat damage. I'm working on a source for those low power rounds at the moment... Hi harrygrey382,are the lower power WRF/DYNAPOINTS subsonic if so that would make the WMR a very versatile gun, any feedback on the accuracy of this ammo?.Rgds Gerald. Quote Link to post
harrygrey382 1 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I've got a WMR, mainly for rabbits (headshots unless you don't want the body). Hit them and they're dead... I also plan on taking a fox if the need arrises. I'm paying £17 per hundred for Winchester super-X (40 grain) so looks a bit cheaper than HMR. I've just ordered some CCI Vmax +V 30 grains though - they say these are generally more accurite and pack the biggest WMR punch. Also consider if you can get some 22WRF or Winchester WMR Dynapoints these have the power of 22LR so can in effect giving the a very versatile gun. High power for long range rabbits or foxes and low power for mid/short range rabbits without big meat damage. I'm working on a source for those low power rounds at the moment... Hi harrygrey382,are the lower power WRF/DYNAPOINTS subsonic if so that would make the WMR a very versatile gun, any feedback on the accuracy of this ammo?.Rgds Gerald. Hi Gerald, no these loads are not subsonic - yes that would make it one hell of a gun! The WMR dynapoints are more powerful still than high end LR rounds, the WRF are about on a par. From winchester: WRF f/s ft-lb Muzzle 1300 169 100y 1023 105 WMR Dynapoint Muzzle 1550 240 100y 1147 131 LR HP 37g Muzzle 1280 135 100y 1015 85 WMR JHP 40g Muzzle 1910 324 100y 1326 156 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I've got a WMR, mainly for rabbits (headshots unless you don't want the body). Hit them and they're dead... I also plan on taking a fox if the need arrises. I'm paying £17 per hundred for Winchester super-X (40 grain) so looks a bit cheaper than HMR. I've just ordered some CCI Vmax +V 30 grains though - they say these are generally more accurite and pack the biggest WMR punch. Also consider if you can get some 22WRF or Winchester WMR Dynapoints these have the power of 22LR so can in effect giving the a very versatile gun. High power for long range rabbits or foxes and low power for mid/short range rabbits without big meat damage. I'm working on a source for those low power rounds at the moment... Hi harrygrey382,are the lower power WRF/DYNAPOINTS subsonic if so that would make the WMR a very versatile gun, any feedback on the accuracy of this ammo?.Rgds Gerald. Hi Gerald, no these loads are not subsonic - yes that would make it one hell of a gun! The WMR dynapoints are more powerful still than high end LR rounds, the WRF are about on a par. From winchester: WRF f/s ft-lb Muzzle 1300 169 100y 1023 105 WMR Dynapoint Muzzle 1550 240 100y 1147 131 LR HP 37g Muzzle 1280 135 100y 1015 85 WMR JHP 40g Muzzle 1910 324 100y 1326 156 I would have to suggest that WRF is a bit of a non starter, it is very difficult to find and is all but dead in the water.... http://www.chuckhawks.com/22WRF.htm Quote Link to post
harrygrey382 1 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I would have to suggest that WRF is a bit of a non starter, it is very difficult to find and is all but dead in the water....http://www.chuckhawks.com/22WRF.htm difficult to find yes - but it means you can fire LR power rounds in a 22mag gun. So less noise and meat damage making it a very useful all round gun Quote Link to post
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