adbirdy 14 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Just need a few pointers if anyone has any. I have a 5 month old cocker whichI have been training using Joe Irving's book. He is a keen retriever and I have only been giving him one or two retrieves every other day. Recently he has taken to not bringing the dummy back to hand, instead he seems to play with it and seems reluctant to bring it in to hand. Does any one have any suggestions as to cure this problem or will he just grow out of it as he gets older? Cheers for any help Ade Quote Link to post
rickyspringer 15 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 leave the retriveing for a while, when you do introduce it, do it in an alleyway or hall. the dog will bring it back to you in theory. Good Luck mate. Quote Link to post
hily 379 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 leave the retriveing for a while, when you do introduce it, do it in an alleyway or hall. the dog will bring it back to you in theory. Good Luck mate. as above and make as if you are running the other way as she collects the dummy. Quote Link to post
j davies 8 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Just need a few pointers if anyone has any. I have a 5 month old cocker whichI have been training using Joe Irving's book. He is a keen retriever and I have only been giving him one or two retrieves every other day. Recently he has taken to not bringing the dummy back to hand, instead he seems to play with it and seems reluctant to bring it in to hand. Does any one have any suggestions as to cure this problem or will he just grow out of it as he gets older? Cheers for any help Ade hi i got a year old one now i just play in the house with her to fetch things back i want start her until she is14 months old she is to young to learn i think you will have trouble when she is older. i have a 4 year old one now i did what your doing and he want fetch anything back now to me fetch them out the cover and drops it in the field Quote Link to post
welshboy454 3 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Just need a few pointers if anyone has any. I have a 5 month old cocker whichI have been training using Joe Irving's book. He is a keen retriever and I have only been giving him one or two retrieves every other day. Recently he has taken to not bringing the dummy back to hand, instead he seems to play with it and seems reluctant to bring it in to hand. Does any one have any suggestions as to cure this problem or will he just grow out of it as he gets older? Cheers for any help Ade hi i got a year old one now i just play in the house with her to fetch things back i want start her until she is14 months old she is to young to learn i think you will have trouble when she is older. i have a 4 year old one now i did what your doing and he want fetch anything back now to me fetch them out the cover and drops it in the field Worth viewing this video It is about Force Fetch -it does not seem as bad as I thought it would be from a welfare point of view. The trick seems to be reinforcing who is boss and lots of reward/praise. Quote Link to post
j davies 8 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Just need a few pointers if anyone has any. I have a 5 month old cocker whichI have been training using Joe Irving's book. He is a keen retriever and I have only been giving him one or two retrieves every other day. Recently he has taken to not bringing the dummy back to hand, instead he seems to play with it and seems reluctant to bring it in to hand. Does any one have any suggestions as to cure this problem or will he just grow out of it as he gets older? Cheers for any help Ade hi i got a year old one now i just play in the house with her to fetch things back i want start her until she is14 months old she is to young to learn i think you will have trouble when she is older. i have a 4 year old one now i did what your doing and he want fetch anything back now to me fetch them out the cover and drops it in the field Worth viewing this video It is about Force Fetch -it does not seem as bad as I thought it would be from a welfare point of view. The trick seems to be reinforcing who is boss and lots of reward/praise. seen the vids what a total wast of time that was all they seam to do is make them hold it want to see some of a dog 40 yeards away and get it to fetch it back any on of any on here Quote Link to post
adbirdy 14 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I don't have a recall problem he comes in very well to the recall whistle. He retrieves dummies well but will not bring them right to hand, he just runs around with it about an arms length away and just seems to show off with it. I have tried backing off from him, crouching right down so as not to be intimidating but nothing seems to get him closer than that arms length away, it's very fustrating. I have always been very careful to never snatch anyhthing from the dog as I know this can cause problems, so I'm really not sure how to proceed. Ade Quote Link to post
welshboy454 3 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) Just need a few pointers if anyone has any. I have a 5 month old cocker whichI have been training using Joe Irving's book. He is a keen retriever and I have only been giving him one or two retrieves every other day. Recently he has taken to not bringing the dummy back to hand, instead he seems to play with it and seems reluctant to bring it in to hand. Does any one have any suggestions as to cure this problem or will he just grow out of it as he gets older? Cheers for any help Ade hi i got a year old one now i just play in the house with her to fetch things back i want start her until she is14 months old she is to young to learn i think you will have trouble when she is older. i have a 4 year old one now i did what your doing and he want fetch anything back now to me fetch them out the cover and drops it in the field Worth viewing this video It is about Force Fetch -it does not seem as bad as I thought it would be from a welfare point of view. The trick seems to be reinforcing who is boss and lots of reward/praise. seen the vids what a total wast of time that was all they seam to do is make them hold it want to see some of a dog 40 yeards away and get it to fetch it back any on of any on here I think that is stage one in the training getting the dog to hold on command then they proceed to fetch with the hold already instilled then move on to full retrieve and delivery. It is all building block stuff with hold being first. This is bit further into a program of conditioning the dog to fetch on command. This is not because he wants to fetch but because he has been ordered to do it a subtle difference. Edited September 18, 2009 by welshboy454 Quote Link to post
bigbailey 90 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Having the same problem with my lab at the moment but hes 2 years old. Very keep to retrieve but not so keen to come back to me with it. Hes good on recall without a dummy. Tried everything i can think but seems to look like he thinks the prize belongs to him. Im trying him on a long rope starting today so i have complete control over him. Read this it may be of some use to you Visit My Website Quote Link to post
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