mushroom 12,878 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 (edited) Right over the last couple of days my little staff has become a w@nker!!! she is 18-19 months old poss due in season soon. She is refusing to obey some commands, dissapearing on her own back into thicket hunting, has become unsteady to shot, ie I fire my rifle she has been trained to sit and stay to the sound now she runs in. When I have told her to sit and stay I'll go creeping about, when I return she is in a completely different place because she wanted to move!!! I know this is sad but the little git is really gettin to me. The worst thing that grates is that two weeks ago the only issue was how to stop her jumping up when people stroked her. Could of killed her last night after blatently refusing to retrieve a squirrel(which she has done several times), and after I shot a rabbit dead on it's feet it got into the hedge infront of the dog I sent her on she ran straight past where the rabbit entered the hedge (yes she did see where it entered) and started f#cking about, I had to go into the hedge to retrieve it myself. Thing is it had only gone bout two foot into the hedge before succumbing to accupel poisoning. Any sensible ideas on how to rectify these issues would be greatly appreciated. P.S. Keep all crap comments to yourself unless it is constructive critisism!!!!!!!!!! Edited September 12, 2009 by mushroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,878 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Any help please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreterni 29 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Don't know much about staffies but could she be in an adolescent age bracket, maybe calm down soon. I would guess that you would need to keep up the consistency of your commands and what you expect. My wee jrt is a shit when she's coming into season becomes ignorant and pushy, tries to fight with the other dogs etc. I tend to leave her back when she's like that and let it blow over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BEARINATOR 2,867 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 It could just be with her coming in to season mate, as ferreterni said just keep up the consistency of the commands Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreterni 29 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I know little about staffs, only really seen one and it wasn't mine. But that was a boneheaded dog. Would just keep coming on and on no matter what you said to it haha was very friendly and looking stroked, but you couldn't stop it at all. Was easier to put her in garden at times. So I do know they are very hard headed dogs, and you will likely be grey before you get through it haha especially if this is the bitch coming into season, be once or twice a year from now on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,878 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I know little about staffs, only really seen one and it wasn't mine. But that was a boneheaded dog. Would just keep coming on and on no matter what you said to it haha was very friendly and looking stroked, but you couldn't stop it at all. Was easier to put her in garden at times. So I do know they are very hard headed dogs, and you will likely be grey before you get through it haha especially if this is the bitch coming into season, be once or twice a year from now on. not twice a year, please no.... The dog is a very good worker normaly, listens and understands well. Just this last couple of weeks she's become hard work. Like I said she's just scatty and not listening, so I aint taking her out for a while (retrieving anyway) but I'm hoping that this attitude is not a permanent fixture otherwise I'm in the need for a new hunting buddy and she'll need a new job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreterni 29 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Give it time, my jrt is the same. Good most of the time with these off spells. Annoying but you can work round it. I also find with my russell if I'm to easy on her she really pushes her luck, can't let her think for herself to much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,878 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Give it time, my jrt is the same. Good most of the time with these off spells. Annoying but you can work round it. I also find with my russell if I'm to easy on her she really pushes her luck, can't let her think for herself to much. Totally agree certain dogs and definately certain breeds cannot be given an inch I'm always on top of her tricks and mischief.... usually This allows the dog to know it's place I think she's just getting ahead of herself if that makes any sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nobjerk 161 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Give it time, my jrt is the same. Good most of the time with these off spells. Annoying but you can work round it. I also find with my russell if I'm to easy on her she really pushes her luck, can't let her think for herself to much. Totally agree certain dogs and definately certain breeds cannot be given an inch I'm always on top of her tricks and mischief.... usually This allows the dog to know it's place I think she's just getting ahead of herself if that makes any sense try an innotek collar and a back to basics training program , i find the collar gives you an arm of about 300yds long to correct the behavior at range. some dogs ive worked with (that had a dash of bull blood) were aware of the fact that when the lead was removed or when taken to an open area it would mean freedom , the collar just reminds them whos in charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbwilliams 0 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 is she pure staff mate or crossed with something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,878 Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Give it time, my jrt is the same. Good most of the time with these off spells. Annoying but you can work round it. I also find with my russell if I'm to easy on her she really pushes her luck, can't let her think for herself to much. Totally agree certain dogs and definately certain breeds cannot be given an inch I'm always on top of her tricks and mischief.... usually This allows the dog to know it's place I think she's just getting ahead of herself if that makes any sense try an innotek collar and a back to basics training program , i find the collar gives you an arm of about 300yds long to correct the behavior at range. some dogs ive worked with (that had a dash of bull blood) were aware of the fact that when the lead was removed or when taken to an open area it would mean freedom , the collar just reminds them whos in charge. I've no quarms about using one just think that's a last resort. I've managed to get a staff up to a level that has impressed BASC associated judges without, so I think I'll persevere for a bit longer I'll put up for say about three months before I consider using the pain training but only on the faults that she has, not for new lessons. My better half reckons she is just getting to that headstrong stage that makes or breaks a dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waidmann 105 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 my guess is that it has to do with being in season. any problems with young dogs i always take it back to training,90% of the time its not the dogs fault re do the retrieve,recall,and down( down i find difficult with headstrong dogs,as its a submissive position) this will work i'm sure. is she hyper before you go out? let her run next to the bike( in a harness) and only fit a "working" collar when she is to work( with blood trailing dogs that work different jobs this is the "switch" to concentrate,nose down or the gaffer will be pissed!!!) consequence and patience. if the dog won't retrieve a seen bunny then make it.take her by the collar and put her nose to it( not as roughly as you may like!) and make her carry it. if this means breaking off the shooting for an hour so be it.she must learn or be a ball on your chain. good luck and i would be interested in how you get on bud. atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dog fox 16 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 dont know what your bothered about pal ,she a very abbidiant dog for a staffie ,a nice steady little dog that likes what she does . but my personal choice would have been a spaniel if i was doing what you do with her . the bulls dont like being told off in any .they can sulk for some time ,maybe youve upset her somewere along the line .but i,d be happy with what she,s doing for you like i said a nice well behaved bitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dog fox 16 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) double post Edited September 16, 2009 by dog fox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Maybe do nothing with her for a week or so. just short walks. then do a retreive, see how she does. Almost the "back to basics" approach. I have done that myself and it is something that can work. Good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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