Guest busterdog Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 ive meet some furys there a very hard fighting breed there related to barty gorman he was the best traveling man to put his fist up tyson also looks like dan rooney id bet there related he had some stopping power unbelievable im not sure about tysons boxing ability but i bet in time he will be a big name in the travelling world as a figher believe me them boys are breed to fight maybe with less mouth more experience he'll be good very fight hes learning Bartley was full of wind and piss, he got knocked out on a regular basis, but he was old school and a gent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akton 15 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I normally dont get dragged into a boxing debate Bartley was a topman, wether or not it was yrs ago doesn't change the facts. Tyson Fury needs good opponents and there is no one, man enough to get in the ring with the big fella. He needs ring time and lots of it,so how does the guy train for the fights if nobody will have a go fact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,060 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Tyson Fury needs good opponents and there is no one, man enough to get in the ring with the big fella.He needs ring time and lots of it,so how does the guy train for the fights if nobody will have a go fact He needs to do what the rest of the boxing population do....learn his trade in the gym with quality sparring....then learn from every fight stepping up in quality as he learns and matures..... Judging from his last fight he,s already slightly out of his depth and needs a hell of a good trainer to bring him on....personally i think he has faults that cannot and will not be corrected which will show him coming up short at top level.....but best of luck to the young chap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
No messin 2 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Tyson Fury might not be a good fighter, but neither was Bruno and look how far he got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,060 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Tyson Fury might not be a good fighter, but neither was Bruno and look how far he got. Cant argue with that its a fair point......all id say is Fury has an obvious and clear weakness that anyone who has taken a few digs can quickly recognise.....and being a natural fault as opposed to a technical fault i think it will be hard to get him out of.....and the higher level he fights at the more it will be exposed. Whereas frank obviously had faults......but different faults that didnt stop him making the best of what he had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 ive meet some furys there a very hard fighting breed there related to barty gorman he was the best traveling man to put his fist up tyson also looks like dan rooney id bet there related he had some stopping power unbelievable im not sure about tysons boxing ability but i bet in time he will be a big name in the travelling world as a figher believe me them boys are breed to fight maybe with less mouth more experience he'll be good very fight hes learning Bartley was full of wind and piss, he got knocked out on a regular basis, but he was old school and a gent. you should go over to nottingham and repeat this to bartleys son shaun im sure he would be interested to hear it coming from you man to man especially now his fathers dead and cant answer for himself i know where he is if you dont know the way pm me if you want to ican give him a ring and let him know your on your way and pick you up some where along the way if you like . bartley was the best man out there on his day second to none. john was good make no mistake about that but bartley was a different league if he was ever knocked out it was by a bus. haslam side winded him from behind in coventry and split the roof of his mouth open bartley got up and destroyed him in seconds . theres alot of piss and wind on this site and talk is cheap and people can tap crap into the key board all day and night weather its slagging good coursing dogs or good men. bartleys grandmother was my grand fathers sister as is john fury a second cousin to me. let me assure you people who slate these men and doubt theyre ability with theyre hands if you were in the company of these men you would tremble and squeal like pigs if you told them they were piss and wind to theyre faces as for being knocked out the only way you stop them is to kill em as for tyson hes not been able to train for some time because of a back injury what you dont take into account is hes still a boy hes not matured yet give im a few years and hes going to be the new gerry cooney only better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martini 2 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 ive meet some furys there a very hard fighting breed there related to barty gorman he was the best traveling man to put his fist up tyson also looks like dan rooney id bet there related he had some stopping power unbelievable im not sure about tysons boxing ability but i bet in time he will be a big name in the travelling world as a figher believe me them boys are breed to fight maybe with less mouth more experience he'll be good very fight hes learning Bartley was full of wind and piss, he got knocked out on a regular basis, but he was old school and a gent. you should go over to nottingham and repeat this to bartleys son shaun im sure he would be interested to hear it coming from you man to man especially now his fathers dead and cant answer for himself i know where he is if you dont know the way pm me if you want to ican give him a ring and let him know your on your way and pick you up some where along the way if you like . bartley was the best man out there on his day second to none. john was good make no mistake about that but bartley was a different league if he was ever knocked out it was by a bus. haslam side winded him from behind in coventry and split the roof of his mouth open bartley got up and destroyed him in seconds . theres alot of piss and wind on this site and talk is cheap and people can tap crap into the key board all day and night weather its slagging good coursing dogs or good men. bartleys grandmother was my grand fathers sister as is john fury a second cousin to me. let me assure you people who slate these men and doubt theyre ability with theyre hands if you were in the company of these men you would tremble and squeal like pigs if you told them they were piss and wind to theyre faces as for being knocked out the only way you stop them is to kill em as for tyson hes not been able to train for some time because of a back injury what you dont take into account is hes still a boy hes not matured yet give im a few years and hes going to be the new gerry cooney only better well said brookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdan 11 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) well said brookie and as a travellin man i never heard barty gorman ever getting beat and good luck to tyson fury Edited September 13, 2009 by bigdan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,879 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 this was all I could find video wise of the fight Fury v McDermott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,060 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 [quote name='brookie' date='Sep 13 2009, 09:49 PM' post='1232808' bartley was the best man out there on his day second to none. john was good make no mistake about that but bartley was a different league if he was ever knocked out it was by a bus. haslam side winded him from behind in coventry and split the roof of his mouth open bartley got up and destroyed him in seconds . theres alot of piss and wind on this site and talk is cheap and people can tap crap into the key board all day and night weather its slagging good coursing dogs or good men. bartleys grandmother was my grand fathers sister as is john fury a second cousin to me. let me assure you people who slate these men and doubt theyre ability with theyre hands if you were in the company of these men you would tremble and squeal like pigs if you told them they were piss and wind to theyre faces as for being knocked out the only way you stop them is to kill em as for tyson hes not been able to train for some time because of a back injury what you dont take into account is hes still a boy hes not matured yet give im a few years and hes going to be the new gerry cooney only better Is being the next Gerry Cooney a good thing then ? ...or is the only similarity the fact they are both tall white men ? Gerry Cooney would never have fought for a world title had he been black !.......saying a talented young boxer is going to be the next gerry cooney is like saying a talented young footballer is going to be the next .....gary stevens ??....cooney was demolished by michael spinks in 5 one sided rounds....spinks was then almsot decapitated by tyson...and i dont even rate tyson that highly !!!.....so im sure young tyson fury would be setting his sights a little higher than gerry cooney.... I would never disrespect any man as i know the dedication and commitment it takes fighting at any level......but comparing gypsy bareknuckle fighters to top level pro boxers is both silly and meaningless.......tyson furys heritage is of no relevance to his boxing career....you either choose boxing or knuckles....he chose boxing and so must be judged as a boxer.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Respect to both lads for stepping into the ring, but what a joke, that lad fury is a big man with no boxing skills at all. But if ya dont chance an arm you wont break a leg, best of luck to him, he will need it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Is being the next Gerry Cooney a good thing then ? ...or is the only similarity the fact they are both tall white men ? Gerry Cooney would never have fought for a world title had he been black !.......saying a talented young boxer is going to be the next gerry cooney is like saying a talented young footballer is going to be the next .....gary stevens ??....cooney was demolished by michael spinks in 5 one sided rounds....spinks was then almsot decapitated by tyson...and i dont even rate tyson that highly !!!.....so im sure young tyson fury would be setting his sights a little higher than gerry cooney.... I would never disrespect any man as i know the dedication and commitment it takes fighting at any level......but comparing gypsy bareknuckle fighters to top level pro boxers is both silly and meaningless.......tyson furys heritage is of no relevance to his boxing career....you either choose boxing or knuckles....he chose boxing and so must be judged as a boxer.... gnasher an interesting point you made about gerry cooney not getting a title shot if he had been black just for the record gerry cooney had 28 wins 3 defeats 24 kos 2 of those defeats came after a come back when he was well and truly over the hill thats when spinks beat him the same spinks that had two decisions over larry holmes and holmes was one of the all time greats some of cooneys victims included jimmy young ron lyle ken norton who he kod in 54 secs also eddie lopez who was usa heavy weight champion larry holmes says cooney was a much harder puncher than earnie shavers ring magazine has cooney ranked 53rd in its all time list 100 greatest punchers so i think he earned his heavy weight title shot on merit not on what colour he was for the record bartley was a very talented boxer as well eddie thomas offered him a contract and publicly stated he was in his opinion the best heavy weight in the country but bartleys heart was in the bare knuckle job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david2363 42 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Tyson Fury might not be a good fighter, but neither was Bruno and look how far he got. Respect to Any man who steps inside the square ring at any level. But Bruno if nothing else was fit as a butchers dog , in great condition. What iv seen of Tyson he needs to take his conditioning more seriously. Bruno was limited, but he took the game seriously, and he had a dig on him (and a very destructive jab) If you can imagine big Frank and "Tyson" Fury in a match, Bruno knocks him out every time in the first round. "Tyson" Fury is not a good fighter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest busterdog Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 ive meet some furys there a very hard fighting breed there related to barty gorman he was the best traveling man to put his fist up tyson also looks like dan rooney id bet there related he had some stopping power unbelievable im not sure about tysons boxing ability but i bet in time he will be a big name in the travelling world as a figher believe me them boys are breed to fight maybe with less mouth more experience he'll be good very fight hes learning Bartley was full of wind and piss, he got knocked out on a regular basis, but he was old school and a gent. you should go over to nottingham and repeat this to bartleys son shaun im sure he would be interested to hear it coming from you man to man especially now his fathers dead and cant answer for himself i know where he is if you dont know the way pm me if you want to ican give him a ring and let him know your on your way and pick you up some where along the way if you like . bartley was the best man out there on his day second to none. john was good make no mistake about that but bartley was a different league if he was ever knocked out it was by a bus. haslam side winded him from behind in coventry and split the roof of his mouth open bartley got up and destroyed him in seconds . theres alot of piss and wind on this site and talk is cheap and people can tap crap into the key board all day and night weather its slagging good coursing dogs or good men. bartleys grandmother was my grand fathers sister as is john fury a second cousin to me. let me assure you people who slate these men and doubt theyre ability with theyre hands if you were in the company of these men you would tremble and squeal like pigs if you told them they were piss and wind to theyre faces as for being knocked out the only way you stop them is to kill em as for tyson hes not been able to train for some time because of a back injury what you dont take into account is hes still a boy hes not matured yet give im a few years and hes going to be the new gerry cooney only better If you look at my post i said barty was a gent and knew him well and i also now sean well, i don't talk ill of any one out of mallice.Tell sean Cash said hello and he knows were to find me and get you're tongue from up his arse :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6868 0 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) I dont reckon any amount of quality sparring, training etc will take fury to the top he should feck off and join the circus or something. why not go to the U.S then instead of sitting here bitching no one wants to fight him or spar with him?its as simple as that.. and well said busterdog the sites full of it. Edited September 14, 2009 by 6868 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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