Foxgun Tom 75 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 We have all heard at sometime, from a vegan or an anti? that they would'nt eat meat or use the by products from animals? How the "feck!!" do they avoid it in this day and age? below is a list of products that are derived from animals that usually end up as some-ones lunch. Can anyone tell me where we scource any alternatives? Most vegans will be using animal by products without even knowing it? and that makes me smile at the hypocrisy of the lifestyle Tom GENERAL MEDICAL & HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS antibodies (immunoglobins) beef insulin bovine collagen - used as injections to fill in scars bovine fibrinolysin (brand name- Elase) ointment for necrotic tissue bovine super oxide - dismutase cream (Orgotein) - cosmetic skin cream to prevent tissue aging. bovine thrombin (brand name- Thrombinar) clotting agent for blood culture medium - diagnosis fetal bovine serum - tissue cultures Hyaluronidase - efficient drug use PTH - control tetany pegademase - bovine derivative (brand name- Adagen) - for patients who are immuno-compromised...helps prevent white blood cells from breaking down. pill capsules - GELATIN whole serum - vaccine manufacturing PRODUCTS FROM OVARIES estrogen progesterone - a reproductive hormone PRODUCT FROM STOMACHS pepsin - aid in protein digestion rennet - aid in milk digestion PRODUCTS FROM THYROIDS bovine thyroid (Thyrar) a thyroid replacement TSH - thyroid diagnosis thyroid extract - hypothrodism thyroid hormones myxedema cretinism PRODUCTS FROM ADRENALS cortisone - for arthritis, skin allergies, anti-inflammatory medicine epinephrine - aid in raising blood pressure, heart disorders, and allergies PRODUCTS FROM LIVERS heparin - anti-coagulant, prevents gangrene liver extract - treatment of anemia intrinsic factor - pernicious anemia Vitamin B12 - prevention of B-complex deficiencies PRODUCTS FROM LUNGS heparin - anti-coagulant, prevents gangrene PRODUCTS FROM BLOOD plasma protein blood albumin - RH factor typing Fraction I - hemophilia Fraction V - kills viruses iron for anemia thrombin - blood coagulant protein extracts diagnostic microbiology PRODUCTS FROM HOG HEARTS heart valves for human transplant PRODUCTS FROM INTESTINES medical sutures - surgery PRODUCTS FROM BONES bone marrow - blood disorders bone meal - calcium and phosphorous source mineral source in supplements collagen and bone for plastic surgery soft cartilage - plastic surgery xiphisternal cartilage (breastbone) plastic surgery PRODUCTS FROM PANCREAS chymotrypsin - contact surgery diastase - aid in starch digestion glucagon - treat hypoglycemia insulin - diabetes mellitus pancreatin - aid digestion trypsin - for burns, wounds, and infection - promotes healing - aid in protein digestion and in cleaning wounds PRODUCTS FROM PITUITARY GLANDS ACTH - arthritis, allergies, rheumatic fever, skin and eye inflammations pressor hormone - regulates blood pressure prolactin - promotes lactation vasopressin - controls intestinal and renal functions PRODUCTS FROM SPINAL CORDS cholesterol - hormone products OTHER MEDICAL AND HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS nitroglycerine antibodies (immunoglobins) beef insulin bovine collagen - used as injections to fill in scars bovine fibrinolysin (Elase - brand name) ointment for use on necrotic tissue bovine super oxide - dismutase cream (Orgotein) - cosmetic skin cream to prevent tissue aging bovine thrombin (Thrombinar - brand name) clotting agent for blood culture medium - diagnosis fetal bovine serum - tissue cultures Hyaluronidase - efficient drug use PTH - control tetany pegademase - bovine derivative (Adagen - brand name) - - for patients who are immuno-compromised - helps prevent white blood cells from breaking down. pill capsules - GELATIN whole serum - vaccine manufacturing *** GENERAL FOOD PRODUCTS *** PRODUCTS FROM CATTLE, SHEEP, HOG FLESH a huge variety of fresh, frozen, and pre-cooked meats and prepared and processed meat products PRODUCTS FROM MILK/DAIRY butter casein (proteins) cheese and cheese products cream food ethanol ice cream and ice cream mixes lactose (carbohydrates) milk powder sherbet whey (proteins) fats (lipids) yogurt PRODUCTS FROM FATS AND FATTY ACIDS (edible) chewing gum lard oleo margarine oleo shortening oleostearin pharmaceuticals rennet for cheese (sheep) rennet for cheese (sheep) shortening PRODUCTS FROM BLOOD blood sausage bone meal cake mixes deep-fry batters egg substitute gravy mixes imitation seafood pasta whipped toppings and coffee whiteners PRODUCTS FROM BONES whitener in refined sugar PRODUCTS FROM BONE, HORNS, AND HOOVES gelatin capsules gelatin deserts ice cream, malts and shakes marshmallow potted meats PRODUCTS FROM INTESTINES sausage casings PRODUCTS FROM HIDES and SKINS sausage casings gelatin candies and confectionery flavorings foods gelatin desserts ice cream marshmallows mayonnaise yogurt *** INDUSTRIAL AND CONSUMER PRODUCTS *** PRODUCTS FROM MILK adhesives animal feed buttons carriers for human medicine cosmetics glue pharmaceuticals sizing specialty plastics veterinary medicines PRODUCTS FROM BLOOD adhesives bone marrow bone meal fabric printing and dyeing leather-treating agents livestock feed minerals plaster retardant plywood adhesive diagnostic microbiology from colloidal proteins - glue for automobile bodies protein source in feeds sticking agent textile sizing PRODUCTS FROM BONES bone charcoal pencils high grade steel bone handles bone jewelry mineral source in feed fertilizer dried bones buttons bone china glass porcelain enamel water filters whitener in refined sugar PRODUCTS FROM BONE, HORNS, AND HOOVES adhesives bandage strips collagen cold cream cellophane wrap and tape crochet needles dice dog biscuits emery boards and cloth fertilizer glycerine laminated wood products neatsfoot oil photographic film plywood and paneling shampoo and conditioner wallpaper and wallpaper paste syringes PRODUCTS FROM BRAINS anti-aging cream cholesterol PRODUCTS FROM FATS AND FATTY ACIDS (edible and inedible) animal foods biodegradable detergents biodiesel cellophane cement ceramics chalk chemicals cosmetics crayons creams and lotions (sheep) deodorants detergents explosives fertilizer fiber softeners floor wax glycerin glycerol antifreeze herbicides horse and livestock feeds industrial oils and lubricants insecticides insulation linoleum livestock feed lubricants makeup matches medicines mink oil nitroglycerine oil polishes ointment bases oleostearin paints paraffin perfumes pet foods pharmaceuticals plasticizers plastics printing rollers protein hair conditioner protein hair shampoo putty rubber products shaving cream shoe cream soaps solvents stearic acid (sheep) tallow for tanning textiles tires water proofing agents weed killers PRODUCTS FROM GALLSTONES ornaments PRODUCTS FROM HAIR air filters artist's paint brush felt and rug padding insulation material non-wovens plastering material textiles upholstering material PRODUCTS FROM HIDES and SKINS belts collagen-based adhesives (from trimmings) bandages emery boards glues -for papermaking, bookbinding, cabinetmaking sheetrock wallpaper drum head (sheep) pharmaceuticals photographic materials leather sporting goods leather wearing apparel luggage pigskin garments, gloves, and shoes porcine burn dressings for burn victims shoes and boots upholstery wallets PRODUCTS FROM HOOVES AND HORNS chessmen combs buttons fertilizer horn handles imitation ivory inedible bone meal livestock feeds ornaments piano keys plant food PRODUCTS FROM INTESTINES instrument strings sausage casings tennis racquet strings PRODUCTS FROM MANURE fertilizer - used in gardens, lawns and farm cropland nitrogen potash phosphorus minor minerals OTHER PRODUCTS FROM CATTLE SOURCES airplane lubricants and runway foam car polishes and waxes hydraulic brake fluid Stearic acid - helps rubber in tires hold shape under steady surface friction steel ball bearings containing bone charcoal textiles for car upholstery various machine oils and viscous fluids PRODUCTS FROM WOOL asphalt binder carpet clothing cosmetics fabrics felt insulation lanolin medical ointments paint and plaster binder pelt products rouge base rug pads upholstery woolen goods worsted fabric yarns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mayhem 1 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 id like to know as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mexlad 189 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 lol verry good point mate well researched Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 It will be a brave veggie or vegan, anti or tree hugger that comes back at this, but the law of averages says there is always one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Tom I had a very interesting debate with a vegetarian on another forum, yesterday and this morning...........she couldn't abide an animal dieing to feed her essentially however she ate cheese and drank milk! I pointed out the bye product of the milk industry is calves which then get eaten.......so by eating cheese she was creating veal! and that she may as well eat the meat that she is creating by making teh cow give birth and lactate amazing teh list of stuff derived from animals bye products Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 COMPO said: Tom I had a very interesting debate with a vegetarian on another forum, yesterday and this morning...........she couldn't abide an animal dieing to feed her essentially however she ate cheese and drank milk! I pointed out the bye product of the milk industry is calves which then get eaten.......so by eating cheese she was creating veal! and that she may as well eat the meat that she is creating by making teh cow give birth and lactate amazing teh list of stuff derived from animals bye products Just to stir things up a bit, all and I mean ALL organic/natural beers use "finings" to clear the ale before it's served. "Finings" are derived from fish scales! If your veggie drinks real ale then S/He is a meat-eater! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
migmog 1 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 stealthy1 said: It will be a brave veggie or vegan, anti or tree hugger that comes back at this, but the law of averages says there is always one Antis dont come in ones they hant got the bottle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gundogbob 1 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 as someone said elier about milk i wonder if these so called vegies that drink /eat milk products realise what zero grazing means in making milk would they drink it if they realized what the cows go through Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 RicW said: Just to stir things up a bit, all and I mean ALL organic/natural beers use "finings" to clear the ale before it's served. "Finings" are derived from fish scales! If your veggie drinks real ale then S/He is a meat-eater! Finings are derived from catfish swim bladders nowadays. There are, however vegan alternatives. So the silly buggers can drink themselves into a stupor with a clear conscience. Still have to take Vit B12 supplements derived from animals though. No way round that, that I know of. And before the Anti-spotters get going, no I'm NOT a bloody vegan. Or a vegetarian..... or an Anti..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 droid said: RicW said: Just to stir things up a bit, all and I mean ALL organic/natural beers use "finings" to clear the ale before it's served. "Finings" are derived from fish scales! If your veggie drinks real ale then S/He is a meat-eater! Finings are derived from catfish swim bladders nowadays. There are, however vegan alternatives. So the silly buggers can drink themselves into a stupor with a clear conscience. Still have to take Vit B12 supplements derived from animals though. No way round that, that I know of. And before the Anti-spotters get going, no I'm NOT a bloody vegan. Or a vegetarian..... or an Anti..... You just know a lot about beer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 COMPO said: droid said: RicW said: Just to stir things up a bit, all and I mean ALL organic/natural beers use "finings" to clear the ale before it's served. "Finings" are derived from fish scales! If your veggie drinks real ale then S/He is a meat-eater! Finings are derived from catfish swim bladders nowadays. There are, however vegan alternatives. So the silly buggers can drink themselves into a stupor with a clear conscience. Still have to take Vit B12 supplements derived from animals though. No way round that, that I know of. And before the Anti-spotters get going, no I'm NOT a bloody vegan. Or a vegetarian..... or an Anti..... You just know a lot about beer Droid and me both. We're bikers dammit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve McHardy 2 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 RicW said: COMPO said: droid said: RicW said: Just to stir things up a bit, all and I mean ALL organic/natural beers use "finings" to clear the ale before it's served. "Finings" are derived from fish scales! If your veggie drinks real ale then S/He is a meat-eater! Finings are derived from catfish swim bladders nowadays. There are, however vegan alternatives. So the silly buggers can drink themselves into a stupor with a clear conscience. Still have to take Vit B12 supplements derived from animals though. No way round that, that I know of. And before the Anti-spotters get going, no I'm NOT a bloody vegan. Or a vegetarian..... or an Anti..... that was some piece of research i had know idea about half that stuff i love eating meat so its great to know im getting more than i thought. kill it cook it eat it. You just know a lot about beer Droid and me both. We're bikers dammit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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