guyliath 15 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hello all, Probabley going to open a can of worms here, but...... I am a keen rough shooter/ wildfowler. most of my shooting consists of rabbits, pigeons and foxes with the shotgun. I am currently teaching myself snaring aswell. I would love to get a terrier to bolt rabbits and foxes to the gun, and some ratting if i can get it. Am I dreaming that there might be an ideal working breed out there for me? Cheers for your help, G Quote Link to post
half n' half 8 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 you could try a plummer.they,ll bolt rabbits,kill a few rats and if they don't bolt the fox you won't be waiting long for the dog to surface. Quote Link to post
guyliath 15 Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 you could try a plummer.they,ll bolt rabbits,kill a few rats and if they don't bolt the fox you won't be waiting long for the dog to surface. Hi Half and half, thanks for the advice, if the dog comes back to the surface i get the impression that the fox won't be, right? The other thing is, finding the real plummer, I hear they are quite hard to find. do you keep and work plummers? and would you recommend any good books on the training and techniques of working terriers? I would love to get a jagd terrier, but i think i have more chance of getting hens teeth in england than one of those dogs. Cheers for your reply, Guy Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Lot of terriers crossed with beagle types out there now. People seem to be using for bushing. I have no experiance of these though I'm sure someone reading this will advise. Quote Link to post
guyliath 15 Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Lot of terriers crossed with beagle types out there now. People seem to be using for bushing. I have no experiance of these though I'm sure someone reading this will advise. Cheers steviemann, is bushing just flushing from dense cover, as opposed to from warrens / earths? and after I have just asked such a thick question, could you advise good books on terriers and working them, i know all advice held in older books will have to be modified to fit the retard ban, that blair and his parasites scurried through, in direct opposition to the feelings of the people. the book might save me asking more amateur questions haha. best and thanks for the reply, Guy Quote Link to post
steviemann 5 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Lot of terriers crossed with beagle types out there now. People seem to be using for bushing. I have no experiance of these though I'm sure someone reading this will advise. Cheers steviemann, is bushing just flushing from dense cover, as opposed to from warrens / earths? and after I have just asked such a thick question, could you advise good books on terriers and working them, i know all advice held in older books will have to be modified to fit the retard ban, that blair and his parasites scurried through, in direct opposition to the feelings of the people. the book might save me asking more amateur questions haha. best and thanks for the reply, Guy I'm sure if you use the seach facillity on here you'll save money. Well known auther on this site, well worth reading his books though. Edited September 9, 2009 by steviemann Quote Link to post
guyliath 15 Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Lot of terriers crossed with beagle types out there now. People seem to be using for bushing. I have no experiance of these though I'm sure someone reading this will advise. Cheers steviemann, is bushing just flushing from dense cover, as opposed to from warrens / earths? and after I have just asked such a thick question, could you advise good books on terriers and working them, i know all advice held in older books will have to be modified to fit the retard ban, that blair and his parasites scurried through, in direct opposition to the feelings of the people. the book might save me asking more amateur questions haha. best and thanks for the reply, Guy I'm sure if you use the seach facillity on here you'll save money. Well known auther on this site, well worth reading his books though. Hello Steviemann, will do with the search, who is the author, if you could give me his name i will look for his books. what breed should be bred with the beagles you mentioned? i was thinking patterdales, plummer, jacks and parson's will these guys do what i am asking of them? Cheers, G Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 there was a thread on here a couple of weeks ago with a beaglexrussel nice looking dog( may have been for sale). the jagd terrier is from temperament a very hard dog,headstrong, i have heard people say that they are not the sharpest tools in the shed. i have worked with them and find it to be more or less true( dog to dog). some will tell you you may have problems with a bolting dog working rabbits( giving tongue for a rabbit when you are waiting for a fox etc). may well be a little annoying but if you want an all rounder( as do i,i bought a parson russel) i guess you will learn what the dog is up to below( i could tell with my bitches, rabbit very high toned,fox very agressive and deeper in tone) atb whatever your choice. Quote Link to post
lilpip1234 62 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 nice russel would suit your needs Quote Link to post
rosco p 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 nice russel would suit your needs i agree with you there,im not a lover of them but they do the job well Quote Link to post
pink head 28 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hello all, Probabley going to open a can of worms here, but...... I am a keen rough shooter/ wildfowler. most of my shooting consists of rabbits, pigeons and foxes with the shotgun. I am currently teaching myself snaring aswell. I would love to get a terrier to bolt rabbits and foxes to the gun, and some ratting if i can get it. Am I dreaming that there might be an ideal working breed out there for me? Cheers for your help, G u wont go far wrong with a well bred russel. i do ok rising them 4 my lurchers watch out theres alot of shit about tho Quote Link to post
BRYKAY 2 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 you could try a plummer.they,ll bolt rabbits,kill a few rats and if they don't bolt the fox you won't be waiting long for the dog to surface. I THINK YOU WILL FIND HE WAS HAVING A SLY DIG AT THE PLUMMER BREED TERRIER MATE Quote Link to post
THE-TERRIERMAN 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hello all, Probabley going to open a can of worms here, but...... I am a keen rough shooter/ wildfowler. most of my shooting consists of rabbits, pigeons and foxes with the shotgun. I am currently teaching myself snaring aswell. I would love to get a terrier to bolt rabbits and foxes to the gun, and some ratting if i can get it. Am I dreaming that there might be an ideal working breed out there for me? Cheers for your help, GGET YOURSELF WORKING BORDER CROSS PATTERDALE HAVE NOWT TO DO WID A PLUMMBER Quote Link to post
half n' half 8 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 you could try a plummer.they,ll bolt rabbits,kill a few rats and if they don't bolt the fox you won't be waiting long for the dog to surface. I THINK YOU WILL FIND HE WAS HAVING A SLY DIG AT THE PLUMMER BREED TERRIER MATE not really a dig mate,a dog that won't stay can be a godsend for someone just looking for a quick bolt to a gun and not looking to dig for a few hours. Quote Link to post
CorkyJohn 808 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Get urself a ferret for bolting rabbits, u'll have alot more success than using a terrier pal Quote Link to post
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