Guest Quickthorn Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I could be in the market for a light calibre Foxing rifle and the 17 Rem has kind of caught my eye. I`m not looking for a custom Joby but something straight out of the box vermin tool. Any experience with the 17 rem anyone?? Quote Link to post
runningdog 1 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I been using a sako quad in .17hmr shoots well Quote Link to post
arveyboy 0 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I been using a sako quad in .17hmr shoots well different thing mate. .17hmr is a rimfire. think hes talking about .17 rem fireball. could be wrong. ive got no experience of them mate. if ur looking for a low calibre centrefire why not .204 ruger? ive heard some good accounts of them. Mr L had a bad experience with one but doesnt mean you will. Quote Link to post
Guest Quickthorn Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 The 17HMR is a different calibre to the .17 Remington and i would`nt except an HMR even as a gift,lol. Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Alright mate.. a few lads i know local use the .17 rem, and seem to have never ending trouble, the wind plays havoc with the POI in most instances, and if its any way breezy has to be taken into account.... the other gripe with it is that it has to be kept free of fouling, poi will shift around the place, and its really showed with the lads success at the foxing lately....... but horses for courses, and if you want the .17 rem its your choice, but i wouldn't have one.... the .204 is an excellent calibre, some rifles have had issues, but it is neverless a very accurate and capable foxing round.... also what about the .223...? ATB with your decision.. Snap. Quote Link to post
pnse 0 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) here's a pic of the rounds to help with any confusion 17 mach 2,17 hmr,17 rem fireball,17 remington as to the 17 rem as a foxing tool,i haven't used one myself but know somebody who has,a flat shooting round out to about 250yards but with light bullets wind will have a hand in its accuracy at the longer ranges. atb paul Edited September 8, 2009 by pnse Quote Link to post
dicehorn 38 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I have a 17 Rem. Mine (a Tikka) shoots very well with both 25gr Amax and 20gr Vmax If you are looking at a 17 rem and plan to reload (the only way to get the best out of them) it would help if you are quite an experienced reloader. Bear this in mind, despite a m/v of around 4200 fps it is very much affected by quite minor crosswinds My advice actually would be to look at a 204 - mainly because it will take much heavier bullets, but this calibre once again can be a PITA to reload successfully. Best bet - one of the .22 c/fs Quote Link to post
martin 332 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 'QT' I use a .204cal and,it is a devastating fox round,but,again you do need to reload for them because of the price of the factory rounds.During practice sessions I have headshot rabbits out to nearly 200yds,and,unlike the .17 rem it isn't battered about by the wind,worth thinking about I would suggest,but,each to their own I say.............Martin. Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 22/250 fast flat accurate. hard hitting and easy to get ammo for. Quote Link to post
RicW 67 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I could be in the market for a light calibre Foxing rifle and the 17 Rem has kind of caught my eye. I`m not looking for a custom Joby but something straight out of the box vermin tool.Any experience with the 17 rem anyone?? See if you can trace a site about "Coyote Calling" - I've lost it! - these guys rave about 17 Rem cf but they call 'em in to around 50 yards. Not a long range round cos it is very wind sensitive. As said above, 204 Ruger is a better bet, but why f**k about? 223 leads the way, the rest follow Quote Link to post
Guest Quickthorn Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I remember a few years ago when the Rifle smith from SYSS had just acquired one of those 204 jobbies. Partly out of curiosity about this calibre i invited him out foxing and to be truthful i wasn't expecting anything but runner`s using such a small projectile that`s (bullet head) for the thicko`s To be honest i was surprised by its performance but not influenced enough to personally own one either. As for the 22.250 Jamie i think i`d go one further and get the ultimate foxing tool which is the 243 mate Not interested in the 223 either though a superb fox/Roe round.. But realistically all i need is a 150 yards quite fox round which i can reload myself. Do Tikka still make a 17 rem model? Quote Link to post
pnse 0 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) But realistically all i need is a 150 yards quite fox round which i can reload myself. how about a 17 ackley hornet,no recoil,3600-3700 fps with a 20grn vmax with only 11.5-12 grns of powder a solid 250 yard rabbit gun unlike the hmr and no fox will get up with a good hit inside 200 yards, atb paul Edited September 9, 2009 by pnse Quote Link to post
Guest Quickthorn Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Now you`ve tickled my taste buds pnse tell me more.. Quote Link to post
RicW 67 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I could be in the market for a light calibre Foxing rifle and the 17 Rem has kind of caught my eye. I`m not looking for a custom Joby but something straight out of the box vermin tool.Any experience with the 17 rem anyone?? Source:- Reload bench. Ackley 17 Hornet is Hornet 22 necked down to .17. Strictly varmint cartridge coyote <200 yds max. Quiet, low recoil. 25gr HP in front of 12gr IMR 4198 gives MV 3585fps ME 710ft.lbs.. usualy single shot but the SAKO action works well as it was designed for rimmed cartridges. Sounds like the dogs wotnots for you! Capable of 1/2" groups at 100 yds Ric Quote Link to post
pnse 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 yes its the 22 hornet necked down and blown out by fire forming in the chamber,i've shot rabbits at over 300 yards with mine in perfect conditions,as to the forming of the case one pass through the seating die then full length size the case and your are ready to go,fireform by shooting things.i have a couple of faster and more powerfull round in my gun cabinet but with out a doubt this is my favorite round heres a pic of the round between the hmr and 22 hornet case atb paul Quote Link to post
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