New Law On Lamping??

[undisputed 1,664]

anything that limits what you lot can shoot is a good thing ...most of you are way to trigger happy anyway....stick to clays!

 

Well, that post will be anything other than UNDISPUTED. If you are a dog man as your pretty picture sugests, don't you realise you are next on the list?

 

But of course I realise your post was a complete windup, or you are a complete twat

 

Yip I'm a complete twat at the wind up with a pretty dog We've been on the anti's hitlist for years

 

 

Then put in with all country sports folks instead of rubbishing your allies,

 

I will when you take your thumb out your arse and lighten up a bit you'll hurt your head banging

it like that

[cyclonebri1 8]

Then stand up and state your point. You are either with shooting/ country sports/ angling/ dogs or against us all ?Where do you have a problem with that???????????????????

[waidmann 105]

can we stop bickering and get a topic started as a petition?

how can we get in touch with the mods to get this off the ground?( i'm a computer tit )

sooner the better.

atb

[Catcher 1 639]

anything that limits what you lot can shoot is a good thing ...most of you are way to trigger happy anyway....stick to clays!

 

 

Now undisputed last your were on clays madam toosons had to shut down for repairs Catcher 1

[RicW 67]

can we stop bickering and get a topic started as a petition?

how can we get in touch with the mods to get this off the ground?( i'm a computer tit )

sooner the better.

atb

 

Strikes me as time to stand back and consider what we are, or may be, up against. First thing to realise is that we are just about to go off at half-cock. This is not a good idea for anybody, and as riflemen we really should know better!

 

In his starter post Bobthefox said he had heard that there is a real chance that some legislation limiting night shooting may be passed. There is a lot more to getting legislation passed than the police expressing a wish list. I seriously doubt whether there is sufficient public support for this idea to be taken up by the Government, so it would have to be presented as a Private Member's Bill, and take its chances on being read if it comes up first in the shuffle to hear private bills - after all government business is concluded. If, and only if, it gained sufficient support in the House would it be adopted by the Government, and only then would it have any chance of being passed. But for a start, no Tory is going to support such a bill, and the Libs would be opposed on libertarian grounds.

 

Right now though, there is a better reason not to over-react. We are in the run-up to a General Election. Even without taking account of the probable result, the Government is simply not interested in peripheral business. The votes they would lose in rural constituencies would far outweigh the gains in urban seats. There is simply no chance of such a Bill being read for at least 18 months. If the Tories get in they plan to abolish the Hunting with Dogs Act anyway. They are certainly not going to consider further restrictions on country sports!

 

None of this is to suggest that we should sit back and relax. Look at my sig! Members of the BASC and SACS should contact them and get some solid data on the subject, but let's get the data first. A further risk is that by acting too soon we might put clever ideas into nasty little minds. If wasps build a nest in your outhouse you get rid ASAP because they are an immediate threat. If you find a nest in the fields where you shoot you would be pretty dumb to start poking it with a stick. Just keep a leary eye on it and walk round the other way!

 

Sorry to go on, but I really do think we need to make very sure our brains are engaged before we release our collective mouths.

 

RicW

Edited September 14, 2009 by RicW

[undisputed 1,664]

can we stop bickering and get a topic started as a petition?

how can we get in touch with the mods to get this off the ground?( i'm a computer tit )

sooner the better.

atb

 

Strikes me as time to stand back and consider what we are, or may be, up against. First thing to realise is that we are just about to go off at half-cock. This is not a good idea for anybody, and as riflemen we really should know better!

 

In his starter post Bobthefox said he had heard that there is a real chance that some legislation limiting night shooting may be passed. There is a lot more to getting legislation passed than the police expressing a wish list. I seriously doubt whether there is sufficient public support for this idea to be taken up by the Government, so it would have to be presented as a Private Member's Bill, and take its chances on being read if it comes up first in the shuffle to hear private bills - after all government business is concluded. If, and only if, it gained sufficient support in the House would it be adopted by the Government, and only then would it have any chance of being passed. But for a start, no Tory is going to support such a bill, and the Libs would be opposed on libertarian grounds.

 

Right now though, there is a better reason not to over-react. We are in the run-up to a General Election. Even without taking account of the probable result, the Government is simply not interested in peripheral business. The votes they would lose in rural constituencies would far outweigh the gains in urban seats. There is simply no chance of such a Bill being read for at least 18 months. If the Tories get in they plan to abolish the Hunting with Dogs Act anyway. They are certainly not going to consider further restrictions on country sports!

 

None of this is to suggest that we should sit back and relax. Look at my sig! Members of the BASC and SACS should contact them and get some solid data on the subject, but let's get the data first. A further risk is that by acting too soon we might put clever ideas into nasty little minds. If wasps build a nest in your outhouse you get rid ASAP because they are an immediate threat. If you find a nest in the fields where you shoot you would be pretty dumb to start poking it with a stick. Just keep a leary eye on it and walk round the other way!

 

Sorry to go on, but I really do think we need to make very sure our brains are engaged before we release our collective mouths.

 

RicW

 

 

If the Tories get in your right you wont need to worry about a ban....you just wont be able to afford to shoot, drive, eat, live

[Catcher 1 639]

anything that limits what you lot can shoot is a good thing ...most of you are way to trigger happy anyway....stick to clays!

 

HA! Just you wait. I hear that there is a move to start up a charity to be known as the NSPCP. National Society for the Protection of Clay Pigeons. What harm do the poor things do? They don't eat crops or food plants, they don't break up pasture with their burrows, they don't kill chickens or new born lambs. They just sit in their boxes minding their own business and then you heartless lot chuck 'em up in the air and blow 'em to bits. Downright cruel it is.

RicW

 

Lol you could be right mate....listen I'm only joking do a wee bit of rough shooting myself

 

 

How right seen you shoot .its very rough Barn doors and missing come to mind Catcher

[undisputed 1,664]

anything that limits what you lot can shoot is a good thing ...most of you are way to trigger happy anyway....stick to clays!

 

HA! Just you wait. I hear that there is a move to start up a charity to be known as the NSPCP. National Society for the Protection of Clay Pigeons. What harm do the poor things do? They don't eat crops or food plants, they don't break up pasture with their burrows, they don't kill chickens or new born lambs. They just sit in their boxes minding their own business and then you heartless lot chuck 'em up in the air and blow 'em to bits. Downright cruel it is.

RicW

 

Lol you could be right mate....listen I'm only joking do a wee bit of rough shooting myself

 

 

How right seen you shoot .its very rough Barn doors and missing come to mind Catcher

 

 

It's the taking part that counts

[waidmann 105]

a good post by ric.

are basc or sasc interested in this proposed bill? how can we get them to find out and publish the facts we should know?

[cyclonebri1 8]

a good post by ric.

are basc or sasc interested in this proposed bill? how can we get them to find out and publish the facts we should know?

 

 

Here lies the problem , We cannot expect anyone, be it basc or sacs, to stand up in our defence if they do not realise the extent of concern, agreed?

Only by pressure on these bodies do we stand any chance of making our feeling felt.

 

Or am I wrong? I just don't think so, but apathy is the easy option. Please kick that one in the head

[markbivvy 6]

Just been informed by a man that knows , that the rules are aimed at the illegal lamping folk, dog and gun wise.

[Malt 379]

Just been informed by a man that knows , that the rules are aimed at the illegal lamping folk, dog and gun wise.

There are already laws in place to cover that. This just stinks of more red tape for the man in the street who already goes about his business legally.

[markbivvy 6]

This just stinks of more red tape for the man in the street who already goes about his business legally.

 

most law abiding folk wont mind a bit more red tape if it helps to catch the ones who are out walking with dog/gun and lamp and have no permission the old bill can then confiscate what they need to and lock up another poacher which has got to be a good thing for everyone in to country pursuits.

PS its all about night HUNTING not just shooting.

Edited September 15, 2009 by markbivvy

[Malt 379]

This just stinks of more red tape for the man in the street who already goes about his business legally.

 

most law abiding folk wont mind a bit more red tape if it helps to catch the ones who are out walking with dog/gun and lamp and have no permission the old bill can then confiscate what they need to and lock up another poacher which has got to be a good thing for everyone in to country pursuits.

PS its all about night HUNTING not just shooting.

As I've already stated, the police already have the authority to confiscate guns/lamps/dogs/cars/etc under the current laws. In real, actual terms, what difference will this proposed new legislation make to the average law abiding hunter?

[DaveK 0]

Just been informed by a man that knows , that the rules are aimed at the illegal lamping folk, dog and gun wise.

 

I heard that as well. I got the impression that they're getting a bit naffed of with people who think they have a right to enter anyones land and do what they like. Well what goes around comes around and likely there'll be a lot of dogs either put down or more likely thrown to stray out because they're no use any more and still need to be fed.