teckel bells

[Garypco 2]

il send you a falconry bell for now [bANNED TEXT]...the proper tracking bells are better tho...pm me ur address i got a couple of spares...

 

heres a good link for cow bells(for dogs)

 

http://www.flushandpoint.com/products.asp?ID=24

Edited September 6, 2009 by Garypco

[waidmann 105]

you may be right that i do not have a clue.

i have worked teckel in germany and have NEVER seen or heard of one wearing a bell!

one of the first things a teckel or terrier should learn is the "handler trail" he will find YOU and you will not need to get the family to search for him.

a teckel on blood trail will naturally be on the long lead( how on earth do you want to dertermine sighn( bllod, bone,hair) found and marked by a good dog if you are 100m away? get dirty,follow the dog!

why would a teckel follow a cold trail? what is a cold trail? the term cold is used for a blood trail which is allowed to rest for a few hours before working( allowing scent to settle,the quarry to become sick and the rest of his group to split,with boar and most type of deer this is the case.

the adrelalin and pherhormone released bythe animal and damage to the ground make the trail workable( up to 100 hours and more!)

 

telometrie is a good tool for a dog which is released in hot pursuit, which no responsible teckel owner would do as he does not have the speed to catch most quarry even sick( he was bred not to,hence short legs). although quite capable of pulling down roe they aint quick enough( exceptions prove rules)

 

telometrie is for birds and hounds bred to stick on there quarry relentlessly( hannoveraner,bayerischer,bracken etc) they will follow a stag over DAYS and cover an immense ammount of ground.

 

bells are for birds and pointer imo NOT TECKEL.

if it works for you then fine, if you feel the need to trial the dog or work with people from europe take it off because they will TAKE THE PISS.

i did not word my first reply very well for which i appoligise. i thought it must be a piss take. sorry

Edited September 6, 2009 by waidmann

[Waz 4,252]

I dont keep any teckels, but hunt with lots above ground and for digging. Majority of teckels ive seen in boar drives to guns will be wearing bells.

 

 

[waidmann 105]

where are you mate? france by any chance? i know the french use them on griffon and the like.

i can honestly say i have never heard of teckel with them. and i spent a long time in germany working teckel and terrier on driven( druckjagden) shoots for deer and boar.

quite honestly i have never needed a bell either.

as i said if it works for you fine.

[Guest reload]

if the teckel is working a scent he should be loud. if he cant find a scent shoot him!

 

another hunting life classic from someone who clearly dosnet have a clue. Most hounds will draw cover silently, most will cast silenty and when they loose a trail it would be fairly annoying of them to carry on speaking. Also the majority of hound types will track blood and cold trails silently.

 

Spot on winkhound

 

 

 

Collars are 1" (25mm) width and 60 cm long, I cut them down to suit and put more holes in with a soldering iron.

They are hound collars very strong stuff.

 

mymate use them on his GWP they are bloody brilliant when out rough shooting

Edited September 6, 2009 by reload

[Gripper 1]

if the teckel is working a scent he should be loud. if he cant find a scent shoot him!

so if dog loose game in larg wood or cover and cant get back on it you would loos it or shoot it very nice anser. bet the antis would love you.it mite be what you do but dont think you need to broadcast it on here

theres always a 1 knobhead isnt there mate

[waidmann 105]

if stating an opinion makes someone a knob head so be it( admited the first reply was a little blase).

the teckel can be a wide working dog.

if the teckel "loses" game and does not return or find anew its called "running off" and you may need a loud bell.

my teckel would hunt for hours only seeking me occaisionally( called by horn at the end of the day). you need an area big enough for them to work( hounding of hare and deer is only allowed over 1000 hectar in germany).we would use around five teckel,3 jagd terrier,4 jrt and a labxgspxbgs for following up wounded quarry at the end of the day.all would work individually only packing for "stand game" ( mostly wounded pig who refuse to move on, they would need dispatching once "bound" or "covered" by the dogs).

 

if my point is not accepted thats ok. if anyone offended i appologise.

atb with the dog,most importantly he works for you.

cheers

[Hunting Dachshund 0]

you may be right that i do not have a clue.

i have worked teckel in germany and have NEVER seen or heard of one wearing a bell!

 

Waidmann, bells are used in Germany nowadays in "Treibjagd" on wild boars. Just to warn the surrounding hunters a dog is coming to prevent hunting accidents, but that's the only hunting application I know of.

[waidmann 105]

cheers hunting dachshund. i have e-mailed the teckel club i belong to and they don't use them either,possibly a local thing?

most of the people i know wont even let a dog run collerd( an elastic warn strip is used with a velcro fastener,mobile number written on it).the risk of a dackel going to earth alone would forbid it.if a bell should be used i would reccomend an elastic band he can lose if snagged up.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

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Edited September 7, 2009 by gonetoearth

[gonetoearth 5,144]

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Edited September 7, 2009 by gonetoearth

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Start out with obedience - obedience - obedience.... before you take your dog out hunting. Like Waidmann already said, if he's on some scent line, he should be loud. If he's not, he should go back to you upon command. If he's mute on scent, he's worthless for hunting. No need for bells!!

do you hunt with hawks as well

[Hunting Dachshund 0]

cheers hunting dachshund. i have e-mailed the teckel club i belong to and they don't use them either,possibly a local thing?

most of the people i know wont even let a dog run collerd( an elastic warn strip is used with a velcro fastener,mobile number written on it).the risk of a dackel going to earth alone would forbid it.if a bell should be used i would reccomend an elastic band he can lose if snagged up.

Waidmann, I feel there is no need for bells also, but some of the German hunters I know (in mid-Germany - area of Frankfurt/Darmstadt) believe it is safer for their dogs with one on when there are unknown hunters partaking in the Treibjagd.

 

I have a nylon collar with plastic clip for my standard Teckels (with my cell phone number) that will come loose if they get stuck underground. There have been several times that one of my dogs came back without collar.

 

No Gonetoearth, I don't hunt with hawks. Why should I, because falconry is absolutely NOT one of the main applications of hunting Teckels. And please explain why with hawks you need to use a bell for your dog(s)?

[waidmann 105]

i lived between paderborn( around ten years) and steinfurt( four years) and davensberg ( near dortmund) also for four years before moving back to the uk in jan 2008.

i have worked the dogs in westerwald( staatsforst) and spent some time in gamberg( nearer tou you) in privately owned forestry.

along with brandenburg ( private 2 different shoots) and a fair few in nrw ( paderborner/lippischer staatsforst).

a bit of a way from you.

if it eases the mind then ok. as in your post i think the training should come first.

as for safety " dat wat du nicht kennst, dem schiess du nicht tod". i had a tan jrt terrier that looked un canny red in the wrong light, she wore a kevlar vest( also a hard little bitch) and the problem was solved, fast fingers and slow minds are a curse

how many teckel do you work hunting dachshound?

atb

[Hunting Dachshund 0]

i lived between paderborn( around ten years) and steinfurt( four years) and davensberg ( near dortmund) also for four years before moving back to the uk in jan 2008.

i have worked the dogs in westerwald( staatsforst) and spent some time in gamberg( nearer tou you) in privately owned forestry.

along with brandenburg ( private 2 different shoots) and a fair few in nrw ( paderborner/lippischer staatsforst).

a bit of a way from you.

Waidmann, I don't live in Germany, but have lived in The Netherlands near the border of Germany until I moved to the USA. I now am in North Carolina. Were you in the army?

 

if it eases the mind then ok. as in your post i think the training should come first.

as for safety " dat wat du nicht kennst, dem schiess du nicht tod". i had a tan jrt terrier that looked un canny red in the wrong light, she wore a kevlar vest( also a hard little bitch) and the problem was solved, fast fingers and slow minds are a curse

how many teckel do you work hunting dachshound?

atb

I absolutely agree, but with the abundance of wild boars at this moment, hunters who have not been hunting much are also recruited. Even older hunters. I know of a few hunting accidents with dogs.

 

I have 11 Teckel of which 4 are 12-15 yrs old and have been retired from hunting.

Here in the US, we have another problem..... coyotes! The bells are known to attract coyotes from far distances. A few beagles with bells have been killed.