enjoy hunting with dogs??

[lurcher lass 9]

well everyone now is the chance to try and change this useless hunting act of 2004, if half of the members on this site emailed a copy of this letter to the local MP's then i'm certain something would happen,, you may think otherwise but it will only take a few minutes and at worst nothing will change, at best . . . well sky's the limit!

 

Annemarie x x x

p.s

a quote by a friend of mine:

The apathy displayed by a majority of the hunting community is one of the biggest problems, I wrote letters to my local MP when the act was being discussed, I along with hundreds of thousands marched but in reality I wonder what the real population of hunting folk did anything apart from piss and moan and sit on there arse.

 

 

 

Dear (insert MP's name here)

 

Please could I bring to your attention the general public's disapproval with the Hunting Act 2004, this law is not fair and is unenforceable.

 

Not all hunters wear red jackets and ride to hounds. The mounted packs are still hunting and the Hunting Act 2004 though affected are still able to continue their work through different means. The Hunting Act is however, affecting people at the other end of the hunting spectrum, i.e. the working classes, the people who either eat what they hunt or who hunt for pest control purely. People who may own a dog or two that they keep at home, people who own lurchers, terriers and other types of dog but not a large pack.

 

To state hunting is not morally acceptable in a civilised society is to totally misunderstand wildlife. Wild animals do not live in civilised society and the people who would put them there do them no favour whatsoever. It demonstrates a profound ignorance of the true role of hunting in wildlife management and animal welfare.

 

Clearly, animals are not moral beings, as they have no true sense of what's right and wrong in the way that humans do. Therefore when a dog hunts and does so naturally, this cannot be an immoral act. The human motive, as far as the quarry animal is concerned, is totally irrelevent; it simply experieces what is being done to it.

 

So, in the moral debate, the focus shifts from the act, to the attitude of the person in control of the dog. Hunting with dogs can be regarded as natural for both hound/lurcher/terrier and quarry, but most crucially, does not involve any risk of wounding. To deprive wildlife of the natural and most humane method of control must therefore itself be morally indefensive.

 

Also I feel that the use of the Parliament Act to force through such a law is un-democratic and a breach of the legislation.

 

I know it is a few years since the Hunting Act was brought in but this law has drastically damaged the present government in rural circles and I feel that it will cost more votes further down the line and will remain a class based divide as it continues to punish the hunters at the poorer end of the social spectrum.

 

The hunting issue consumed large amounts of parliamentry time including ignoring the Burns report resulting in a law that is unprincipled, unenforceable, unnatural and unscientific. In fact, the Hunting Act causes greater animal suffering when it should have set out to improve the welfare of wild mammals. In part this was because the hunting debate attracted some people who saw it as a useful vehicle for their prejudices. There was, and still is, considerable ingnorance about the use of dogs in wildlife management and confusion as to what management itself means.

 

I know one New Labour supporter was quoted after the act was passed as saying " that's one in the eye for the toffs in red coats!", this letter is to point out that though the fox hunts are suffering, other aspects have been badly affected too, and is it really right that the government should be trying to legislate against certain social classes anyway? Especially from a government that tries to bring communities together.

 

We should be teaching people to be tolerant of others traditions and this includes British rural traditions.

 

A re-assesment of hunting with hounds and its place in wildlife management should be made. It is contended that the information above allows the activity to be seen in a different light, even by those people who would never claim to be supporters of hunting.

 

Yours Considering my vote

(Insert your name)

 

 

And here is the link to the website that lets you e-mail your MP! this website will also allow you to find out who your MP is if you dont know and will also ask you details about you to ensure that you are a constituent and to allow the MP to reply!

 

 

http://www.writetothem.com/

 

feel free to add more points that you feel strong about, however i would advise to write carefully and be aware not to come accross aggressive, we can only move forward from such a pointless ban!!

 

all the very best of luck and thanks for taking the time to read this Annemarie xx

Edited September 4, 2009 by Stabs

[Guest the techno viking]

ill give it a go LL cheers for that but to be honest my local mp is a big fat anti hunting :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4:!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lurcher lass 9]

cheers mate we can only try

[craigyboy 1,274]

ive tried my local mp but they will not accept any messages

[collie/grey 238]

Well i have just sent that to James Gray, my mp and if i remember rightly he is a pro hunter!

[awen 29]

done!!! took 2mins, quick and easy. it can only do good, come on folks bombard the b*****ds

[rabbit tourmentor 29]

good idea

[arcticgun 4,548]

Well written LL, and i hope that everyone does send it to there local MP, there is a bit of light at the end of the tunnel should we get a Conservative goverment next year, but IMHO they will bring back hunting with dogs on fox only, but it will be traditional fox hunting, they (the huntsmen) are already working with the conservatives as was published last week in the national press and making good progress. They have really got there act together and will more than likely suceed in their aims to ride out again in pursuit of their traditional quarry legaly.

 

However and as per usual the working man will get 'shafted' for the usual reasons,

 

a) cos where working class, and thats what 'they' do to us

 

cos we are not organised enough to represent ourselves , to much infighting.

 

c) We aren't smoozing the conservatives MP's

 

d)and worst of all some of us continually give the opposition the exact ammo they need to keep us down.

 

I'll be pleased to see the back of this present shower of a goverment, if one good thing is ever going to be said about this NU Labour induced credit crunch it will be that it was the thing that got them chucked out of power and saved hunting in the uk, beacause they never ever intended in stopping at just banning hunting with dogs, IMHO shooting would have been well on the agenda for banning if they had another 10 year in power.

 

politics? mad really they want our vote, beg us for it, get it off us, then stop us doing what we love. Where expected to take onboard other cultures traditions whilst ours are taken away from us, it pure sucks.

 

Rant over best of luck with it, at least your trying!

 

atvb Richard (bored shitless at work)

Edited September 4, 2009 by arcticgun

[bedrock 16]

Spot on Las Thank you for that. atb bedrock

[langouroux 14]

this is a really good letter and i will defo send it off, soon as i find out who my local MP is!

 

its a shame it doesn't mention anything about deer tracking dogs, another sticking point in the act!

 

if there is a wounded deer and you send in the dog, and the dog then brings the animal down so it can be humanly dispatched you are technically hunting with dogs! it can all get a bit messy!

[langouroux 14]

politics? mad really they want our vote, beg us for it, get it off us, then stop us doing what we love. Where expected to take onboard other cultures traditions whilst ours are taken away from u

 

never a true'r statement!

[bedlingtonman 44]

done ta chick

[GarryN 5]

Done we need to stick together even more and support what we do.

[Guest lurchers&terriers]

"Dear (insert MP's name here)

 

Please could I bring to your attention the general public's disapproval with the Hunting Act 2004, this law is not fair and is unenforceable."

 

iv done it but i feel what quoted above isn't true. the vast majority of the public ether don't care or don't approve of hunting one little bit. city and town folk make up the vast majority of the british population and most disapprove of hunting. it maybe where you live or the people who you are involved with disagree with the ban but from living all over the uk my view is a huge majority of the public like iv said ether don't care or disagree with hunting. its a sad reflection of how things have changed i know and its also prof the anti hunt lot have worked harder and been more successful in getting there view across than us. time to face facts people we are a big minority. we need to work harder and the representatives of hunting should work harder to in getting the truth across to the public. anyway lass iv sent mine, anything is worth a try.

[DEADHORSEANDDONKEYDEALER 275]

well everyone now is the chance to try and change this useless hunting act of 2004, if half of the members on this site emailed a copy of this letter to the local MP's then i'm certain something would happen,, you may think otherwise but it will only take a few minutes and at worst nothing will change, at best . . . well sky's the limit!

 

Annemarie x x x

p.s

a quote by a friend of mine:

The apathy displayed by a majority of the hunting community is one of the biggest problems, I wrote letters to my local MP when the act was being discussed, I along with hundreds of thousands marched but in reality I wonder what the real population of hunting folk did anything apart from piss and moan and sit on there arse.

 

 

 

Dear (insert MP's name here)

 

Please could I bring to your attention the general public's disapproval with the Hunting Act 2004, this law is not fair and is unenforceable.

 

Not all hunters wear red jackets and ride to hounds. The mounted packs are still hunting and the Hunting Act 2004 though affected are still able to continue their work through different means. The Hunting Act is however, affecting people at the other end of the hunting spectrum, i.e. the working classes, the people who either eat what they hunt or who hunt for pest control purely. People who may own a dog or two that they keep at home, people who own lurchers, terriers and other types of dog but not a large pack.

 

To state hunting is not morally acceptable in a civilised society is to totally misunderstand wildlife. Wild animals do not live in civilised society and the people who would put them there do them no favour whatsoever. It demonstrates a profound ignorance of the true role of hunting in wildlife management and animal welfare.

 

Clearly, animals are not moral beings, as they have no true sense of what's right and wrong in the way that humans do. Therefore when a dog hunts and does so naturally, this cannot be an immoral act. The human motive, as far as the quarry animal is concerned, is totally irrelevent; it simply experieces what is being done to it.

 

So, in the moral debate, the focus shifts from the act, to the attitude of the person in control of the dog. Hunting with dogs can be regarded as natural for both hound/lurcher/terrier and quarry, but most crucially, does not involve any risk of wounding. To deprive wildlife of the natural and most humane method of control must therefore itself be morally indefensive.

 

Also I feel that the use of the Parliament Act to force through such a law is un-democratic and a breach of the legislation.

 

I know it is a few years since the Hunting Act was brought in but this law has drastically damaged the present government in rural circles and I feel that it will cost more votes further down the line and will remain a class based divide as it continues to punish the hunters at the poorer end of the social spectrum.

 

The hunting issue consumed large amounts of parliamentry time including ignoring the Burns report resulting in a law that is unprincipled, unenforceable, unnatural and unscientific. In fact, the Hunting Act causes greater animal suffering when it should have set out to improve the welfare of wild mammals. In part this was because the hunting debate attracted some people who saw it as a useful vehicle for their prejudices. There was, and still is, considerable ingnorance about the use of dogs in wildlife management and confusion as to what management itself means.

 

I know one New Labour supporter was quoted after the act was passed as saying " that's one in the eye for the toffs in red coats!", this letter is to point out that though the fox hunts are suffering, other aspects have been badly affected too, and is it really right that the government should be trying to legislate against certain social classes anyway? Especially from a government that tries to bring communities together.

 

We should be teaching people to be tolerant of others traditions and this includes British rural traditions.

 

A re-assesment of hunting with hounds and its place in wildlife management should be made. It is contended that the information above allows the activity to be seen in a different light, even by those people who would never claim to be supporters of hunting.

 

Yours Considering my vote

(Insert your name)

 

 

And here is the link to the website that lets you e-mail your MP! this website will also allow you to find out who your MP is if you dont know and will also ask you details about you to ensure that you are a constituent and to allow the MP to reply!

 

 

http://www.writetothem.com/

 

feel free to add more points that you feel strong about, however i would advise to write carefully and be aware not to come accross aggressive, we can only move forward from such a pointless ban!!

 

all the very best of luck and thanks for taking the time to read this Annemarie xx

Nice one just sent it please could every one do same took me about 5 mins