quicksilver 0 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 can anyone recommend some good training dvds for HPR's if possible GWP specific. Also good training book recomendations would be appreciated regards keith Quote Link to post
Dave C 63 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I have never come across any Keith, but if you find any please let us know. Dave. Quote Link to post
josh79 0 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 try youtube and search gundog training seems to be a lot of hits on the subject Quote Link to post
Blaze 49 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Bird Dog Basic's.....By Derry Argue! Quote Link to post
butcherboy 68 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 2 Tom Brechney DVDs - Basic & Advanced. The only HPR one's you'll need. Quote Link to post
mustwork 0 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 2 Tom Brechney DVDs - Basic & Advanced. The only HPR one's you'll need. We would definitely agree butcherboy, best we have seen by far! Steve Kimberley also has training DVDs on his website. He has over 20 years experience training gundogs, the training programme covers spaniels, retrievers and HPRs. We haven't seen them, but if his training days are anything to go by they should be good! Hope this helps Lisa. Quote Link to post
mustwork 0 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 can anyone recommend some good training dvds for HPR's if possible GWP specific. Also good training book recomendations would be appreciated regards keith The Versatile Gundog by Guy Wallace, Training Pointing Dogs by Paul Long, Hunter Pointer Retriever The continental Gundog by a variety of authors. Lisa Quote Link to post
quicksilver 0 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Thanks for the replies, Keith Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I had been training dogs since I was 12 years old. I thought I had had a fair measure of sucssess. Then I tried training my first GWP and all that I had learnt in that 30 odd years went out the window. Training HPR is a totally different kettle of fish to other gundogs. If you are used to training Labs Spaniels etc, allowing, ney encouraging a dog to work 200 yards away from you is a bit of a shock to the system. Also the dogs disposition of, yep Ill do it, but in my time. Can have you pulling your hair out by the handfull. Most HPR's even though they seem pretty thick skinned, are really very sensitive shout at one and it can put your training back a month. One thing to remember is that HPR were bred to range. Try to curtail that and you are fighting the dogs natural instinct and it will be a fair bet that neither of you will win in the end. TC Quote Link to post
kiwi 4 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 i'd have to disagree with the range comment as my dogs are quite happy to keep within spaniel casting distance all day, and if need be a meter away for deer, a true hpr needs something that seems to be overlooked in many breeding programmes...... a gearbox. far too many ill bred gwps have been bred to run and don't have the inbuilt gearbox to change to the conditions. they were never meant to keep up with pointers and setters. Quote Link to post
jas 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 2 Tom Brechney DVDs - Basic & Advanced. The only HPR one's you'll need. We would definitely agree butcherboy, best we have seen by far! Steve Kimberley also has training DVDs on his website. He has over 20 years experience training gundogs, the training programme covers spaniels, retrievers and HPRs. We haven't seen them, but if his training days are anything to go by they should be good! Hope this helps Lisa. Lisa, have you been to Steve Kimberley? I was thinking of doing the same but have heard mixed reports, can you give me nay info please. Quote Link to post
butcherboy 68 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 2 Tom Brechney DVDs - Basic & Advanced. The only HPR one's you'll need. We would definitely agree butcherboy, best we have seen by far! Steve Kimberley also has training DVDs on his website. He has over 20 years experience training gundogs, the training programme covers spaniels, retrievers and HPRs. We haven't seen them, but if his training days are anything to go by they should be good! Hope this helps Lisa. Lisa, have you been to Steve Kimberley? I was thinking of doing the same but have heard mixed reports, can you give me nay info please. Steve's a nice bloke & knows HPR's better than he knows any other the other breeds in my view. Quote Link to post
marrajack 1 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 can anyone recommend some good training dvds for HPR's if possible GWP specific. Also good training book recomendations would be appreciated regards keith [try kragborg website, they are the biz, danish, but also in english, class tips, wish I had it when I got mine -saved some probs] Quote Link to post
mustwork 0 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 2 Tom Brechney DVDs - Basic & Advanced. The only HPR one's you'll need. We would definitely agree butcherboy, best we have seen by far! Steve Kimberley also has training DVDs on his website. He has over 20 years experience training gundogs, the training programme covers spaniels, retrievers and HPRs. We haven't seen them, but if his training days are anything to go by they should be good! Hope this helps Lisa. Lisa, have you been to Steve Kimberley? I was thinking of doing the same but have heard mixed reports, can you give me nay info please. I have been to one of his training days organised by BASC here in Wales. Yes i would recommend him! Quote Link to post
mustwork 0 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 i'd have to disagree with the range comment as my dogs are quite happy to keep within spaniel casting distance all day, and if need be a meter away for deer, a true hpr needs something that seems to be overlooked in many breeding programmes...... a gearbox.far too many ill bred gwps have been bred to run and don't have the inbuilt gearbox to change to the conditions. they were never meant to keep up with pointers and setters. I agree Kiwi, this is something we are trying to educate hunters about over here. The GWPs/DD do have a reputation for being too out going for the type of hunting we have over here, but we use them on the shoot to do every thing from ranging out one or two fields when dogging in to hunting close in a pheasant drive on a shoot day, and also despatching foxes on vermin control! The thing to remember with a GWP/DD is they will do whatever you train them to do. If you let them just run wild they will!! Lisa Quote Link to post
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