waidmann 105 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 old fashioned methods are no longer acceptable.we want our dogs to work with and not for us? dominant behaviour needs to be nipped in the bud at an early age( not always possible i know). but general discipline and consequence need to be installed and upheld ( the down command is a good test and tool i find) no doubt they can be annoying,so can kids( now thats a case for the stick ) i don't know whether uwe heiss has any english books out,if so try to get a copy.he is shit hot as far as dog training goes. good luck with the dogs bud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 1rst things first whats his breeding cos different breeds need a different approach.My bitch used to be a little cow for setting about other dogs when i got her if they came to closer and chasing people out of the park etc.I have now got this well and truely sorted and it was a matter of working out what bothered her the most and using this to get my own way with her.In her case i kicked her out the pack if she does something i dont like i use voice of doom and chase her like feck and when she comes near i tell her to bugger off this works a charm with her but shes clingy and sticks to me like a flippin third leg.If hes super agressive and really going for broke then id pick him up and and get in his face and then a short sharp slap every time maybe invest in a muzzle while running for a while so he realises if he attacks the other dog he cant do f all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaun dee 7 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 hi mate hees 5/8 grey 2/8 bull 1/8 collie top allrounder when he wants to be. he's only aggresive when were setting off lamping and when we stop for a little break during an on the way home, he dosent seem to bother when the lamps on and i usually tend to slip him once or twice with a dog and he dosent seem to be botherd while hees chasing or if we stay put when they retrive. until were home then.... thanks for all the advice lads i'll give the (submission)? one a go. and about the submision what should i do just lay him on his back and stand another dog over him? thanks again. shaun . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WHITEYrs4 29 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 hi mate hees 5/8 grey 2/8 bull 1/8 collie top allrounder when he wants to be. he's only aggresive when were setting off lamping and when we stop for a little break during an on the way home, he dosent seem to bother when the lamps on and i usually tend to slip him once or twice with a dog and he dosent seem to be botherd while hees chasing or if we stay put when they retrive. until were home then.... thanks for all the advice lads i'll give the (submission)? one a go. and about the submision what should i do just lay him on his back and stand another dog over him? thanks again. shaun . Hers a link on youtube for you boyo it will be easier for you to watch this than me to type it all out! All you need to do when the dog is submitted is to get the dog that he attacked and hold it over his head while he is in the submitted position. Im glad you have taken on this approach first and I hope some of the other lads who said to take a stick to him would try this before they do it! LINK>> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve McHardy 2 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 ye i say the stick. somthin it will remember! works when stock breaking should sort it out come on fellas you know this site is watched ffs dont tell him to give it the stick cause it looks bad!!!!! dont get me wrong they need to know whats wrong and right but ive learnt now that losing your rag and twating them aint the way forward cause they only remember the slap and not what they did wrong. my advice would be get the dog obeying everything you say from sit,stay,off the sofa whatever in general around the garden, house etc and get him to a point where he wont do anything around you unless you say to do it THEN take him out around other dogs and a firm pull on the collar and and a sharp word from you and he will soon learn. bull crosses are naturally going to show aggression thats what they do its channeling it to when and where it can use it thats the key. you might think im takin the piss but watch ceaser milan (the dog whisperer) and his methods with aggressive dogs and not once does he smack a dog but gets them over it by breaking them to submission so they understand whos boss!!!!! anyway just my thoughts on the subject atb!!!!!!!! well said use your brain not your braun u end up with a far keener team dogs work harder for a leader eather than that c***t with a big stick the little bugger is trying to be dominant show him your the boss but dont belt him the submission thing works although you have to do it before they get the wind up proper or its alot harder to do and trying to pin down a powerhouse of a lurcher aint easy. be firm but not ott. my terriers were little gits for fighting but show them shed loads of graft and they will channel the energy into that and the dog whisperer guy is ace dont loose your rag as it sends the wrong signal to the dog keep calm and asert your dominance he should calm down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
77 si 21 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I no its not ideal mate but I would try taking him to dog training and get some professional advice A friend of mine has just done it with his pointer/dear hound, he was having loads of behavior problems! It cost him £65 for ten lessons and he has ended up with a realy good dog at the end of it. Hope this advice helps. ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 You need to domainate him more basically bull xs are stubborn and need to know whos who and hat you as pack leader decides who gets to fight etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UNFIT 0 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Take a stick to him its a real bad habit and will lose you lamping partners quicker than a pro's knickers come down. Bad bad advice to take a stick to him{imo} What I saw a good friend of mine do to his dog a long time ago with the same problem when the 1 dog rocko was attacking his lamp buttys dog called duke he caught hold of rocko laid him straight on the ground flat so he was in a submission type of position and made duke stand over him for about 7 minutes and the dogs for as long as I can remember never attacked him again! We went out lamping in the same year and he did the same thing to another dog so he did the same process again to the 2 dogs and it was sucessful again! I never forgot this and if I ever got into that predicament I would do the same! Taking a stick to a dog is not the answer! If you try this and you are still having trouble mate then I would seek professional advice as you dont want to end up with a dead dog! When this could be easily prevented. All the best with him anyway! good advice ,if it fails ,you will have to introduce him to my mates dog BLUE ,he has not lost a fight yet . he will do he just has ,and it was by a 10 month old pup ,and no it was not a bull x Edited September 4, 2009 by UNFIT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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