waterloo cup

[greatwhitehunter 47]

if there ever was another march in london, how would we find out about it? i was gutted i wasnt at the last one

[events co-ordinator 353]

I agree with you terrier work got a far better deal than south of the border, and many lurcher clubs were remiss in not getting involved, The problem is in Scotland it must be your intention to shoot your quarry fox etc; and still the majority of terrier men here don't posses and have no interest in firearms whilst still carrying out pest control ( personally wish there was no need for firearms while working with terriers) I would suggest there's less members of the NWTF with firearms than there are with terriers? Over 400.000 put in an effort at the last countryside march (liberty and Liveliehood) where did that get us??

 

Tom

 

Ps: I am a member of the SGA and I also have a shotgun/firearms certificate and always take one of my guns while hunting with dogs, my terrier club is also a member of the NWTF and the majority of the lads don't have access to guns and don't want too, I accompany them to keep them legal and within current legislation

 

In my opinion the tories if they get in? will implement legislation to benefit the MFHA and registered packs? there is no way on gods earth that they will put in place legislation with re: to lurcher and terrier work the way it was before the ban as we were always seen as the poor relation of hunting with dogs and were cynically used in the numbers game

 

Tom

During the Watson bill in Scotland some lurcher clubs did not even put in a submission to the rural affairs comittee a lot of their attitude was they can ban it if they want, it wont

stop us. The terrier clubs took a different view and through the NWTF put up such a reasoned and forceful argument that terrier work in Scotland came off better than anything else under the act. They also worked hand in hand with the SGA & SHPA and the NFU the more effort you put in the better the result you get.

I refer you to the NWTF code of conduct.

[Foxgun Tom 75]

Why are you referring me to the NWTF code of Conduct not every terrierman who keeps and works terriers is a member? as you must be well aware some of the hunting with dogs legislation is different in Scotland as it is from England and Wales, Northern Ireland legislation is different again?

 

Tom

Ps: Unfortunately the majority of terriermen I know, have no affiliation with the NWDA or any other club or association? (they see it as more beurocracy) and are'nt interested in the code of conduct even though they we both probably agree they should be!! what can and do you say to them? They're not members of the NWDA and a code of conduct like this is volountary and definately good practice, but unenforcable!! wether we like it or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited September 2, 2009 by Foxgun Tom

[Leeview 791]

Whats The NWTF got to do with the Waterloo Cup ? Start another topic if you want to carry on discussing it

Y.I.S Leeview

[gonetoearth 5,144]

i was Lucky enough to attend the Waterloo in the early seventies right thru to the last.

From the British field sports society to the CA. We were asked to give money for a fighting

fund as the anti threat got greater.I remember asking what it was for to pay the lobbyists if needed

etc, the money raised were did it go what happened to the BFSS funds , we sat back and let the lacs

take the moral high ground , they infiltrated the rspca they then changed there stance on Field sports

they got the TV on there side , they got the tabloids on there side , while the coursing club drank wine and ate volivonts, after the demise of the BFSS along came the CA, the war had been lost we marched

but still then banned coursing , to little to late , the sad thing is the majority of Joe public could not give a flying foooook but every year at altcar the antis got media coverage , and rammed it down the publics throats , now the CA SHOULD BE RUNNING A MEDIA CAMPAIGN, NOW TWELVE MONTHS BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION AND A MARCH ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON TO BRING LONDON TO A STANDSTILL , dream on eh

[gonetoearth 5,144]

double post Edited September 2, 2009 by gonetoearth

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

gone to earth

spot on

 

i can remember as a kid, old guys saying enjoy this son, it could be the last.this was early 's

why wasnt something done then to safeguard it

[monkjack 0]

i was at the last few waterloo cups what a piss up it was great but the best course of the whole lot had to go to a whippet greyhound lurcher type that escaped from a car window what a course it rose every 1 to thier feet it was a small black and white bitch can anybady remember this from around 8 yrs ago

remember this course well the best course i saw in yrs of waterloo the funniest thing about it was the cries of "SLIP THE WHIPPET" from the bank for the rest of the day when there a poor run from the dogs. we've been telling our mates about this course ever since

[Bosun11 537]

i was Lucky enough to attend the Waterloo in the early seventies right thru to the last.

From the British field sports society to the CA. We were asked to give money for a fighting

fund as the anti threat got greater.I remember asking what it was for to pay the lobbyists if needed

etc, the money raised were did it go what happened to the BFSS funds , we sat back and let the lacs

take the moral high ground , they infiltrated the rspca they then changed there stance on Field sports

they got the TV on there side , they got the tabloids on there side , while the coursing club drank wine and ate volivonts, after the demise of the BFSS along came the CA, the war had been lost we marched

but still then banned coursing , to little to late , the sad thing is the majority of Joe public could not give a flying foooook but every year at altcar the antis got media coverage , and rammed it down the publics throats , now the CA SHOULD BE RUNNING A MEDIA CAMPAIGN, NOW TWELVE MONTHS BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION AND A MARCH ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON TO BRING LONDON TO A STANDSTILL , dream on eh

 

Would totaly agree GTE apart from one thing, never again will I march for the CA. The've had my time and my money.

It always should have been a media campaign but the CA were too dumb to realise this is the way to win over Jo public, as far as I can see it'd be too little too late now, that was a one window opportunity and we lost, big time!!

I hope the top brass 'boys' in the CA used that money wisley, climbing ladders in the gentlemens clubs in Londons Mayfair!!

[Catcher 1 639]

does anyone know if (when) the torys get back into power will hare coursing become legal again or will it be forgotten now the fox hunters have found away round the law and dont need us to march on london ?

 

 

It looks as thought the Tories will NOT repeal the Hunting Act 2004 !! They will only AMEND it !! The MFHA and the CA are advising them on it, and it looks like it will lead to Fox Hound Packs being licsensed........ No mention of coursing !! I doubt if individuals will ever be allowed to course hares again ! Of course, I hope I'm wrong !!!!

 

Cheers.

 

 

Agree with the above.We will never get hare coursing back.They will Amend the Hunting Act 2004 to suit them self.Fox hunting for the so called upper class.And the rest of us can bite it.And we will take it just like we have taken all there shit.atb Catcher 1

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Just suppose 2,3,4.....10 000 people marched down to altcar, beaters, slippers, greyhounds, everybody very much involved, and then they had a bloody good days coursing............... What the f**k could the government do then? That sort of 'all for one and one for all' spirit would give them the middle finger and might just have the desired effect. They would try to make an example of the organisers and the main people, but if everyone had a greyhound or longdog or were actively driving the fields, they couldnt do that.

[Catcher 1 639]

Just suppose 2,3,4.....10 000 people marched down to altcar, beaters, slippers, greyhounds, everybody very much involved, and then they had a bloody good days coursing............... What the f**k could the government do then? That sort of 'all for one and one for all' spirit would give them the middle finger and might just have the desired effect. They would try to make an example of the organisers and the main people, but if everyone had a greyhound or longdog or were actively driving the fields, they couldnt do that.

 

 

Hi Born Hunter.It may well work on the day.But as we all know they would pick us off one at a time after it on dawn raid,s and call it law.We have to win in the court,s first.atb Catcher 1

[fin and fur 2]

Just suppose 2,3,4.....10 000 people marched down to altcar, beaters, slippers, greyhounds, everybody very much involved, and then they had a bloody good days coursing............... What the f**k could the government do then? That sort of 'all for one and one for all' spirit would give them the middle finger and might just have the desired effect. They would try to make an example of the organisers and the main people, but if everyone had a greyhound or longdog or were actively driving the fields, they couldnt do that.

 

 

Hi Born Hunter.It may well work on the day.But as we all know they would pick us off one at a time after it on dawn raid,s and call it law.We have to win in the court,s first.atb Catcher 1

 

Too true, they would doubtless start with the easy pickings, celebrities, famous faces with strong views etc. Within the last week Clarissa Dickson Wright has pleaded guilty to attending a Hare coursing event and was awarded an absolute discharge when the case came to court.

 

So that was a good use of taxpayers money then, on a brighter note i see that in this countrymans weekly there is the news that senior tories are working with members of the countryside alliance and other organisations to ensure that a series of straightforward laws regarding good hunting practice can be implemented following a Conservative victory, so far it looks as if they will be as good as their word.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

i was Lucky enough to attend the Waterloo in the early seventies right thru to the last.

From the British field sports society to the CA. We were asked to give money for a fighting

fund as the anti threat got greater.I remember asking what it was for to pay the lobbyists if needed

etc, the money raised were did it go what happened to the BFSS funds , we sat back and let the lacs

take the moral high ground , they infiltrated the rspca they then changed there stance on Field sports

they got the TV on there side , they got the tabloids on there side , while the coursing club drank wine and ate volivonts, after the demise of the BFSS along came the CA, the war had been lost we marched

but still then banned coursing , to little to late , the sad thing is the majority of Joe public could not give a flying foooook but every year at altcar the antis got media coverage , and rammed it down the publics throats , now the CA SHOULD BE RUNNING A MEDIA CAMPAIGN, NOW TWELVE MONTHS BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION AND A MARCH ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON TO BRING LONDON TO A STANDSTILL , dream on eh

 

Would totaly agree GTE apart from one thing, never again will I march for the CA. The've had my time and my money.

It always should have been a media campaign but the CA were too dumb to realise this is the way to win over Jo public, as far as I can see it'd be too little too late now, that was a one window opportunity and we lost, big time!!

I hope the top brass 'boys' in the CA used that money wisley, climbing ladders in the gentlemens clubs in Londons Mayfair!!

we can hop skip and jump over eh