RicW 67 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 There have been a few threads started lately on killing spiders, bees and other creepy-crawlies. This whole idea bothers me a lot. It goes without saying that I, as a member if a hunting website, have no problems with killing - for good reason. The way I see it, there are four good reasons to kill. 1. Self defence, or, 2. To eat it, or, 3. To wear it, or 4. Because it threatens your own food supply. I'll get back to self-defence later, and look at the others first. 2. If you go out to kill a few rabbits for the pot, whether you use airgun, powder-burner, or dogs, that is totally acceptable. If you kill more than you need and sell the others for cash that you can use to buy food, no problem. 3. We don't wear much animal fur in this country now but do you want to blame an Inuit Eskimo for killing an Arctic fox to make a wrap to keep his baby warm? 4. Rabbits are very destructive of crops; foxes are hell on legs with poults or free-range chickens. Kill 'em. Back to self-defence. There are NO SPIDERS in the UK that can harm people. I once had a bedsit in a house with a big HGV4 driver in one of the other rooms. He was a right dodgy bstrd, mean as a very mean thing . . .I had to go into his room one night to get rid of a wolf spider. Dave stood 6' 3"in his boots, the spider was about 1 1/2 inches long. He was standing on the bed when I walked in. I guess I'm a bit of a sadist cos I picked it up and showed it to him. Random nests of bees in your garden are almost certain to be bumble-bees. Most of them are stingless, and even the stingers are VERY PEACEFUL. All they want to do is buzz around, pollinate clover, get their end away at the end of the season, and pass on their genes to the next generation. (Bit like me if truth be told). SO WHY KILL THEM? There have been posts on some of these threads detailing what fun it is to bury/burn/poison these harmless creatures. The fact that they are an essential part of the food chain seems to have escaped these dipshits. Albert Einstein pointed out that if all the bees in the world died out tomorrow the human race would die out 4 years later. He understated the case. If bees died out there would be no land-living vertebrate life left on the planet within 10 years. I have no qualms about killing for good reason but I hate loathe and despise mindless killers. RicW (having a rant) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,552 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Lay off the grog Swampy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Short answer to your post ... I agree. I do kill wasps and some spiders in the house from time to time, but only if I can't shoo them out. All the bees and other creepies that live outside can stay where they are far as I'm concerned (except for snails, those get pitched over the fence and far into the distance). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Short answer to your post ... I agree. I do kill wasps and some spiders in the house from time to time, but only if I can't shoo them out. All the bees and other creepies that live outside can stay where they are far as I'm concerned (except for snails, those get pitched over the fence and far into the distance). Ah well . . . the fun thing with snails is to use a catapult . . . Really pisses off the neighbours when some slimey fkr lands on the tea table at terminal velocity . . . Then you tell 'em that's what you get for voting Tory . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I agree with most of it but garden slugs have to get the salt treatment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest STORM CHASER Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I love bee's i think they are fasinating to watch...but my dog tries to eat them...anything that flys by her... she has already been stung be a wasp on her tongue... but she never learns.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 There's something satisfying about hearing the snails hit the road, I must admit. I pluck them off the house and pitch them over the fence. ... that's probably not very nice of me .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bubbleduck Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Random nests of bees in your garden are almost certain to be bumble-bees. Most of them are stingless, and even the stingers are VERY PEACEFUL. All they want to do is buzz around, pollinate clover, get their end away at the end of the season, and pass on their genes to the next generation. (Bit like me if truth be told). SO WHY KILL THEM? There have been posts on some of these threads detailing what fun it is to bury/burn/poison these harmless creatures. The fact that they are an essential part of the food chain seems to have escaped these dipshits. Albert Einstein pointed out that if all the bees in the world died out tomorrow the human race would die out 4 years later. He understated the case. If bees died out there would be no land-living vertebrate life left on the planet within 10 years. I have no qualms about killing for good reason but I hate loathe and despise mindless killers. RicW (having a rant) Great post, especially the last bit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I love bee's i think they are fasinating to watch...but my dog tries to eat them...anything that flys by her... she has already been stung be a wasp on her tongue... but she never learns.. They learn, trust me. My first Lhasa Apso once et a wasp. BAD MOVE. I had to give him some serious first aid, ice cubes on his tongue, anti-histamines, all kinda stuff. Ever after if I wanted him to pay attention I just had to go "Bzzzzzz". He'd be in his box faster than a rat up a drainpipe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arnieboy 93 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 There have been a few threads started lately on killing spiders, bees and other creepy-crawlies. This whole idea bothers me a lot. It goes without saying that I, as a member if a hunting website, have no problems with killing - for good reason. The way I see it, there are four good reasons to kill.1. Self defence, or, 2. To eat it, or, 3. To wear it, or 4. Because it threatens your own food supply. I'll get back to self-defence later, and look at the others first. 2. If you go out to kill a few rabbits for the pot, whether you use airgun, powder-burner, or dogs, that is totally acceptable. If you kill more than you need and sell the others for cash that you can use to buy food, no problem. 3. We don't wear much animal fur in this country now but do you want to blame an Inuit Eskimo for killing an Arctic fox to make a wrap to keep his baby warm? 4. Rabbits are very destructive of crops; foxes are hell on legs with poults or free-range chickens. Kill 'em. Back to self-defence. There are NO SPIDERS in the UK that can harm people. I once had a bedsit in a house with a big HGV4 driver in one of the other rooms. He was a right dodgy bstrd, mean as a very mean thing . . .I had to go into his room one night to get rid of a wolf spider. Dave stood 6' 3"in his boots, the spider was about 1 1/2 inches long. He was standing on the bed when I walked in. I guess I'm a bit of a sadist cos I picked it up and showed it to him. Random nests of bees in your garden are almost certain to be bumble-bees. Most of them are stingless, and even the stingers are VERY PEACEFUL. All they want to do is buzz around, pollinate clover, get their end away at the end of the season, and pass on their genes to the next generation. (Bit like me if truth be told). SO WHY KILL THEM? There have been posts on some of these threads detailing what fun it is to bury/burn/poison these harmless creatures. The fact that they are an essential part of the food chain seems to have escaped these dipshits. Albert Einstein pointed out that if all the bees in the world died out tomorrow the human race would die out 4 years later. He understated the case. If bees died out there would be no land-living vertebrate life left on the planet within 10 years. I have no qualms about killing for good reason but I hate loathe and despise mindless killers. RicW (having a rant) nice thread mate agree with you exept wasps instant death for them after bein stung by the little bast***s they drew 1st blood lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 There have been a few threads started lately on killing spiders, bees and other RicW (having a rant) nice thread mate agree with you exept wasps instant death for them after bein stung by the little bast***s they drew 1st blood lol I agree with you 100%. Wasps are a genuine threat and unless you know exactly what you are doing with them your best bet is to call in pest control, don't even think about messing with 'em yourself. You could easily wind up dead. Self-defence on this one! Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest STORM CHASER Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I love bee's i think they are fasinating to watch...but my dog tries to eat them...anything that flys by her... she has already been stung be a wasp on her tongue... but she never learns.. They learn, trust me. My first Lhasa Apso once et a wasp. BAD MOVE. I had to give him some serious first aid, ice cubes on his tongue, anti-histamines, all kinda stuff. Ever after if I wanted him to pay attention I just had to go "Bzzzzzz". He'd be in his box faster than a rat up a drainpipe. Then my dog is stupid then... because if it moves she will have it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher lass 9 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 my reasons to kill is for pest control and for the pot in that order!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I love bee's i think they are fasinating to watch...but my dog tries to eat them...anything that flys by her... she has already been stung be a wasp on her tongue... but she never learns.. They learn, trust me. My first Lhasa Apso once et a wasp. BAD MOVE. I had to give him some serious first aid, ice cubes on his tongue, anti-histamines, all kinda stuff. Ever after if I wanted him to pay attention I just had to go "Bzzzzzz". He'd be in his box faster than a rat up a drainpipe. Then my dog is stupid then... because if it moves she have it... Not stupid, just young and naive. My wee dog could catch flies on the wing, he LURVED eating spiders, but after he et this wabby he got dead leary about things that buzzed. Some learn the hard way . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 my reasons to kill is for pest control and for the pot in that order!! Zackly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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