kevin em 342 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) coilte don't want any hunting of wildlife in their forestrys..the only way around it is if you can prove you had permisson to hunt there before they owned the land dont coilte get payed off hunters for allowing them to shoot deer? coillte do get paid scent not only for deer stalkin but for game shootin aswell the game shootin of forestries used to be rented to the local gun clubs but coillte got even more greedy and auctioned it off to private syndicates lads dont under estimate them greens there scum they have some small laws already passed like the one on beagle packs they have to get a special licence to hunt in to march the nargc and the country side alliance should write to all members and tell them of the rally in naas its time to get off our arses and do somethin because its to late cryin when its banned Edited September 1, 2009 by kevin em Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 coilte don't want any hunting of wildlife in their forestrys..the only way around it is if you can prove you had permisson to hunt there before they owned the land dont coilte get payed off hunters for allowing them to shoot deer? coillte do get paid scent not only for deer stalkin but for game shootin aswell the game shootin of forestries used to be rented to the local gun clubs but coillte got even more greedy and auctioned it off to private syndicates lads dont under estimate them greens there scum they have some small laws already passed like the one on beagle packs they have to get a special licence to hunt in to march the nargc and the country side alliance should write to all members and tell them of the rally in naas its time to get off our arses and do somethin because its to late cryin when its banned i hope we all march in naas and show solidarity as you say kev its too late to start cying when its banned,the time to stand up for what we believe in is now Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I don't think it's as dramatic as it sounds. the bill is being drafted to stop puppy farming and get some money, hunting was to be excluded but like everything else, the government is trying to get in more cash so has included hunting now. It's not going to ban hunting or impact on it, but it'll cost more.As it is if you licence a pack you are open to inspection of the kennels little is going to chnage. Mass rallies and Marches achieved nothing in the UK, so why are the Irish hunting groups insistent on making the very same mistakes???? Hunting with dogs was banned but terriers got through?so did lurchers for some things. The question is how was that done? That what should be copied. Not Bullsh*t marches and rallies that did nothing but made people feel like they did something when in fact they did nothing. Bryan Quote Link to post
Countryboyo 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Mass rallies and Marches achieved nothing in the UK, so why are the Irish hunting groups insistent on making the very same mistakes???? Because Ireland is nothing like the uk Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Mass rallies and Marches achieved nothing in the UK, so why are the Irish hunting groups insistent on making the very same mistakes???? Because Ireland is nothing like the uk I think in some important ways you are wrong, especially when it comes to the representatives of hunting. Quote Link to post
kevin em 342 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I don't think it's as dramatic as it sounds. the bill is being drafted to stop puppy farming and get some money, hunting was to be excluded but like everything else, the government is trying to get in more cash so has included hunting now. It's not going to ban hunting or impact on it, but it'll cost more.As it is if you licence a pack you are open to inspection of the kennels little is going to chnage. Mass rallies and Marches achieved nothing in the UK, so why are the Irish hunting groups insistent on making the very same mistakes???? Hunting with dogs was banned but terriers got through?so did lurchers for some things. The question is how was that done? That what should be copied. Not Bullsh*t marches and rallies that did nothing but made people feel like they did something when in fact they did nothing. Bryan you might not think its dramatic bryan but a lot do lets hear a few of your ideas gormley is a snake fox hound packs were suppose to be exempt but not any more cop on man he is chippin away at the shell and soon he will be into the yolk Quote Link to post
judge 4 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 We will all just have stick together lads and we should be grand Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 you might not think its dramatic bryan but a lot do lets hear a few of your ideas gormley is a snake fox hound packs were suppose to be exempt but not any more cop on man he is chippin away at the shell and soon he will be into the yolk Gormley tried to ban stag hunting and ended up paying dearly for it. he delayed hare netting licences in his first year in office but found he couldn't and hasn't tried since. He hasn't given a March extension to hare hunting, but the NPWS brought that to the table. Two Sundays in March are no big loss( no one proposed a rally), you can still get out with hounds. NAMA will send the green party the way of the PD's with no effect on hunting. Bryan Quote Link to post
craigyboy 1,274 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 i hope to god you lads an lasses prove me wrong an manage to stop ireland going the same way as this shithole,to me the world is to full of irrational thinking people who actually think more of the animals in this world than they do of their own flesh and blood,but thats the way it is they dont want you killing animals buts its ok to go to iraq an kill men,women and children the worlds f****d up alright,if i had my way all the fluffy bunny brigade would get rounded up an given the lethal injection,but then thats why im not pm,i wish you lot atb and with any luck youl stop the ban and wel get it lifted Quote Link to post
shovel 160 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 To BRYAN yes Gormley failed with the ward union but he cost them alot of money and hardship in the prosess. He is making it harder every year for them to get their licence. I do hope ur right about NAMA and that they will drive Gormley back to the gutter where he belongs.. Its great to see great support from both sides of the water. And to johnny vegus i commend u on ur support and ur willingness to travel to stand beside us. If all people in country sports showed this determination as u do the likes of gormley would keep their daft beliefs to themselves. I Hope as many people as possible can turn up at Naas on the 17th of october. It might be only the start of a long campaign but im willing to do what it takes to protect our right to hunt and keep our underground soldiers working. atb shovel. Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Gormley had to pay the Ward Unions high court costs, a very expensive lesson for the minister and not the sort of sh*t to pull in a recession Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 This is to all the lads in Eire .....I never in my wildest dreams 10 ...20 years ago thought my way of life would make me into a criminal in the eyes of our current goverment I clearly remember you would see the odd article about hunting with dogs to be banned but most of Joe public the normal working class men and women thought it was only fox hunting that was to be banned and when they think about fox hunting they percieve it as a bunch of toffs rideing about the country side ripping every fox they come accross with a pack of blood thirsty dogs they did nt know there is more to fox hunting and whole communitys relly on the hunt .and they didnt realise that it would effect the normal working class lad mooching with his lurcher or terrier so niavely the supported it or just didnt care .And this ban is just around the corner for the lads accross the water so you need to fight it tooth and nail ....but some of the pics that are put up on here are doing your cause no favours at all .....fair enough you say its still legal in your country but these pics will be downloaded by the anti scum and used against you in there corrupt propeganda ......and who will be looking at these pics ?......The normal jo public or house wife and these are the people that are the large majority of voters ......All this macho fxk the ban that some lads spout they can craic on but see if there still saying that when there inside in a cell with Winston ....A BIT OF A FANTASY FOR WILF AND DARCY .....I done 90 moons inside and its not a nice place to be .... The point im trying to make is you lads need to be sensible nowadays and give the antis as little ammunition as possible .....more than likely lads will be thinking fuk that MOO we will do what we want ...fair enough but I dont see the point of advertiseing it ....hopefully hunting with dogs is not banned in the Emerald Isle ....but I can guarentee you 10 years ago nobody realy thought it would happen over here . All the very best in your fight against it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is killing me but i have to agree with MOO. As all Irish men do.Fight them for every inch.atb. Catcher 1 Quote Link to post
paddy31 120 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Mass rallies and Marches achieved nothing in the UK, so why are the Irish hunting groups insistent on making the very same mistakes???? Because Ireland is nothing like the uk I think in some important ways you are wrong, especially when it comes to the representatives of hunting. Bryan Ireland is a small country and a lot more rural than England in a lot of ways communities are a lot more tight nit so if we all stick together we should make a differance. Quote Link to post
burrowman 6 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Some very interesting facts there Bryan and i must confess to not knowing all of them. Its people like u we need in this fight to keep us aware of the sneaky moves those b--tard politicians make to bring these laws in. Hope u stay with us til the end. thanks Burrowman Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) I have to agree with Bryan, it's probably not to much to get excited about. The proposed bill is mainly to stop puppy farming. Gormless originally said he was making hunt clubs exempt from the bill but has since changed his mind and wants to include them. This is what has upset the MFHA. Whatever the liscence costs the hunts will pay them. But what about the lad who doesn't breed but like to keep a few bitches. You'll find that those inspecting will use common sense and can tell the difference between mass production and breeding a litter for your own use. As for all those who sit at their computers saying we have to fight for our sport, how many of you are members of the C.A. or the H.A.I. or even the N.A.R.G.C. ?????? How many support their local coursing club or point to point? We all love to head out cross country when we get the chance but as every year goes by it's becoming less and less of a God given right and the fact is the best way to fight for our sport is by putting our hands in our pockets. As for Gormless ? He's gone in the next election anyways. Edited September 2, 2009 by neil cooney Quote Link to post
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