travellers

[Countryboyo 0]

This roma blood you speak of does this mean you are not white like the Irish travellers? are ye the one genetic group or different to the white Irish traveller? I only ask because the gypsies that come from europe to Ireland are very dark compared to our travellers. Our travellers do look different to the settled Irish man in that they are typically broad of shoulder with larger heads and waivy hair. Just wondering if there is any link between the roma gypsy and irish traveller? Sounds like a good plan you have for this trip. all the best with it and enjoy...

[bigdan 11]

im am dark is well i dont know of all the irish roots but mine is romany gypsy probely from india or egypt it depends on what family your from

[Malt 379]

im am dark is well i dont know of all the irish roots but mine is romany gypsy probely from india or egypt it depends on what family your from

True mate, the Roma people were from India originally, and were mistaken for Egyptians when they first travelled into Europe. That's where the name 'Gypsy' comes from, isn't it?

(If what I've read is true...)

[Countryboyo 0]

im am dark is well i dont know of all the irish roots but mine is romany gypsy probely from india or egypt it depends on what family your from

 

Cheers pal I always wondered. Do ye ever inter-marry with the Irish white traveller?

[Countryboyo 0]

You ever hear this gypsy song? shes fair good

 

Johnny was born in a mansion down in the county of Clare

Rosie was born by a roadside somewhere in County Kildare

Destiny brought them together on the road to Killorglan

One day in her bright tasty shawl she was singing

And she stole his young heart away

for she sang...

 

cho: Meet me tonight by the campfire

Come with me over the hill.

Let us be married tomorrow

Please let me whisper 'I will'

What if the neighbours are talking

Who cares if your friends stop and stare

You'll be proud to be married to Rosie,

Who was reared on the roads of Kildare.

 

Think of the parents who reared you

Think of the family name

How can you marry a gypsy

Oh what a terrible shame

Parents and friends stop your pleading

Don't worry about my affair

For I've fallen in love with a gypsy

Who was reared on the roads of Kildare.

 

Johnny went down from his mansion

Just as the sun had gone down

Turning his back on his kinfolk

Likewise his dear native town

Facing the roads of old Ireland

With a gypsy he loved so sincere

When he came to the light of the campfire

These are the words he did hear:

[nightshiner 2]

bigdan you seem like a straight up guy and your lifestyle and way of life appeals to me i would love to spend time in your shoes just to belong in your life for a bit i think id stay there matey i wish yous all the best of luck and a safe and peacefull adventure rab. ps my case is packed give me a shout :friends:

[bigdan 11]

thank you nightshiner and yes some people inter marry my grandfather is half irish hes a darty he also married a irish women whilst still being married to my nan whos a stanley she didnt know so i got aunties and uncles who are dochaties sorry dont know how to spell it but im nearl 100 percent english romany

[Trev 4]

Its spelt Doherty Big dan.

Countryboyo, there are some travelling folk in ireland that still have that dark look about them, the powers would be one such family.

 

I was reared around travelling people all my life, know alot of the familys and still keep in contact with them regular, i used to do the fairs with them, ballinasloe etc etc we always had good crack and made good money lol.

[Wxm 1,638]

my nan has family with the surname Doherty from northan ireland could that mean she matbe realated or is it a common surname?

[Trev 4]

No its a fairly commen name mate.

[Countryboyo 0]

Its spelt Doherty Big dan.

Countryboyo, there are some travelling folk in ireland that still have that dark look about them, the powers would be one such family.

 

I was reared around travelling people all my life, know alot of the familys and still keep in contact with them regular, i used to do the fairs with them, ballinasloe etc etc we always had good crack and made good money lol.

 

Interesting. I just find it interesting that Irish travellers look different to the settled indigenous Irish. Im noth talking about clothing or fashion but actual physical apperance. I do recognise that the gene pool is very small in travellers. There are roughly 26,500 travellers living on the Island and as a general rule they only marry within this comunity meaning that over time they have all become related whether distant or close. To add to this they often marry cousins or second cousins again making the gene pool smaller. My guess is that this is the reason you can always tell a travelling person from a settled person in Ireland.

 

A facinating culture and fair play to the man that started this thread for trying to keep it alive. sorry if I went a bit off topic....

[WILF 46,816]

How can you say it's narrow minded? their way of life is to break the law.

 

They tresspass that's what they do, by their very nature and life style they break the law.

 

It's no different that saying it's narrow minded to be against burglers, car thiefs or any other type of criminal.

 

I had travellers last year, they attacked a member of my family, burned down one of our buildings and trashed another. It's the single worst experience of my life.

 

Sorry, but you've just shown yourself to be very ignorant.

 

Do you think so Malt?......I dont, its that lads own personal experience and opinion.......nothing ignorant about that mate.

There is a rather rose tinted image in all of this thread but I am sure that many decent folk exist within that community..........trouble is the line between earning a living and fecking people over has become blurred (as in many walks of life and different communitys)

 

I think what most travelling folk have to understand is that the only experience most people have of that way of life is when travellers turn up on the local green, stay for 3 weeks and leave shite all over the place along with a mini-crime wave.

The locals then get to pick up the bill and travellers all get tarred with the same brush.

 

JMHO

[Malt 379]

How can you say it's narrow minded? their way of life is to break the law.

 

They tresspass that's what they do, by their very nature and life style they break the law.

 

It's no different that saying it's narrow minded to be against burglers, car thiefs or any other type of criminal.

 

I had travellers last year, they attacked a member of my family, burned down one of our buildings and trashed another. It's the single worst experience of my life.

 

Sorry, but you've just shown yourself to be very ignorant.

 

Do you think so Malt?......I dont, its that lads own personal experience and opinion.......nothing ignorant about that mate.

There is a rather rose tinted image in all of this thread but I am sure that many decent folk exist within that community..........trouble is the line between earning a living and fecking people over has become blurred (as in many walks of life and different communitys)

 

I think what most travelling folk have to understand is that the only experience most people have of that way of life is when travellers turn up on the local green, stay for 3 weeks and leave shite all over the place along with a mini-crime wave.

The locals then get to pick up the bill and travellers all get tarred with the same brush.

 

JMHO

I personally know quite a few travellers Wilf, granted there's a few idiots amongst them, but no more so than in any other walk of life. I went to school with a group of gypsy girls & boys, and to this day they are amongst the few people I was in school with, that will stop and talk at length. They'll stop and ask me all about the family, and the next time I talk to them, they'll remember what I've said to them the last time.

 

I will say that the travellers I know all live on static, settled sites and keep themselves to themselves, so I can only speak from personal experience about the ones I know.

 

I can also say that I've worked with traveller blokes & women in the fields, on the refineries, and on the farms plucking turkeys. The local farmers have employed the local travellers for donkeys years, ever since a large number of them settled here after the war. I'd go as far as to say that they'd hire a traveller over a non traveller in some cases, because they know that they'll be hiring a good worker who's not scared of a bit of graft.

[artic 595]

Good luck lads, ive just said goodbye to two familys who pitched up for 4 days with thier wagons.

 

The paint work on these wagons was beautiful, and i brought some lovely hand made baskets and a pretty watering can too............

 

Their horses were in A1 condition, they had some lovely Dutch bantams, and 2 strong deerhound X's.

 

Their children were well spoken and had great manners. Lovely family's, true country folk.

 

They made a cracking cup of tea, and made me feel at home sharing our hunting knowledge by the fire.

 

Edited September 1, 2009 by artic

[poacher3161 1,766]

ITS true good and bad in everybody.Go on to the rotherham advertisers website and look at the pitch invasion story????????