macker 5 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 great post chalky its just things have been boiling up over here in ire a bit must be well over 30 dogs gone missing this summer with no aparrent trace which is why some people get a bit upset. can under stand what can happen on a which hunt of some one innocent but if its certain that aperson is a thief or at least knows out right that he has a stolen dog in his yard and is not helpful at all well how will this ever stop or will it ever stop this time last year i was at a show in ire talking to a terrier man who i tought knew a fair bit about the dogs and after a good chat with the man i asked him had what he had now he told me that he will never keep a working dog again i was surprised he had none .he then went on to tell me that it took him years to have seven working dogs in his yard and as soon as he did they all got stolen.these are some of the people getting out of the dogs while the dog thiefs will always be with us. macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 not my dog squint please god it does not happen to me but as or bad as they might be it would kill me.god knows the misus would want to move if she tought some one was was creeping around my yard. thanks anyway macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamestwo 0 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 name and shame but only if you know for deffinate their theives .not on earsay or rumours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 sorry but no one seemed to have a problem with the warrener well mods any way and just let the thread run which was right whats the difference here one rule for some and differerent for others and have seen names been tarred with mods giving helping hand and maybe it was right if you mods cant see there is anything totally wrong with this then delete me to sickens me macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy0211 2 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 the warrener bought a stolen dog and refused to give it back if im right? i couldnt be bothered to read through like 30 pages to find out if it was true or not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev 4 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Rolfe your post is a little to say the least contredicorary. You stated beforehand on another thread that the post naming and shaming a dog thief wasnt really the issue, it was the fact a genuine poster questioned your decision to take it down and then made a personal comment towards you, but now your saying that the dog thief thing is an issue. I wasnt on here for the warrener post so i cant comment but what i will say is, Kevin is a genuine dogman, his post was put up to help other genuine dog man, there is no issue in that for anyone as far as im concerned, the man wouldnt have done what he done if he hadnt got his facts straight. There a few people on here including myself that feel its wrong what has happened not just for Kevin but for all genuine dog men/women on this site. Now im only speaking for myself and nobody else and its not because Kevin is a friend either ive hunted with the man twice but i know were his loyalties are and i know why he posted what he posted. This is how strongly I feel about this: I dont know the whole story because i havent spoke to kevin in person, however i do no he would not post a mans name if he hadnt got the facts right, now ive been a member on here since the time it was moochers and i usually stay out of these things but this time i cant so i am going to name the person again for any of the irish lads who want to know, im not sure if it will be deleted or i will be deleted as a member but here goes: Now i know what needs to be done, lets hope others do to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rolfe 2 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 [ Rolfe your post is a little to say the least contredicorary. You stated beforehand on another thread that the post naming and shaming a dog thief wasnt really the issue, it was the fact a genuine poster questioned your decision to take it down and then made a personal comment towards you, but now your saying that the dog thief thing is an issue. I wasnt on here for the warrener post so i cant comment but what i will say is, Kevin is a genuine dogman, his post was put up to help other genuine dog man, there is no issue in that for anyone as far as im concerned, the man wouldnt have done what he done if he hadnt got his facts straight. There a few people on here including myself that feel its wrong what has happened not just for Kevin but for all genuine dog men/women on this site. Now im only speaking for myself and nobody else and its not because Kevin is a friend either ive hunted with the man twice but i know were his loyalties are and i know why he posted what he posted. This is how strongly I feel about this: I dont know the whole story because i havent spoke to kevin in person, however i do no he would not post a mans name if he hadnt got the facts right, now ive been a member on here since the time it was moochers and i usually stay out of these things but this time i cant so i am going to name the person again for any of the irish lads who want to know, im not sure if it will be deleted or i will be deleted as a member but here goes: David Barry from near Tullamore, Co.Offaly. Now i know what needs to be done, lets hope others do to. To put the record straight.......I have NEVER said that naming dog thieves is not an issue. Indeed i am trying to get a definitive answer.The accusation was that someone was removed for naming and shaming....which was NOT the case. So No contradiction at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev 4 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Well if thats the case i stand to be corrected and appoligise, however i still feel the same about the whole issue. It was a genuine post to help others it was nothing personel to named scum, had it been another person he would have done the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6868 0 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 well done trev and kevin m,i missed the first thread so didnt get the name, but its now saved to my hopefully ever growing list of scum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddy31 120 Posted August 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 The facts in this case are as follows a mate of ours had a number of dogs stole on him after a lot of digging we found out that the dogs were stole by pikeys in Limerick then after some time one of the bitches turned up in with this person (who I wont name for fear of being deleted)we found out where he lived and his phone number from there he was rang and said that he had not got the bitch.Then he rang the man that told us about where the bitch was and told him that he had done time and would get him kill for talking about him.So we decided to call to his house and see for our selfs but the bitch and you man were not there only his wife who was treathed with the up most respect.When we left the said person rang Kev m shouting down the phone and let it slip that he had the but was keeping it at another address and that he wanted €400 for her so he was told where to go after that Kev tryed all he could to get the bitch back but the lad wouldn't part so named and shamed him not that it was on the site long enough for any one to see it. P.s I think it was unfair that he be deleted just over calling some one a name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scent 509 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 The facts in this case are as follows a mate of ours had a number of dogs stole on him after a lot of digging we found out that the dogs were stole by pikeys in Limerickthen after some time one of the bitches turned up in with this person (who I wont name for fear of being deleted)we found out where he lived and his phone number from there he was rang and said that he had not got the bitch.Then he rang the man that told us about where the bitch was and told him that he had done time and would get him kill for talking about him.So we decided to call to his house and see for our selfs but the bitch and you man were not there only his wife who was treathed with the up most respect.When we left the said person rang Kev m shouting down the phone and let it slip that he had the but was keeping it at another address and that he wanted €400 for her so he was told where to go after that Kev tryed all he could to get the bitch back but the lad wouldn't part so named and shamed him not that it was on the site long enough for any one to see it. P.s I think it was unfair that he be deleted just over calling some one a name. cant get more fcuking evidence then that now rolfe and ye kicked him off for calling you a wanker...............a little childish if you ask me ,we have all been called names on here for fcuk sake take it on the chin its only someones opinion of you and we are all entitled to have an opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huntingkid 0 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 my lurcher mollie was stollen about a month ago as i was on holiday and my uncle was taking care of her and she was stole from the back yard and i had only had her a couple of month as i am new to this and was wanting to start up with lurchers so now i am looking for a new dog because of this so i agree to name and shame but if these dog thieves are stealing to sell how does the buyer know if there getting a stolen dog and i think it wouldnt be right to name and shame the buyer if he dosnt know he has a stollen dog if that is ok to say with the rest of you lurcher men out there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 thats a great question for a young lad fair play truth is its hard to tell and can be a easy mistake pups are definatly the way to go these days but if its a working dog you are after try find the history of it and weather he bred the dog or who bred it.i dont think its a bad idea buying of these sites or any add which has a pic of dog for the hole public to see these type lads usually know exactly where the dog comes from and less lightly to be taken but as with this case most travellers prefare lurchers and not terriers and questions have to be asked where they come from and to not give a shit about having a stolen dog in your yard and not give a shit when its known you have the dogs says alot and a decent dog man would be glad to give the dog back in good faith hope this is some help macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,253 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 The facts in this case are as follows a mate of ours had a number of dogs stole on him after a lot of digging we found out that the dogs were stole by pikeys in Limerickthen after some time one of the bitches turned up in with this person (who I wont name for fear of being deleted)we found out where he lived and his phone number from there he was rang and said that he had not got the bitch.Then he rang the man that told us about where the bitch was and told him that he had done time and would get him kill for talking about him.So we decided to call to his house and see for our selfs but the bitch and you man were not there only his wife who was treathed with the up most respect.When we left the said person rang Kev m shouting down the phone and let it slip that he had the but was keeping it at another address and that he wanted €400 for her so he was told where to go after that Kev tryed all he could to get the bitch back but the lad wouldn't part so named and shamed him not that it was on the site long enough for any one to see it. P.s I think it was unfair that he be deleted just over calling some one a name. Rolfe, can you not understand the bloke getting frustrated with you keep pulling his posts? Think the bloke should be given a bit of slack, but if banning and deleting floats yer boat, no more can be said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,253 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 If anyone has Kev M's email adress can you PM me it please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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