themadhatter 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) i was at edrd over the weekend it is definitely one to put in your diary, i will be there next year without a doubt,even if i have to walk. it was five times the size of last year and well done everyone for a good show, but the simulated coursing team well thats the worst judging i have seen they should of had gates up, but thanks for a good show and well done. Edited August 14, 2009 by themadhatter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cupid Stunt 18 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 i was at edrd over the weekend it is definitely one to put in your diary, i will be there next year without a doubt,even if i have to walk. it was five times the size of last year and well done everyone for a good show, but the simulated coursing team well thats the worst judging i have seen they should of had gates up, but thanks for a good show and well done. So the dumbest dog that follows the exact line the lure has run through gates wins Personally i think its a crock of shit & but if folk want to enter then they have to abide to the rule that the judges decision is final, end of Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themadhatter 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 i was at edrd over the weekend it is definitely one to put in your diary, i will be there next year without a doubt,even if i have to walk. it was five times the size of last year and well done everyone for a good show, but the simulated coursing team well thats the worst judging i have seen they should of had gates up, but thanks for a good show and well done. So the dumbest dog that follows the exact line the lure has run through gates wins Personally i think its a crock of shit & but if folk want to enter then they have to abide to the rule that the judges decision is final, end of Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themadhatter 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) i was at edrd over the weekend it is definitely one to put in your diary, i will be there next year without a doubt,even if i have to walk. it was five times the size of last year and well done everyone for a good show, but the simulated coursing team well thats the worst judging i have seen they should of had gates up, but thanks for a good show and well done. So the dumbest dog that follows the exact line the lure has run through gates wins Personally i think its a crock of shit & but if folk want to enter then they have to abide to the rule that the judges decision is final, end of well it is called simulated coursing for a reason and as you have quoted, the dumbest dog follows the exact line the lure has run through gates wins ( thats what it is all about ) but apart from that it is a bit of exercise for the dogs, and as we get closer to the end of the year my dog and my friends dog will get their fair share of rabbits of my permission , thanks for the reply and for curiosity have you ever tried it with your dog(s)??? Edited August 14, 2009 by themadhatter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parksie 2 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I watched a collie cross put itself in a perfect position between the wall and the lure, and because it didn't follow the line of the lure was deemed the loser Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrewdack 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) I am a bit cautious when adding to this topic as my dog won the simulated coursing at 'edrd', granted he won overall because the owner of the dog from the second card pulled out as her dog was suffering due to the heat and the time of the day...i did offer to run the final later in the day if she wished but she declined and was happy with a reserve place...and i was even happier with a first, as you could imagine lol......but back to topic!!! I only started racing my dog this year, didn't know if he was going to be any good but gave him a try and he won a couple of races as a pup and i decided i would do a few more as he tends not to do well in the shows...he is almost pure white lol Until we raced at edrd we had only ever raced him with teams that use the gates so this was a bit different....i found that the gate method was a more clear way of deciding which dog would go thruogh to the next round...no margin for interpritation!, your dog is either in more gates than your apponents dog and goes through or out more gates than your apponents dog and doesn't....lol BUT....as my dog won i am not likely to complain now am i I would like to add that i have a saluki x that i have tried a couple of times on simulated coursing and she always does well on her first run...based on the gate method...but is wise to the lure on her second run and gets knocked out due to missing the gates...so the none gate method would be good for her I am a bit dissappointed Cupid Stunt that you think my dog is dumb because he followed the lure...but that is your opinion mate! Racing is not what i have my dogs for and come the season my dogs and the dogs of the lads i run them with will do ME proud but i would never feel the need to brag and boast about them as what is good enough for me may not be good enough for someone else Edited August 14, 2009 by andrewdack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themadhatter 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I watched a collie cross put itself in a perfect position between the wall and the lure, and because it didn't follow the line of the lure was deemed the loser my dog followed the lure and took every bend as it should of and the dog what was in with me just cut across every gate by about 10 yards and beat my dog by about half a head, if there was gates like there should be on simulated coursing it would of been disqualified at the first gate, i am not bothered about getting beat that is the chance you take in racing, but dogs that are cutting across like that should be disqualified Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomflanflinger 24 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 if your dog was out with you on the fenns and a hare jumped up and lets just say you and your mates dog were loose .. both dogs put in a very good acount of them selfs but one dog stuck to hare like glue following every bend through the gaps in the hedge where ever the hare went ... but the other wiser dog cut across and stole the hare from under the other dogs nose ... would you then say thats not on ..the other dog should be disqualified . or is it just a better dog it is corsing after all thats what its all about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flynn 314 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 if your dog was out with you on the fenns and a hare jumped up and lets just say you and your mates dog were loose .. both dogs put in a very good acount of them selfs but one dog stuck to hare like glue following every bend through the gaps in the hedge where ever the hare went ... but the other wiser dog cut across and stole the hare from under the other dogs nose ... would you then say thats not on ..the other dog should be disqualified . or is it just a better dog it is corsing after all thats what its all about i dont think you can compare chasing a rag or bag................ LOL!!! Made i laff that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themadhatter 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 well if i was out coursing with my dogs the first thing i would do is have it on lead , and secondly i would not double my dog up on 1 hare if it was not good enough to kill it by itself on the vast expanse of the fenns it wouldn,t get kennel space, but i dont go for hares i do pest control on a few local farms and have been lucky enough to use my dog on there and thats enough for me thanks, and we are on about simulated coursing where certain things can be controlled but on the field it is always different as i am sure you will know. thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flynn 314 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 and for the record the dog would have missed the Gates in Lure Coursing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrewdack 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I think this is why it is better to have gates when doing simulated coursing, clear cut which dog is in which dog is out, no-one can shout favouratism for a certain dog that way...not that i am saying anyone did just incase anyone thinks i am...god you gotta be sooo carefull what you say I just wished I had known it was a no gated simulted course and i would have took my bitch as she very rarely makes the gates for going where she knows the lure is going next I would also like to say that i am not criticising the racing team at edrd, just giving my view based on my experiences with other ways of doing it!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomflanflinger 24 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 if your dog was out with you on the fenns and a hare jumped up and lets just say you and your mates dog were loose .. both dogs put in a very good acount of them selfs but one dog stuck to hare like glue following every bend through the gaps in the hedge where ever the hare went ... but the other wiser dog cut across and stole the hare from under the other dogs nose ... would you then say thats not on ..the other dog should be disqualified . or is it just a better dog it is corsing after all thats what its all about well if i was out coursing with my dogs the first thing i would do is have it on lead , and secondly i would not double my dog up on 1 hare if it was not good enough to kill it by itself on the vast expanse of the fenns it wouldn,t get kennel space, but i dont go for hares i do pest control on a few local farms and have been lucky enough to use my dog on there and thats enough for me thanks, and we are on about simulated coursing where certain things can be controlled but on the field it is always different as i am sure you will know. thanks i didn,t say thats how it should be done , i said lets just say ????? but whitch is the better dog the one that caught it or the one that ran it .. if i was out with my dogs they would be on a lead and it would be slipped single handed .... on rabbits but if your are simulating a course why have gates its only a bit of fun , no cash or quary involved . i would be more pissed if the other dog had stole the hare ,, if there ever was one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themadhatter 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 to tell the truth i would of rather watched the dog course the quarry everywhere it went, as some people will say it is the thrill of the chase that counts or would you rather kill everything that moves ??????????????. i have just come in from lamping with a few mates we took a dog each and killed 11 rabbits, not bad considering the dogs have just started back up and getting ready for the season to begin in full. we coursed about 25-30 rabbits and i thought that was an exellent night considering time of year ,but i can go with ferrets and kill 25-30 every time, but i would rather watch the dogs course, (what they were born to do ) but we must remember that we are on the subject of simulated coursing , we all have our own points of views on this topic and mine have been voiced, it doesn,t matter what comments or views you have it is your view and you are entitled to say them like anyone else is, and i appreciate that you have spent your time saying yours but no matter what is said we cannot change what has been done. thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
howard 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 i was at edrd over the weekend it is definitely one to put in your diary, i will be there next year without a doubt,even if i have to walk. it was five times the size of last year and well done everyone for a good show, but the simulated coursing team well thats the worst judging i have seen they should of had gates up, but thanks for a good show and well done. So the dumbest dog that follows the exact line the lure has run through gates wins Personally i think its a crock of shit & but if folk want to enter then they have to abide to the rule that the judges decision is final, end of May have the wrong end of the stick here but didnt you use to knock about with track racing dogs (whippets I think). Surely chasing stuff quarry or artificial is a case of instinct not inteligence the running cunning bit comes later with experiance JMHO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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