Shot size for geese

[danebrewer10 6]

Hi all, I went into the gunshop today (actually to buy a new shotgun ) and I asked for some goose loads (steel) as the season is close and there are(usually) some geese that like to come down and feed on the stubble of a friends small holding. Anyhow, he gave me some 3in Lyalvale steel cartridges loaded with 36g of no.3 shot. He seemed to think they would do the trick, what do you guys think? I probably won't be shooting at extreme ranges, I would have thought I'd have to limit myself to 25-30 yd max... any takers?

 

Cheers

DB10

[the Verminator 0]

they should do the job, but as you have said they dont have the range or killing power of lead. also the canada geese are vermin so you can shoot them now if you want

[moonflight 6]

they should do the job, but as you have said they dont have the range or killing power of lead. also the canada geese are vermin so you can shoot them now if you want

YES YOU CAN SHOOT CANADA GEESE NOW UNDER 'GENERAL LICIENCE' BUT SHOW RESTRAINT AND WAIT TILL THE 1'ST SEPTEMBER .

[markyboy 0]

DONT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH LAYLVALE SQEEBS THEY ARE AWFUL. THEY ARE THE WORST STEEL CARTRIDGES ON MARKET. ANY AMERICAN STEEL LIKE REMI I WOULD GO FOR. BUT IM AFRAID BRITTISH STEEL JUST ARE NO WHERE NEAR THE QUALITY THAN AMERICAN STEEL

[bobndog 0]

they should do the job, but as you have said they dont have the range or killing power of lead. also the canada geese are vermin so you can shoot them now if you want

YES YOU CAN SHOOT CANADA GEESE NOW UNDER 'GENERAL LICIENCE' BUT SHOW RESTRAINT AND WAIT TILL THE 1'ST SEPTEMBER .

 

Methinks not, under the General licence you can only kill Canada geese out of season to protect crops, what crops are you protecting at this time of year?

The Canada goose was first added to three general licences in England by DEFRA on 1st March 2005 as provided for by the Wildlife and Countryside Act, 1981. As of 1st January 2008 Natural England is responsible for the issuing of these licences for the following purposes only;

 

to prevent serious damage to livestock, foodstuffs for livestock, crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber, fisheries or inland waters.

to preserve public health or public safety.

air safety.

 

It is important to remember that these licences have clearly-defined terms and conditions. Anybody carrying out control of Canada geese under them may need to prove, if questioned by authorities, that they are fully in compliance with the terms and conditions. If they cannot do so they may be liable to prosecution.

 

Copies of the general licences can be found at

http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/conservat...genlicences.htm

[moonflight 6]

they should do the job, but as you have said they dont have the range or killing power of lead. also the canada geese are vermin so you can shoot them now if you want

YES YOU CAN SHOOT CANADA GEESE NOW UNDER 'GENERAL LICIENCE' BUT SHOW RESTRAINT AND WAIT TILL THE 1'ST SEPTEMBER .

 

Methinks not, under the General licence you can only kill Canada geese out of season to protect crops, what crops are you protecting at this time of year?

The Canada goose was first added to three general licences in England by DEFRA on 1st March 2005 as provided for by the Wildlife and Countryside Act, 1981. As of 1st January 2008 Natural England is responsible for the issuing of these licences for the following purposes only;

 

to prevent serious damage to livestock, foodstuffs for livestock, crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber, fisheries or inland waters.

to preserve public health or public safety.

air safety.

 

It is important to remember that these licences have clearly-defined terms and conditions. Anybody carrying out control of Canada geese under them may need to prove, if questioned by authorities, that they are fully in compliance with the terms and conditions. If they cannot do so they may be liable to prosecution.

 

Copies of the general licences can be found at

http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/conservat...genlicences.htm

I WAS SIMPILY POINTING OUT THAT YOU CAN KILL CANADA GEESE OUT OF SEASON .'GENERAL LICENCE'. MEANING THERE ARE CONDITION'S DONT SHOOT THEM LIKE VERMIN THAT WAS STATED IN THE OTHER POST.

Edited August 16, 2009 by moonflight

[danebrewer10 6]

hmmm I think I am with many shooters here in the fact that I don't really shoot enough pigeons to make a difference, and I think that most shooters shoot primarily for sport, the crop protection is a secondary thing and crop protection can only really be done in standing crops or on drilled seed beds protecting the emerging crops or the seeds so shooting them now is really only for sport? and I don't really think that public health/safety are factors in goose shooting

 

but I would wait 'til the season anyway..... though I hope they will stick around until then!!

 

anyhow I don't want to direct this thread down the rocky road of ethics.....

[Sterry 0]

Can i be the first to say that steel is really not as good as the other non toxic alternatives (in my opinon), have you had a look at Eley bismuth and Express hevi-shot. size 3 will do fine but with the alternatives named you could use even 4s for geese, with the steel i think the shot size is increased to keep what kinetic energy it has.

[danebrewer10 6]

Can i be the first to say that steel is really not as good as the other non toxic alternatives (in my opinon), have you had a look at Eley bismuth and Express hevi-shot. size 3 will do fine but with the alternatives named you could use even 4s for geese, with the steel i think the shot size is increased to keep what kinetic energy it has.

 

The only reason I got steel is because I don't really want to be paying the heinously exorbitant price for the hevishot type products or bismuth.... which last time i had a look was £25 for a box of 25 in 2 1/2 inch versus £6 for the 3" steel...

[Guest john5]

they should do the job, but as you have said they dont have the range or killing power of lead. also the canada geese are vermin so you can shoot them now if you want

 

 

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