ziggy1 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I all i,m new to the forum just wondering if you can help. I,m thinking of getting a 1/2 breed beardie/border X greyhound what do you think.I,ll be using it for large game. thanks Quote Link to post
maty j 6 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 from what ive read i would avoid him like the plauge, get them off someone who works there dogs not a puppy pedeler however theres a few people on these sites who have dogs off him and like them. Quote Link to post
Sorley x 32 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Welcome to the site. Boy oh Boy have you opened up a can of worms..... Be prepared to hear a lot of bad things said about the man. The important thing to remember that it is you how will make that dog, the breeding is a big factor but you will have a star dog if you put the time in. Hancock, breeds puppies that is what he does. So be aware of that, it means that his puppies don't get as much socialisation as puppies brought up by a family or occasional breeder. The longterm effects of this are disputable if you get your puupy at 8 weeks. (This paragragh will get shouted down but that is to be expected). Hancock breeds precise crosses, if you order a puppy from him you will knkow exactly what it will turn out like in terms of size and to some degree ability. As regards to crosses, if this is your first dog then a 1/2 cross can be quite demanding to train you might want to look at a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie. If you are looking to catch a lot of large rabbits then forget a 1/2 cross, it won't get near them in the daytime. Even a 3/4 bred will struggle. That said a 1/2 cross is a brilliant cross and has stamina to burn. I am not sure if he has a beardie/border stud dog at moment, phone him and check. If you are after a dog that will take pretty much anything then maybe a 3/8 5/8 will suit you. For sure you are going to get quite a few replies on here. I've had a hancock dog and he was brilliant, only faults he had were my mistakes in training. He was a gentle soul except when chasing something. Most people who have them are happy with them, Hancock sells a lot of dogs each year and some are bound to go to people who can't train them etc and they are the ones who will shout him down. It might not be any fault of their own Collie crosses just don't suit some people. Borders tend to be a bit full on and Beardies a bit reserved. the Cross between the two in My opinion is mustard. But horses for courses. If you want a collie cross get it as a puppy, collie crosses don't do well when passed around. Hope this helps you. Quote Link to post
ziggy1 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I,ve got a wippet X collie.Hes a great dog trained really well it will be his first season. Built is confidence up by shooting rabbits with my air rifle letting him get them. But i find that people put there dogs on too soon and shatter the dogs confidence. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I have seen 1 Hancock bred, Border / beardie greyhound cross work regularily and that dog was deadly. Fox, rabbit, hare, ect, magic at all. The owner trained it up very well though and the dog was demanding. Frank. Quote Link to post
Guest Top Chalker Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Welcome to the site. Boy oh Boy have you opened up a can of worms..... Be prepared to hear a lot of bad things said about the man. The important thing to remember that it is you how will make that dog, the breeding is a big factor but you will have a star dog if you put the time in. Hancock, breeds puppies that is what he does. So be aware of that, it means that his puppies don't get as much socialisation as puppies brought up by a family or occasional breeder. The longterm effects of this are disputable if you get your puupy at 8 weeks. (This paragragh will get shouted down but that is to be expected). Hancock breeds precise crosses, if you order a puppy from him you will knkow exactly what it will turn out like in terms of size and to some degree ability. As regards to crosses, if this is your first dog then a 1/2 cross can be quite demanding to train you might want to look at a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie. If you are looking to catch a lot of large rabbits then forget a 1/2 cross, it won't get near them in the daytime. Even a 3/4 bred will struggle. That said a 1/2 cross is a brilliant cross and has stamina to burn. I am not sure if he has a beardie/border stud dog at moment, phone him and check. If you are after a dog that will take pretty much anything then maybe a 3/8 5/8 will suit you. For sure you are going to get quite a few replies on here. I've had a hancock dog and he was brilliant, only faults he had were my mistakes in training. He was a gentle soul except when chasing something. Most people who have them are happy with them, Hancock sells a lot of dogs each year and some are bound to go to people who can't train them etc and they are the ones who will shout him down. It might not be any fault of their own Collie crosses just don't suit some people. Borders tend to be a bit full on and Beardies a bit reserved. the Cross between the two in My opinion is mustard. But horses for courses. If you want a collie cross get it as a puppy, collie crosses don't do well when passed around. Hope this helps you. This has to be the most senible post i have read on any forum, and correct Quote Link to post
ziggy1 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) what dog would you recommed Edited August 3, 2006 by ziggy1 Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) I did edit it to hid what ziggy1 wrote originally, but why should I? If people come on and ask stupid questions and say stupid things on a forum where anyone can register and view what we say (including Anti's, News Reporters, Police), then quite frankly they shouldnt be here. Edited August 4, 2006 by Rabbithunter Quote Link to post
Guest savageboy Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 yo matey , me and me mates pup,s are bred from hancock , a lot of people don,t like him , but who cares if they like him or not , now my pup is ace , and me mates is the same , if you check out some of me thread,s you will see loads of pictures , and i,ve put a few video,s up hope yer enjoy em . first yer no how yer dog,s bred , mine are border beadie put to a greyhound , which is 5/8 greyhound 3/8 collie. befor i brought mine i went on all the sites and asked the lads who had them and worked them and i got loads of good feed back you will get a lot of moaner,s but they do not have his pup,s so how can they comment , really they just hate the bloke which i can understand , but yer canna knock his dog,s because you don,t like him . and its how yer bring yer pup up , to get a cracking lurcher you must show him a lot of rabbits ,, which rabbits are not hard to catch , come on lads if yer have problems take up fishing , me mates merle is 1 month younger than mine, is coming on a treat , cracking pup. years ago a mate use to all ways be selling lurcher they swaP HANDS LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE , but they were not hancock dog,s so don,t be put off by some one who dunna like him his place is clean compared to his kitchen lol. so remember show yer dog loads of rabbit,s and he,ll make a cracking lurcher. cheers all the best which ever way yer go . cheers savageboy. p.s. minshaw lurcher,s caught loads of stuff with is lurcher,s they are well no for working hard and being exerlent dog,s yet there are people who slag is lines off, a lot of people hate people who have being sucessfull with ther breeding and al ways slag one and other off , why , get pup rear pup show rabbit,s catch rabbit,s what the problem , just enjoy yer pup and enjoy yer hunting cheers savageboy, the one who dunna give a f**k. Quote Link to post
ziggy1 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) I would reccomend deleting that before the Anti's and news reporters see it. thanks for that but what other words do you use Edited August 3, 2006 by ziggy1 Quote Link to post
Guest mush Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Welcome to the site. Boy oh Boy have you opened up a can of worms..... Be prepared to hear a lot of bad things said about the man. The important thing to remember that it is you how will make that dog, the breeding is a big factor but you will have a star dog if you put the time in. Hancock, breeds puppies that is what he does. So be aware of that, it means that his puppies don't get as much socialisation as puppies brought up by a family or occasional breeder. The longterm effects of this are disputable if you get your puupy at 8 weeks. (This paragragh will get shouted down but that is to be expected). Hancock breeds precise crosses, if you order a puppy from him you will knkow exactly what it will turn out like in terms of size and to some degree ability. As regards to crosses, if this is your first dog then a 1/2 cross can be quite demanding to train you might want to look at a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie. If you are looking to catch a lot of large rabbits then forget a 1/2 cross, it won't get near them in the daytime. Even a 3/4 bred will struggle. That said a 1/2 cross is a brilliant cross and has stamina to burn. I am not sure if he has a beardie/border stud dog at moment, phone him and check. If you are after a dog that will take pretty much anything then maybe a 3/8 5/8 will suit you. For sure you are going to get quite a few replies on here. I've had a hancock dog and he was brilliant, only faults he had were my mistakes in training. He was a gentle soul except when chasing something. Most people who have them are happy with them, Hancock sells a lot of dogs each year and some are bound to go to people who can't train them etc and they are the ones who will shout him down. It might not be any fault of their own Collie crosses just don't suit some people. Borders tend to be a bit full on and Beardies a bit reserved. the Cross between the two in My opinion is mustard. But horses for courses. If you want a collie cross get it as a puppy, collie crosses don't do well when passed around. Hope this helps you. This has to be the most senible post i have read on any forum, and correct Agree good post Sorley x Quote Link to post
Guest savageboy Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Welcome to the site. Boy oh Boy have you opened up a can of worms..... Be prepared to hear a lot of bad things said about the man. The important thing to remember that it is you how will make that dog, the breeding is a big factor but you will have a star dog if you put the time in. Hancock, breeds puppies that is what he does. So be aware of that, it means that his puppies don't get as much socialisation as puppies brought up by a family or occasional breeder. The longterm effects of this are disputable if you get your puupy at 8 weeks. (This paragragh will get shouted down but that is to be expected). Hancock breeds precise crosses, if you order a puppy from him you will knkow exactly what it will turn out like in terms of size and to some degree ability. As regards to crosses, if this is your first dog then a 1/2 cross can be quite demanding to train you might want to look at a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie. If you are looking to catch a lot of large rabbits then forget a 1/2 cross, it won't get near them in the daytime. Even a 3/4 bred will struggle. That said a 1/2 cross is a brilliant cross and has stamina to burn. I am not sure if he has a beardie/border stud dog at moment, phone him and check. If you are after a dog that will take pretty much anything then maybe a 3/8 5/8 will suit you. For sure you are going to get quite a few replies on here. I've had a hancock dog and he was brilliant, only faults he had were my mistakes in training. He was a gentle soul except when chasing something. Most people who have them are happy with them, Hancock sells a lot of dogs each year and some are bound to go to people who can't train them etc and they are the ones who will shout him down. It might not be any fault of their own Collie crosses just don't suit some people. Borders tend to be a bit full on and Beardies a bit reserved. the Cross between the two in My opinion is mustard. But horses for courses. If you want a collie cross get it as a puppy, collie crosses don't do well when passed around. Hope this helps you. This has to be the most senible post i have read on any forum, and correct Agree good post Sorley x exerlent matey, cheers savageboy Quote Link to post
robinmcleod2 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 ive got a blue mearl collie greyhound of hancock its brilliant stands at 23 inches catches all sorts shes a 1/8 border 1/8 beady 3/4 greyhound Quote Link to post
logman 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Welcome to the site. Boy oh Boy have you opened up a can of worms..... Be prepared to hear a lot of bad things said about the man. The important thing to remember that it is you how will make that dog, the breeding is a big factor but you will have a star dog if you put the time in. Hancock, breeds puppies that is what he does. So be aware of that, it means that his puppies don't get as much socialisation as puppies brought up by a family or occasional breeder. The longterm effects of this are disputable if you get your puupy at 8 weeks. (This paragragh will get shouted down but that is to be expected). Hancock breeds precise crosses, if you order a puppy from him you will knkow exactly what it will turn out like in terms of size and to some degree ability. As regards to crosses, if this is your first dog then a 1/2 cross can be quite demanding to train you might want to look at a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie. If you are looking to catch a lot of large rabbits then forget a 1/2 cross, it won't get near them in the daytime. Even a 3/4 bred will struggle. That said a 1/2 cross is a brilliant cross and has stamina to burn. I am not sure if he has a beardie/border stud dog at moment, phone him and check. If you are after a dog that will take pretty much anything then maybe a 3/8 5/8 will suit you. For sure you are going to get quite a few replies on here. I've had a hancock dog and he was brilliant, only faults he had were my mistakes in training. He was a gentle soul except when chasing something. Most people who have them are happy with them, Hancock sells a lot of dogs each year and some are bound to go to people who can't train them etc and they are the ones who will shout him down. It might not be any fault of their own Collie crosses just don't suit some people. Borders tend to be a bit full on and Beardies a bit reserved. the Cross between the two in My opinion is mustard. But horses for courses. If you want a collie cross get it as a puppy, collie crosses don't do well when passed around. Hope this helps you. This has to be the most senible post i have read on any forum, and correct Ill second that mate,a lot of sense their, obviously from expierience too and not books Quote Link to post
ziggy1 0 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 ive got a blue mearl collie greyhound of hancock its brilliant stands at 23 inches catches all sorts shes a 1/8 border 1/8 beady 3/4 greyhound Have you got any pics sounds like a nice dog Quote Link to post
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