carrying a knife

[LDR 29]

You know me LDR, I'm a hard ass :laugh:

 

I'm not a citizen, I wouldn't want to jeaprodise my status in the UK. Plus I've got three small kids to be responsible for .... if I'm going to get into trouble I don't want it to be weapon related if you get what I mean

 

Thanks for the advice Camo, I shall have a look for something more suitable then.

 

Not that I plan on getting stopped for any reason, mind you. After all, I'm a Very Good Girl.

 

 

 

Must be womans logic.............we're all desperate to leave the country and you actually choose to be in this shit tip.........................

[SEAN3513 7]

have posted this before............hope it helps

 

 

The Criminal Justice Act (1988) says that you may carry a knife with a blade length of 3.0" or less so long as it is capable of folding. That means no fixed blade knives. But, think about it - a knife has no place at a football match, in a pub, nightclub or school and becomes an offensive weapon in these circumstances in just the same way as a screwdriver, or any other innanimate tool.

 

But I NEED a Bigger Knife ...

If you wish to carry a larger knife then you must have 'reasonable cause'. That means that you must be able to prove that you had a genuine reason for carrying the knife.

 

You may carry a larger cutting tool if it is associated with your work (for instance a chef may carry a 9.0" butchers knife roll to and from work), or if it is associated with your sport, (for instance a fisherman may carry a 6.0" fillet knife, or a hunter may carry a 6.0" fixed blade hunting knife).

 

Don't forget it's there though. If you stop off in Tesco's for a can of beans on your way home take the knife off of your belt and lock it in your glove box, or your local Bobby will be unimpressed at your excuses. When transporting a knife by car keep it locked away in the glove box or securely stored in the boot of the vehicle. Do not slip it into the door side-pocket, under your seat or in a centre console, this is a dangerous practice, and if stopped by the Police this gives the impression of keeping the knife close to hand.

 

Don't Give The Police A Hard Time ...

Ensure that you comply fully with the law. The Police take breaches of knife law very seriously, you really don't want to be caught on the wrong side, it's just not worth it.

 

link below for 1997 knives act

 

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1997/ukpga_19970021_en_1

 

 

cheers

 

sean

[lurchergrrl 1,441]

So my knife is ok then? It folds up ... it's what I would've called a lock blade back home, don't know if things are different here. It's got a sort of button bit under the blade that you push to fold the blade back into the handle.

 

And yes LDR I chose this beautiful country of yours. If you don't like it then feck off out and leave it to those of us who appreciate it.

 

:laugh:

[SEAN3513 7]

its ok LG aslong as you have "just cause" to carry it.

 

maybe cutting bail strings, hunting, fishing etc...........but the police may find any reason an excuse.......so you may need evidence to back it up.

 

knife law is a very grey area and open for interpretation on both sides.

 

cheers

 

sean

[billy the kid 1984 1]

how about this then a mate of mine was coming home from his horses and was stopped by the plod, he,s not a youngster, definately no thug, they said it was just routine, like they do, when he was searched they found a knife on him, he was told in no uncertain terms that he could,nt carry a knife in a public place for what ever reason,he got a fine and was given 150hrs community service, and was told by the beak, he should have left the knife up the field, for what reason so some arse could find it and use it on someone, as for being in apublic place well, if you can call where he lives public, in the middle of nowhere, seems like the filth have nothing better to do and want to waste public money, i could understand if this bloke was a mugger or a thief, when he asked them why he,d been stopped they said just routine, and for feks sake he was walking.

me and my 15 yr ol bro was lamping and notice there was a police helicopter hovering above us.knowing it was for us we walked back to my motor.the helicopter followed us back.as we got back to the car we see loads of police around the car with torches,we climbed through the fence i told the police that i was lamping.they didnt say any thing just took our names and gave us a patt down my bro had a very sharp lock knife,they just had a look and gave it back!!! after they finished we got back in the fields and went lamping!!!!!

[LDR 29]

So my knife is ok then? It folds up ... it's what I would've called a lock blade back home, don't know if things are different here. It's got a sort of button bit under the blade that you push to fold the blade back into the handle.

 

And yes LDR I chose this beautiful country of yours. If you don't like it then feck off out and leave it to those of us who appreciate it.

 

:laugh:

 

 

 

Its only beautiful cos i live here......................

[poacher3161 1,766]

This country is becoming more and more of a joke day by day week by week year in year out.How does the law stand on sihks carrying ceramonial swords and the like????????

[runforyourlife 361]

Its nothing to do with the country, i agree on knife and gun laws. If they didnt have them every f*****g idiot would be carrying them, think what your saying, and stay keep it within reason....

 

A cpl of months ago, a pal of mine who is also on the forum and myself got nicked for walking on land we werent surpost to! Even tho we were on public footpaths. Thats another story. We were photographed by our van , and searched. I had a knife in my pocket and a rabbit carrier.... They didnt do me for the knife but put on the charge sheet.... Acting suspicious around fam buildings!!! And, going equipped!!! That was the knife, a 3" blade lock knife..... say no more.

[desertdog 149]

it really gives me the chad, he had a reasonable excuse, the bloke is a tree surgeon and always has one in his overalls in case he gets tangled up and has to cut himself out, and needs it to cut bales to feed his nags, but captain beaky said no, and it was a swiss folder, dont have go at plod?, get it sorted they have nothing better to do, kids getting killed, women getting raped, peoples houses been burgled, you never see one when you need them, my little girl nearly got knocked over two weeks ago, the b,stard was drunk in charge of the car, it took two coppers 3/4 of an hour to get there, the car was stolen, and the twat got clean away. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY.

[bobndog 0]

The Law on carrying knives is very simple;

 

CARRYING KNIVES

The British Association for Shooting and Conservation Ltd,

Marford Mill, Rossett, Wrexham LL12 0HL

Tel: 01244 573000 Fax: 01244 573013

 

The use and carrying of Knives

(Criminal Justice Act 1988 & Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006)

It is now ILLEGAL to have any sharply pointed or bladed instrument in your possession, in a

public place without good reason or lawful authority. (See below RE: folding pocket knives)

 

A public place is anywhere that the public has, or is permitted to have access to, even if they must

pay to do so. This not only covers areas such as roads and highways, shops, and pubs but also less

obvious areas. This is important to realise for those working or spending leisure time in the

countryside, as public footpaths or other rights of way come under the definition of a public place.

Estate land where the public may have access is also a public place even if it is privately owned.

 

Your car or other vehicle is also classed as a public place whilst on the highway, and the police

now have search and seize powers without warrant with respect to knives.

Good reason for carrying a knife may be shown by occupation as a farmer, estate manager,

recreational stalker, gameshooter, angler or anyone else who has reasonable grounds for expecting

to need a knife whilst pursuing a lawful activity.

 

Leaving a knife in the car, or in your pocket for when you next go shooting, or forgetting that it is

there, is NOT a defence.

Carrying a knife in public must be in connection with the activity for which it is needed; going into

a shop with a knife in your pocket if you are returning from or going to a place where you farm,

fish or shoot etc. would constitute good reason.

 

There is an exemption in law for folding pocket knives. These must have cutting edges of less than

three inches and blades which do not lock. However when pocket knives of this type are carried

for example in a nightclub, at a school or to a football match they are likely to be viewed as

offensive weapons even though the actual knife isn’t an offensive weapon in itself.

 

There is a further exemption for the carrying of knives as part of either a national costume (such as

the Scottish Skean Dhu) or as part of a religious obligation (the Sikh Kirpan).

Offences under Section 139 are trialable in both Magistrates’ and the Crown Court.

 

Penalties onconviction in the Magistrates’ Court are a maximum of six months imprisonment, a maximum fine

of £5,000 or both. In the Crown Court, penalties are a maximum of two years imprisonment, a

maximum fine of £5,000 or both.

[Richie10 345]

They are all too busy flying around in their helicopters, spying on peoples houses and people walking dogs, but the public think they are great!

 

Crime is nothing to do with knives, it's the people behind them.

[lurchergrrl 1,441]

it really gives me the chad, he had a reasonable excuse, the bloke is a tree surgeon and always has one in his overalls in case he gets tangled up and has to cut himself out, and needs it to cut bales to feed his nags, but captain beaky said no, and it was a swiss folder, dont have go at plod?, get it sorted they have nothing better to do, kids getting killed, women getting raped, peoples houses been burgled, you never see one when you need them, my little girl nearly got knocked over two weeks ago, the b,stard was drunk in charge of the car, it took two coppers 3/4 of an hour to get there, the car was stolen, and the twat got clean away. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY.

 

Hate to be the bringer of bad news but life is like that pretty much everywhere these days.

[bobndog 0]

If you are a member of BASC, I would suggest that you contact them immediately. If you are not, then this is an example of why everybody who owns a gun should be. In a public place a cap gun can be classed as a firearm, although unless you were threatening people with it, I think it unlikely that this will go any further.

[Guest lurchers&terriers]

i was out lamping with a few lads of here and as we were getting back to the car the police pulled up, they searched us and found my lock knife. i didn't know the laws on knife and cirtanly didn't know that in scotland you get a automatic sentence for carrying a knife, the copper just dropped it back in my pocket and told me not to carry a knife again. i think its because i was out lamping the he didn't arrest me. if it was a different pig i would have done a strech. the lads told me how lucky i was after.

[mushroom 13,391]

If you are a member of BASC, I would suggest that you contact them immediately. If you are not, then this is an example of why everybody who owns a gun should be. In a public place a cap gun can be classed as a firearm, although unless you were threatening people with it, I think it unlikely that this will go any further.

 

 

I have been training my dog with a starter pistol and long blanks on a public field. Someone complained (as they always do) luckiley though they complained at a parish council meeting and the lovely little old lady councillor with a filthy mouth who was telling me about it called the guy who complained a complete drama pr1ck :clapper: . I offered to attend the next meeting to explain that I wasn't doing anything wrong. Got home and made a phone call to the lancashire constab firearms dept, he confirmed that firing a bright orange pistol cap gun away from houses with a dog at heel and with several bright orange gundog training dummies being throw and retrieved constituted no risk to the public (he was laughing when he said this) and that I wasn't breaking any laws.... He did warn me though, that if the nosey old bugger had phoned the rozzers and mentioned the secret three letter word :secret: Gun :secret: they are obliged to pay an imediate visit with lots of big boys and bigger guns that fire and cycle faster than I can with a starter pistol

 

Crazy, I'm not breaking the law yet I could theoreticaly still get shot

Edited August 11, 2009 by mushroom