minshaw

[lucky 578]

right over the last couple of months i've heard a lot on here about minshaw lurchers and i've seen a few arguments stem from some of the threads. i've also seen some exellent pics of what must have been very good nights out but what i want to know is what exactly is a minshaw lurcher and what do they really exell at and please dont just say they exell at everything as i know i could probably spew such a wonder dog in less than a week .

are they just lurcher x lurher which were started by someone called minshaw or are there certain percentages of different breeds in there make up.

i also understand that there will be people out there with "minshaw" bred dogs that go back years but i reckon after all the recent pics and stories about them lately there will be a lot more so called minshaw dogs coming onto the scene .

these are genuine questions i'm asking and i'm not doubting what they are supposed to be capable of but whats made me bring this up is the fact that they are'nt very popular considering what they are supposed to be capable of ?

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Thanks for asking, Lucky! Only please don't think I have any answers. I'm probably as curious as you ~ just couldn't be arsed to think about it.

 

But That thread?! Jesus H. Christ!!! Has Anyone ever talked So Much about ANY sort of dog before???

 

And there's the rub. No way am I reading through over a thousand posts - I'm guessing maybe you have? - to try and find out! Maybe someone here can provide the basics?

 

Just to add; I don't remember ever even having Heard that name before. Ever! 'Smithfield'? That name caused a broo ha ha in the Shooting News about thirty years ago. 'Norfolk' was another one. There was some legendary guy who's dogs were said to be the 'nuts. Could that have been Mr Minshaw? Blowed if I know. But I too am curious as hell

[Rabbithunter 456]

Dogs originally bred by Victor Minshaw. Nobody knows exaclty whats in them, except for Vic himself.

[lucky 578]

right over the last couple of months i've heard a lot on here about minshaw lurchers and i've seen a few arguments stem from some of the threads. i've also seen some exellent pics of what must have been very good nights out but what i want to know is what exactly is a minshaw lurcher and what do they really exell at and please dont just say they exell at everything as i know i could probably spew such a wonder dog in less than a week .

are they just lurcher x lurher which were started by someone called minshaw or are there certain percentages of different breeds in there make up.

i also understand that there will be people out there with "minshaw" bred dogs that go back years but i reckon after all the recent pics and stories about them lately there will be a lot more so called minshaw dogs coming onto the scene .

these are genuine questions i'm asking and i'm not doubting what they are supposed to be capable of but whats made me bring this up is the fact that they are'nt very popular considering what they are supposed to be capable of ?

 

 

minshaw lurchers as farr as i no were bred by victor minshaw some 40years ago no one apart from vic his self knows whats in there makeup,i myself was introduced to the strain through a very good friend of mine,theyve always been bred by putting minshaw to minshaw i.elurcher to lurcher,and has for saying there isnt many about this reason is simply not everyone who has these dogs goes on the computer,were i live theres plenty knocking about,there capable of running alot of game in one night and they can do this night after night,alot of this stuff has been answered in the thread if you take time to read it then im sure alot more of your questions will be answered,and as for spewing such a lurcher in week im sure the same copuld be said for other types of lurcher doing what i do

 

this is'nt turning into an arguement allready is it ?

the computer has nothing to to with it does it ? i've been all over the country and i've never heard of anyone that has one let alone seen one.

and as for spewing imo any dog can chuck its tools in, some much easier than others though

[IanB 0]

right over the last couple of months i've heard a lot on here about minshaw lurchers and i've seen a few arguments stem from some of the threads. i've also seen some exellent pics of what must have been very good nights out but what i want to know is what exactly is a minshaw lurcher and what do they really exell at and please dont just say they exell at everything as i know i could probably spew such a wonder dog in less than a week .

are they just lurcher x lurher which were started by someone called minshaw or are there certain percentages of different breeds in there make up.

i also understand that there will be people out there with "minshaw" bred dogs that go back years but i reckon after all the recent pics and stories about them lately there will be a lot more so called minshaw dogs coming onto the scene .

these are genuine questions i'm asking and i'm not doubting what they are supposed to be capable of but whats made me bring this up is the fact that they are'nt very popular considering what they are supposed to be capable of ?

 

 

minshaw lurchers as farr as i no were bred by victor minshaw some 40years ago no one apart from vic his self knows whats in there makeup,i myself was introduced to the strain through a very good friend of mine,theyve always been bred by putting minshaw to minshaw i.elurcher to lurcher,and has for saying there isnt many about this reason is simply not everyone who has these dogs goes on the computer,were i live theres plenty knocking about,there capable of running alot of game in one night and they can do this night after night,alot of this stuff has been answered in the thread if you take time to read it then im sure alot more of your questions will be answered,and as for spewing such a lurcher in week im sure the same copuld be said for other types of lurcher doing what i do

 

this is'nt turning into an arguement allready is it ?

the computer has nothing to to with it does it ? i've been all over the country and i've never heard of anyone that has one let alone seen one.

and as for spewing imo any dog can chuck its tools in, some much easier than others though

 

Bit further north lucky and theres a few lads thats own them, they always used to pop up in the yellow trader mags over the years...get out and run some stuff with one of the members and see for yourself mate you might be pleasantly suprised what they can do...

[HBG 350]

time moves on this is a different era to when the minshaw lurcher was in its heyday,about 10/15 years ago nearly every dog man around my area owned a minshaw lurcher or a part minshaw bred dog, people get old things change in people's lives and not everyone does what they used to do.most of the hardcore lads as i would call them that used to go out with these dogs and catch big numbers have either moved onto different types of dogging(different quarry)and needed a different type of dog(bull xs came on the scene)or just packed the job in full stop, and there are'nt as many youngsters around the dog scene as there used to be.as for what there cabable of, there main attribute was stamina and bags of it,they could run night after night on big numbers,i dont think there would of been many out there that were out and out fox dogs but there would of been the odd one.i personly dont think victor knew what was in the breed but i never met the man,i think he fell lucky then carried it on with what he had stumbled across.this is just my opinion but the main man andy is the one to know about this breed.

[Guest barn]

went to buy a dog a bull greyhound he said it was minshaw bull greyhound x bull greyhound i think he was just trying to sound good with the names he was coming out

[J Darcy 5,871]

I think the big question is....: Does VM himself know how his dogs are bred?......

[IanB 0]

I think the big question is....: Does VM himself know how his dogs are bred?......

 

Bred to a million crossbreds who cares as long as they do the job...

[Guest alastair]

I think the big question is....: Does VM himself know how his dogs are bred?......

 

Bred to a million crossbreds who cares as long as they do the job...

 

spot on mate,could be bred to a camel as long as does the job,i know nothing about minshaws,but i expect vic only bred them if both dogs were 1st class workers,not like some folk who will put any lurchers together whether they anygood or not.

[dickyboy 1]

Where does hybrid vigour fit into this??

[Sorley x 32]

Hybrid vigour is from two strains or breeds crossing together F1 hybrid, the frist cross. After that it diminishes.

[samba 534]

HIS FIRST DOG HAD OLD RACING WHIPPET LINES IN THEM

SO PEOPLE SAY CROSSED WITH BULL AND COLLIE

BUT NOT SURE MYSELF BUT PEOPLE FROM CUMBRIA

WHERE HE LIVED WILL

BY THE WAY SEEN THESE DOGS RUN EXCELLENT DOGS AT NIGHT

[dickyboy 1]

but if people only breed minshaw to minshaw then surely this would be lost?? Is it important?

[Guest chilli]

I must admit iam not convinced by this minshaw myth , I think there just good lurcher x good lurcher . I think a lot of the people who have them are just good commited dogmen who put the hours into there dogs an get results because of it imho . I hazard a guess your dog you have of non minshaw breeding will serve you well andy an kill as much game . You never did answer me my question though .